3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Unless we are giving the HC GM duties no it doesn’t and Howie isn’t going anywhere yet so 

Depends really on if you trust your HC pick or not. We tried to let CHip do that,and got burned,thus Lurie would not concede that to Ped,and if that's the case,no coach will want to coach here

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Depends really on if you trust your HC pick or not. We tried to let CHip do that,and got burned,thus Lurie would not concede that to Ped,and if that's the case,no coach will want to coach here

I’m of the believe the coach shouldn’t have that power doesn’t work out generally... Only a few coaches handed that well like Belicheat.

Doug didn’t seem to want player personnel power he wanted more control over his staff and players(ie displining Wentz without fear of Howie/Lurie) stuff he should have been given 

I big on the idea of separation of powers and I think the Eagles do a TERRIBLE JOB of this.

GM(Howie)- let him build the best 90 man roster he can. This is drafting/FA/trades. Should be open communication between him and the coach to get guys that fits with the coaches staff but ultimately this is on the GM and FO to build the 90 man roster 

HC- Once we hit TC the coach takes over his job is to take that 90 man roster and get the best 53 guys that simple. 

NFL teams structured a bit different than regular biz. There are "fewer people". They key here the fewer the people you have the more responsiblities they(should have) SO let's look at this teams structure. Lurie is a figurehead. Although he owns the team he hires people to make the decisions so he can go to owners parties and do photo ops. In a regular biz,the would be called the President(that would be Howie in the biz sense) The presidents job is to make the owner look good. Under the president you have the VP(in this case also Howie) Their job is to make the president look good (but he is one in the same) VP's job is to keep the under managers doing their jobs(this is also Howie,so now he has all of of these jobs).The VP here would be the GM in a football sense. His job is to hire better under managers,or train them better to get the most return possible. So Howie has 3 jobs all of which are designed to make himself look good. Noone under him can call him out. Only Lurie can do that. it is this lack of accountability that is hurting this team. Under your GM  you may have a COO(corporate operations officer). This would be your coach. He should have little to do with "upper management" His job is more of a functional one. His main job is to incorporate the managers the GM hires. Of course he can make recos, but his basic job is to keep thing flowing smoothly. This is the backbone of your organization. The work horse,the guy that makes the gears move. So,this all comes to a halt when the COO(coach) cannot make things run smoothly because the GM is making bad employee decisions and giving you garbage to work with. So once again,for me,this all leads back to Howie. He has too many jobs and isn't doing them well enough. Which leads me back to calling Lurie "no balls". If he wants success he needs Howie to do ONE job, not 3. If Lurie and Howie are just in this for the entertainment value,you can bet it will stay that way and they can only dream about the next Lombardi. We need to stop with the empty suits and get roll up your sleeve types that can get those "dirty jobs" done. Otherwise it turns into showcase of stupidity,which is about where we are now. GImme nuts and bolts guys if you want to build a team. if you are happy polishing your Ferrari with no engine, then you aren't even going around the block

8 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I big on the idea of separation of powers and I think the Eagles do a TERRIBLE JOB of this.

GM(Howie)- let him build the best 90 man roster he can. This is drafting/FA/trades. Should be open communication between him and the coach to get guys that fits with the coaches staff but ultimately this is on the GM and FO to build the 90 man roster 

HC- Once we hit TC the coach takes over his job is to take that 90 man roster and get the best 53 guys that simple. 

Thats what I said in my essay HAHAHA. Howie needs to keep his nose out of things below his pay scale once he hires a coach

45 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’m more concerned with the interactions of the Fo with the staff.... Talent this team is dead isn’t he water lacking talent can purge lot of our cap concerns in 2021. Can’t go crazy in 22.

The big thing is 21 has to be bringing along young players we had some promising guys. From Wallace at S the UDFA CB Jacquet, Sweat.

On O Driscoll/Mailata hopefully get a serious look at Dillard. Can we get Reagor/Hightower/Watkins to take the next steps thought all 3 showed some promising flashes.

No doubt player development under Doug and his staff was a huge issue but that’s a lot of young players hoping to make that jump - a lot more than should be reasonably expected.  Hopefully the next staff gets the best out of their players and the roster isn’t as devoid of young talent as many think, but I still don’t see us being competitive for at least 2 years.  

10 minutes ago, time2rock said:

but I still don’t see us being competitive for at least 2 years.  

IDK, I think that all depends on golden boy. We can add people and get younger and lose the oldies,but really that will be immaterial if you don;t have a QB who can execute plays,or one who thinks they know a better play at the LOS. A HC and QB must be TIGHT and understand each other. So NOW we have to find a coach who loves Wentz at the expense of 52 other guys. I feel that is thinking backwards(but thats just me). If I formed a company,a janitor would not be my first hire

Howie F'd this all up by giving away too much before proof was had. Did Wentz hoist the Lombardi? Then why pay him like he did? Yes he helped get us there, but the fact remains he didn't win it. He was(maybe is) better than Foles, but no need to give him insane amounts of money for "helping get us there" I'm not buying a 12 pack of beer with 10 cans in it. I will pay you well enough,but Howie gave too many "guarantees" when nothing was guaranteed and there was no proof.Hopefully Wentz can  be fixed,but my god we paid TOP QB money for the WORST QB in the league and right now we have zero clue what next year brings,but we're gonna pay him anyway. Thats insanity and stupidity

29 minutes ago, time2rock said:

No doubt player development under Doug and his staff was a huge issue but that’s a lot of young players hoping to make that jump - a lot more than should be reasonably expected.  Hopefully the next staff gets the best out of their players and the roster isn’t as devoid of young talent as many think, but I still don’t see us being competitive for at least 2 years.  

This is a tough one for me. Ped had issues about play calls and bad clock management on one hand. On the other hand he took PS players and they did pretty well against other teams starters. They just didn't have the needed talent,but they still showed up an played. So I am torn on this point as to Ped being a good or bad coach. IDK if the next coach can do any better if all they had were PS and 3rd stringers. We let players loose that have played well. if those were Howies calls, I can't blame Ped. I think Howie needs to end being full of himself and do what's best for the team unless like I said, he is into polishing a no engine Ferrari because he likes the "shine"

Hate me if you want, but I still interview Jason Garrett(I did not say hire, I said INTERVIEW lol)  He is also good friends with Troy Aikman. I don't like Troy personally, but he could Help Wentz as QB coach and I'm sure both of those guys "know people" and could assemble some type of staff that works(in spite of Howie)

Mickey D(McDaniels) is in palm beach for his interview with us.... This is definitely an interesting one that I can’t see happening.

On one hand 100% believe Lurie would be a fan of McDaniels he is an innovative O mind on the flip side image Howie would not be a fan McDaniels would definitely want a certain level of power/control not saying he would want player personnel(not right away at least) but definitely wouldn’t want Howie in his way on staff decisions and disciplining players etc.(don’t think he would have any issues with Wentz).

Ultimately though the marriage of Howie and McDaniel I can’t see working would end in another power struggle.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hate me if you want, but I still interview Jason Garrett(I did not say hire, I said INTERVIEW lol)  He is also good friends with Troy Aikman. I don't like Troy personally, but he could Help Wentz as QB coach and I'm sure both of those guys "know people" and could assemble some type of staff that works(in spite of Howie)

We not getting Aikmen out the booth especially to be QB coach he would command more money then the HC lol 

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mickey D(McDaniels) is in palm beach for his interview with us.... This is definitely an interesting one that I can’t see happening.

On one hand 100% believe Lurie would be a fan of McDaniels he is an innovative O mind on the flip side image Howie would not be a fan McDaniels would definitely want a certain level of power/control not saying he would want player personnel(not right away at least) but definitely wouldn’t want Howie in his way on staff decisions and disciplining players etc.(don’t think he would have any issues with Wentz).

Ultimately though the marriage of Howie and McDaniel I can’t see working would end in another power struggle.

We not getting Aikmen out the booth especially to be QB coach he would command more money then the HC lol 

Not sure,they are big buddies like Gruden and Mayock. That's what the interview would tell me. At this point I try anything at all. It's not like we have anything to lose

Wade Phillips for DC??? IDK we need to start making decisions

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Wade Phillips for DC??? IDK we need to start making decisions

Would be switching to a 34 with Wade that’s what he runs. I actually think Phillips is a great DC but I wouldn’t hire anyone until we get our coach. But guess it will depend who the coach is.

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Wade Phillips for DC??? IDK we need to start making decisions

I could live with that

So yea Wentz isn’t going anywhere and sounds like he is likely going to be starting QB 

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

So yea Wentz isn’t going anywhere and sounds like he is likely going to be starting QB 

I mean... I think he does stay yes but I'm not sure this report necessarily confirms that. If the Eagles want to trade Wentz then they aren't going to want to announce that they have told HC candidates they can do what they want at the QB position. 

9 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

the Eagles want to trade Wentz then they aren't going to want to announce that they have told HC candidates they can do what they want at the QB position. 

Sure they not going to say they can do whatever but also don’t think they have to over emphasize the fact we want Carson back and to fix him...Paired with the reports that Doug wanted to go with Hurts and move from Wentz being part of the reason he was fired.

Case in point I’d say there is a good 95% chance Wentz is here not traded and the starter week 1 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Case in point I’d say there is a good 95% chance Wentz is here not traded and the starter week 1 

Unfortunately yes I agree I think it is very very likely he's still here and the starter. 

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Would be switching to a 34 with Wade that’s what he runs. I actually think Phillips is a great DC but I wouldn’t hire anyone until we get our coach. But guess it will depend who the coach is.

On the other side,perhaps a coach would wan to come here more if they knew we had WP at DC already??? Just saying it can work both ways. Right now I see nobody banging on the Novacare doors trying to get in

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

So yea Wentz isn’t going anywhere and sounds like he is likely going to be starting QB 

If was fixable,why didn't we fix him???? I will believe it when I see it 

10 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Sure they not going to say they can do whatever but also don’t think they have to over emphasize the fact we want Carson back and to fix him...Paired with the reports that Doug wanted to go with Hurts and move from Wentz being part of the reason he was fired.

Case in point I’d say there is a good 95% chance Wentz is here not traded and the starter week 1 

yeah because no team is going to give up what we need to bail on him when they can draft a rook QB and there are plenty in this draft with potential

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right now I see nobody banging on the Novacare doors trying to get in

I’m also not seeing coaches turn us down either when we asking for interviews I mean these coaches don’t have to accept them. We are not rushing a hire we didn’t rush the Doug hire it is what it is just the way Lurie does things have to accept it.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

yeah because no team is going to give up what we need to bail on him when they can draft a rook QB and there are plenty in this draft with potential

The Eagles could bail on him for anything that a decision they can make and as for the capital return I’d still say at the minimum with everything that reported he would still garner a 2nd rounder. 
 

So no I think if the Eagles brass wanted to move on from Wentz they could they are opting to keep him whether I agree with it or not isn’t my call I have no say but that how I see it at least 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’m also not seeing coaches turn us down either when we asking for interviews I mean these coaches don’t have to accept them. We are not rushing a hire we didn’t rush the Doug hire it is what it is just the way Lurie does things have to accept it.

Interviews are interviews, we have no clue what happens at those. If we had WP as DC, at least they have something to work with,but we will fart around until there is a choice of 2 people. Arthur didn't sign with ALT until AFTER we interviewd him. Obviously we made zero impression on him