4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Rodgers, Mahomes, Wilson, Hebert, Burrow, Allen, Watson are not going anywhere.

Outside of those guys I’d rather draft a QB 

Brady and ARod are in their last year or two. I wouldn’t swing like that. Carr is the possibility. But his coach really backed him on and off the field. That pretty much covers about all the guys that are better than Hurts. That’s where I’ve been stuck. We’ve really had no better option than Hurts. So we’ve had to embrace it. Watson was our best shot. He ditched. Plenty of fans hate him also because of his character. But they’ll still **** about Hurts…that has what seems like a pretty flawless character. I mean really. He took being benched like a man. Pretty much the best way you could possibly handle that situation. He didn’t go pout like a Wentz. Had a new coach like every year until now. I really enjoy rooting for Hurts. I want him to be better. But he’s everything people keep saying isn’t good enough. Second round pick that was benched and a backup. Had one of the most epic college seasons ever after that.  But didn’t get the Heisman. I mean he wins that award 9 out of 10 seasons. But he had Burrow that year. Then think on all he had to deal with during his rookie year. Wentz and Pedey were married to each other. Even shipped our SB winning QB out for him. You saw how Wentz was just being fake backing Hurts when he took his job. Think that tells you enough of how he was in practice and film study. Wentz folded. That guy still hasn’t even won a playoff game. Hurts going to get his this year. Then everybody can suck it. Maybe he won’t win a SB. But the little guy with the weak arm that’s black and was a backup in college won at the highest level. No stage to big for him. He’ll come through on one leg….you know he will. He just isn’t going to carry the team but so far. We need stud playmakers around him. Think we are getting there. If Sanders steps up…..oh boy! Or maybe we draft a RB high next year. Both could easily happen actually. We need some luck with health. Our top three weapons play 80 percent of the games and available at the end….we are dangerous. By that time Gannon should have the D hitting.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You pay Brady for a year to get a ring but no I don’t see Brady wanting to come to Philly to play. So point is moot. 
 

Realistically the option would probably be Murray(slightly better version then Hurts) can’t pass when it matters with far superior weapons,

Jimmy G/Mayfield both we could have now but don’t and possibly

Derek Carr and I like Carr but not enough to trade for don’t see him as the QB that puts you over the top 

Oh so Brady=automatic ring? I didnt know

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You pay Brady for a year to get a ring but no I don’t see Brady wanting to come to Philly to play. So point is moot. 
 

Realistically the option would probably be Murray(slightly better version then Hurts) can’t pass when it matters with far superior weapons,

Jimmy G/Mayfield both we could have now but don’t and possibly

Derek Carr and I like Carr but not enough to trade for don’t see him as the QB that puts you over the top 

IDK Raiders have stuck with Carr through alot. They could have lost him many times but didn't. Lots of turmoil on that team,so I think they do whatever to keep him there

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Oh so Brady=automatic ring? I didnt know

About as automatic as it gets in the nfl what has he been playing 22 years or something 10-11 SB 7 rings.

Nearly 50% of the time this man has played he ends up in the SB 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But didn’t get the Heisman. I mean he wins that award 9 out of 10 seasons

Love how you bash other players for there competition in college then go o hype up Hurts college season in the no D conference lmao 

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Brady and ARod are in their last year or two. I wouldn’t swing like that. Carr is the possibility. But his coach really backed him on and off the field. That pretty much covers about all the guys that are better than Hurts. That’s where I’ve been stuck. We’ve really had no better option than Hurts. So we’ve had to embrace it. Watson was our best shot. He ditched. Plenty of fans hate him also because of his character. But they’ll still **** about Hurts…that has what seems like a pretty flawless character. I mean really. He took being benched like a man. Pretty much the best way you could possibly handle that situation. He didn’t go pout like a Wentz. Had a new coach like every year until now. I really enjoy rooting for Hurts. I want him to be better. But he’s everything people keep saying isn’t good enough. Second round pick that was benched and a backup. Had one of the most epic college seasons ever after that.  But didn’t get the Heisman. I mean he wins that award 9 out of 10 seasons. But he had Burrow that year. Then think on all he had to deal with during his rookie year. Wentz and Pedey were married to each other. Even shipped our SB winning QB out for him. You saw how Wentz was just being fake backing Hurts when he took his job. Think that tells you enough of how he was in practice and film study. Wentz folded. That guy still hasn’t even won a playoff game. Hurts going to get his this year. Then everybody can suck it. Maybe he won’t win a SB. But the little guy with the weak arm that’s black and was a backup in college won at the highest level. No stage to big for him. He’ll come through on one leg….you know he will. He just isn’t going to carry the team but so far. We need stud playmakers around him. Think we are getting there. If Sanders steps up…..oh boy! Or maybe we draft a RB high next year. Both could easily happen actually. We need some luck with health. Our top three weapons play 80 percent of the games and available at the end….we are dangerous. By that time Gannon should have the D hitting.

last year Sanders did not score. Even 1 TD is an improvement for him,so I hope Hurts hands off at the GL and doesn't hog the TD's for himself,although a TD is  TD lol

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

About as automatic as it gets in the nfl what has he been playing 22 years or something 10-11 SB 7 rings.

Nearly 50% of the time this man has played he ends up in the SB 

Old man time gonna catch up,may even be this year. You wanna sign him the year the gas runs out?

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Love how you bash other players for there competition in college then go o hype up Hurts college season in the no D conference lmao 

Hurts had to transfer because he couldn't win the job lol

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Old man time gonna catch up,may even be this year. You wanna sign him the year the gas runs out?

They been saying this for like 10 years now about Brady lol 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Maybe he won’t win a SB

With the lineup Howie gave him even YOU would look good. 10-11 wins. I will not settle for less. Anything less is a FAIL

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

They been saying this for like 10 years now about Brady lol 

LMAO true that. Still nobody will sign him to a 4 year

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts going to get his this year.

Doubtful not the way he passes. Unless the D hard carrying him 

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But the little guy with the weak arm that’s black and was a backup in college won at the highest level. No stage to big for him.

Tebow has a playoff win a playoff win means nothing. 

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2023/consensus-big-board-2023?pos=QB   Even some ranked way D0WN THE LIST are supposedly poised to make it into the top of the draft,so IDK what Ham means by 2 QB's LOL

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He just isn’t going to carry the team but so far.

He don’t carrying the team anywhere that’s the problem he can elevate against competition he can’t pass…. We seen it vs every good team last year when our ground game couldn’t control the game Hurts couldn’t do anything the offense sucked cuz he COULD NOT PASS

Sanders missed 4 games last year. So in 12 games he had ZERO TD's. And this is our "star" RB???? Hurts needs to feed these guys AND the WR's we gave him which means he has to move totally out of character. We'll see if he can do that

I can be harsh unfair whatever but the point is accurate as a side his rookie year his 2nd year and now entering year 3 if Hurts can not take massive strides as a passer he won’t be here.

This team will not be a ground heavy team Lurie doesn’t want… We went that route last year because Hurts couldn’t pass we were limited and we got exposed vs good teams. The we didn’t have playmakers is the sorriest excuse as well dude had two players that should have had 1K receiving if he was better plus another that had 650 yards he had good enough weapons around him

This is not even mentioning the ground game that was successful even with him out the lineup. 

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Even shipped our SB winning QB out for him.

🤣🤣  OH he can be had again,go for it HAHAHAHAHAHA(oh my sides hurt) HAHAHAHAHA

At the end of the day Hurts isn’t just playing to be good enough he is playing to be the franchise QB. The FO is looking for a guy they are willing to pay because the reality is even on the cheap end Hurts will cost 35m does anyone really think he is worth that right now? On the high end he will be making north of 40+m

If you paying you QB that kind of money he damn sure has to be able to elevate the guys around him we are not going to be able pay the supporting cast like we are right now 

5 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Not looking to deep at the draft then are you…. Realistically this draft is poised to have 3 big names. And my favorite is neither Bama or Ohio at but the kid down in Miami. 
 

Outside of Of those 3 guys always come out of nowhere I mean Burrow he wasn’t a #1 overall guy until he broke out. 

Burrow wasn’t a number one guy until he shattered every record. That’s a pretty legit way to become a top pick….in my view.

20 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Hurts won't  be gone.  He won't suck...... the issue is if he is just so so vs of he is good enough to get paid.    You have said it yourself.. you expect 10 or 11 wins....and be honest, that isn't with Hurts even playing that well.  The schedule starts easy, so you can expect them to win, he isn't going to be replaced if they win.    

This is about Howie and Lurie feeling if Hurts is the long term answer.  Not about any fans focusing only on 2022 and " Shew"  possibly playing.     We don't matter and neither does " Shew"   Hurts, Lurie and Howie... that's the only 3 people that matter this year.

Goal is win the division. Team sport. Everything isn’t about one player. Going to assess every player and coach. Then make decisions going forward. Like every season should be.

https://www.nfl.com/news/next-gen-stats-top-10-nfl-deep-passers-of-2021-three-qbs-playing-for-new-teams-i   I want my QB on this list

20 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The reason the O clicked was the opponent.  

The offense they were running was pretty dumb. Supposedly catered things for Hurts. But when they stopped doing those things so much he thrived. Hmmmm. The pass pass pass playcalling was just dumb. Seemed like that wasn’t about winning at all. Felt like Rosie gave a mandate to test Hurts before the deadline and a Watson decision was possibly made. I mean the playcalling was just that bad. That it makes more sense that the GM was meddling and forcing the playcalls. I(and I thought most everybody) assumed we’d be a run heavy team from the get go. Reagor was coming off a flop of a rookie season. Smitty was highly touted….but how far can you really expect a rookie to carry you? Think he did what he could. Will continue to grow. But if your idea was pass pass pass with that WR room ….frankly you’re a moron. I’d say they were a bottom five unit(WR)in the league. Quez came on and took over for Reagor thank goodness. Running the ball was the clear cut strength of the team. Being physical was the identity. Let those huge Oline attack people. You can’t really be physical going backwards pass blocking nearly as much. Goedert is a strong blocker. Got Stoll going. He pretty much was just an extension of the Oline.

I mean Siri said his gameplan was basically to win a shootout against Dallas. That was a terrible gameplan. I could argue you could fire a guy for that.

20 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said:

Oh, I firmly believe the opponent had the highest degree of lending credibility to the O's success. I also believe though, that letting our superior OL go more run blocking also had a hand in this. 

Absolutely! Dickerson was rated as the worst pass blocking early on. But hey that guy attacking and he punished people. Mailata….see pancake clips. Lane had a tough season. Letting him attack worked. He’s big and strong. Let him maul.

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LOL yeah like the 57 Wilson rumors,so WHO is that guy??? Mayfield is a "vet starter",then again so is Shew. So who is available for this? I would rather draft my future 

Shew and Mayfield are downgrades. Why would you deliberately downgrade? I told you guys Wilson would never come here. Can’t exactly say who that guy will be. But I do feel a couple will shake free. Brady I don’t think is what we’d look for. Let the season play out. We’ll see which QBs get pissed off enough at their coach, GM, city….whatever. I don’t want to go the Wentz or Ryan route. That’s why I’ve been saying Hurts has been the best option we could have. Rosie clearly has looked into every player. If you can’t upgrade Hurts then he’s your guy. His first year starting he proved himself a starter level QB. I expect he improves this year. So the list of QBs better than him is a very exclusive list. So good luck getting Mahomes, Allen, Or the number one pick. We can win ….and win big with Hurts. He hasn’t earned fifty mil a year yet….that’s for sure. So we’ll let things play out. But you gotta build a team around him. Watch how much Smitty makes Hurts look better this year. AJ will make everybody look better. You want to blitz and press…..he’ll punish you for it. We just need Hurts to get him the ball. I believe there are tons of ways to win in the NFL. Everybody so caught up on having the best QB. Sure it would be nice. How many picks you willing to give up for this though? Still no guarantees. Hurts has set the bar on upgrading him pretty solid. I expect that bar to raise again this year. So basically you are only talking the elite QBs ahead of him.    Or he gets injured in TC 🤣

6 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Your delusional that’s why lol Mac Jones easily played better. Mills played on par that’s two guys there…. Easy to see Lance being better. 
 

Wilson I liked way more then hurts but the Jets could be his doom. Lawrence likely to be much better not dealing with the Meyer circus 🎪 

The reality is the bar is extremely low with how Hurts played last year below avg. passing isn’t going to cut it and no his ground game doesn’t offset it 

784 yards rushing with 10 TDs is a heck of a lot of offense. You are just Hurts hating. I think Mac had a good season. He dinked and dunked and maxed out his potential. He has an elite coach to help him. But yeah….I don’t see it as he had a better season. Wilson and Lawrence I think we all expect to be better than Hurts. But it hasn’t materialized. I’m sorry but proof is in the pudding. They gotta go get it done on the field. Lawrence spent all season checking down. Hurts checked down the least. Now Hurts has the legit WR room. Watch how his passing all the sudden looks much better. I think he will improve individually. But these young guys growing and adding AJ…makes a difference. You don’t or won’t see how Hurts elite rushing effects the game. It’s a big deal. DC have to account for it. So they gotta choose. If they overload on coverage…and leave massive room to run….then take it. The run should open up the pass. I’m totally fine with that.