10 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Could you elaborate on what he's shown this season that should be encouraging?

We can beat bad and mediocre teams so we can make a fools gold run at the playoffs where we get beat down by good teams and do nothing offensively. 

Eagles offense vs. playoff teams— 19 ppg (without all the meaningless garbage time tds 12.8 ppg) 

eagles offense vs. non playoff teams— 25 ppg (excludes jets and Dallas games he didn’t play and took out defensive tds). 

 

 

 

50 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Yep, put @Outlaw @Ray75 @HazletonEagle and myself in the war room, and this team has a top 10 roster in the NFL

Based on the consensus of who we wanted, our skill guys right now would be Kamara, DK and Jefferson.

 I'm still bitter we don't have Kamara all these years later.

They are not going to throw Hurts under the proverbial bus like the Colts did Wentz.

There is no downside to saying you are committing to Hurts at this point in time.

You can still go out and explore other options, no team is going to refuse to talk to you about a QB because you gave this answer.

44 minutes ago, RLC said:

Agree, but we could have taken a more aggressive approach.

- Blitz-more
- Play more-press man (which does fit all our CBs).
- More single high

Of course, that comes with risk. We choose the safe approach.

That sounds good, but...

As the season wore on we did blitz more.

If you're playing press-man, you better have safeties behind them who can run. We didn't.

As regards single-high, we went with more of that over time. Problem was, our single-high can't run anymore.

And our LBs were slow, meaning the safeties had more responsibilities in the middle of the field.

By way of contrast, look at the Bucs. When Hurts released the ball to Devonte in the end zone, the safety was at the numbers but he made the interception with room to spare. McLeod couldn't have done that. And think of all those wide plays we ran. Their LBs tracked them down because they're really fast. LaVonte David fast, not Alex Singleton slow.

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

I think he means it should encourage us to drink more. 

Sure, there are some things he had improved on over the course of the season. I'm genuinely curious what others are seeing that he's improved on.

The 2nd half of the season he did a better job of staying in the pocket and not running at the first sight of pressure. He did better not spinning around in the pocket and turning his back to the defense. He did a better job of playing within the structure of the offense. His number averages improved from last season, although very slightly and last season was a small sample size.

Those are some of the improvements I noticed over the course of the season, they were small improvements but improvements none the less. However, when it came to the wildcard game he reverted back to his natural habits of spinning around in the pocket, bailing on clean pockets, and playing sandlot football.

What do you think @Thrive?

 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

 

Sirianni was very clear what he thought about Reagor/JJAW. 

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Howie indirectly admitting that he lost course trying to address immediate needs in recent drafts.

Yeah, I've been saying that for a year, they had a post-SB hangover, I'm sure acerbated by coaches who kept telling Howie I need this or that. Schwartz didn't like rookies and was given a lot of personnel pull as a condition of his hiring - and that explains all the trades/signing of defensive players - which is good for winning now but not the long-run. Pederson lobbied for Reagor and I'll bet for extending Jeffries, etc.

Howie's a smart guy, he learns from his mistakes, I think the lesson he learned was don't deviate from BPA - every season is different, and what you think you need in June may be very different than December - plug holes with short-term patches, draft for talent..

I'm also convinced he'll get different advice from Sirianni and Gannon, instead of focusing on filling a hole, they'll be more focused on who they think they can coach up. I'm a strong believer you want HCs and coordinators who continue to "coach", once the HC and coordinators become the guys in the tall chair watching, they lose touch with what makes a team and players tick, and become a chess player moving pieces around. Spend too much time in the film room strategizing, and not enough with players, you don't have a feel for who fits and who can be developed. It's not an accident that we do best drafting OL than any other position - it's not just that Stoutland is great at coaching players, he's also good at recognizing who can be coached.

Sirianni is a big time players coach. He isn't going to say anything remotely negative about his players. It serves no purpose to say anything negative about them, if anything he should be talking them up.

7 minutes ago, justrelax said:

That sounds good, but...

As the season wore on we did blitz more.

If you're playing press-man, you better have safeties behind them who can run. We didn't.

As regards single-high, we went with more of that over time. Problem was, our single-high can't run anymore.

And our LBs were slow, meaning the safeties had more responsibilities in the middle of the field.

By way of contrast, look at the Bucs. When Hurts released the ball to Devonte in the end zone, the safety was at the numbers but he made the interception with room to spare. McLeod couldn't have done that. And think of all those wide plays we ran. Their LBs tracked them down because they're really fast. LaVonte David fast, not Alex Singleton slow.

Over the years, I've seen post after post about saying a coach needs to scheme to his players' strengths.

Well, they also need to scheme away from his players' weaknesses. 

Our linebackers and safeties were limited.  That impacted run fits, coverages, and pressure schemes.

You all pine for a DC that does what Jim Johnson did.  Give Gannon Dawkins, Q, Trotter, Vincent, Taylor, Asante, Lito, and Sheldon before you draw conclusions.

9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

 

 

 

 

🤮🤮🤮

1 minute ago, greendestiny27 said:

🤮🤮🤮

What do you want him to say in a presser? Jalen Hurts sucks donkey D, and Reagor and JJAW stink so bad they can't even catch Covid-19? That serves 0 purpose.

5 minutes ago, justrelax said:

By way of contrast, look at the Bucs. When Hurts released the ball to Devonte in the end zone, the safety was at the numbers but he made the interception with room to spare. McLeod couldn't have done that. And think of all those wide plays we ran. Their LBs tracked them down because they're really fast. LaVonte David fast, not Alex Singleton slow.

That raises an interesting point on Hurts' development, if you don't face those kinds of athletes in practice, how ready are you for them in games? You can look at film, but when you're trying to determine who is open, game speed is different and looks different - and TB probably has the fastest defense Hurts saw all year - which then causes you to hesitate. Hurts simply didn't face shutdown DBs (other than Slay, and his numbers also reflect the weakness of the rest of the pass defense), and he certainly didn't see a lot of speed.

Notice how many QBs struggled in their first PO game, it's a different game and a different atmosphere - especially if you're a mediocre team going against a top team. I wouldn't read too much into this game, and I doubt Howie and Sirianni do either - it's not that they're sold on Hurts, they're just not going to overreact to one game.

 

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The Brandon Brooks BS continues on into the offseason

Someone fell and he helped them up

and was incredibly humble about it. 

Just now, Outlaw said:

What do you want him to say in a presser? Jalen Hurts sucks donkey D, and Reagor and JJAW stink so bad they can't even catch Covid-19? That serves 0 purpose.

I know, it's just frustrating to hear. Reagor is a total bum

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

and TB probably has the fastest defense Hurts saw all year - which then causes you to hesitate.

Fastest defense he had seen all year, except for the TB defense he faced earlier in the year 🤡🌏

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 I have no disagreement with you on Schwartz  and Fangio would be better.

I do. Schwartz had the same cupcake schedule of weak QBs last season as Gannon had this season. And the personnel were similar.

Yet Gannon's defense clearly outperformed Schwartz's defense by a substantial margin.

14 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

 I'm still bitter we don't have Kamara all these years later.

I wouldn't change a thing before 2/4/2018. 

9 minutes ago, austinfan said:

That raises an interesting point on Hurts' development, if you don't face those kinds of athletes in practice, how ready are you for them in games? You can look at film, but when you're trying to determine who is open, game speed is different and looks different - and TB probably has the fastest defense Hurts saw all year - which then causes you to hesitate. Hurts simply didn't face shutdown DBs (other than Slay, and his numbers also reflect the weakness of the rest of the pass defense), and he certainly didn't see a lot of speed.

Notice how many QBs struggled in their first PO game, it's a different game and a different atmosphere - especially if you're a mediocre team going against a top team. I wouldn't read too much into this game, and I doubt Howie and Sirianni do either - it's not that they're sold on Hurts, they're just not going to overreact to one game.

He was not good against playoff teams in the regular season. This was not just a playoff game thing. he wasn’t good playoff caliber teams. you want me to give you the stats from playoff teams he faced during the regular season. Here’s what the numbers were

They scored 19.8 ppg in the regular season against playoff teams. That includes a bunch of garbage time touchdowns like When they were down 41-14 to Dallas with 3 mins to go and scoring a td. Or a td with less than 30 seconds against the chiefs down 19 points. Or down 19 points to the raiders and scoring a td with just under 4 mins to go and the game was decided. When you take all those hallow tds away it’s down to 15.4 ppg. 

You can keep playing this is his first playoff game is always hard and rough. However they look bad against playoff teams all Fing year. It wasn’t just a Defense that sucked in those games. the offense besides the Chiefs game wasn’t good for a large majority of those games. It could just be he’s not good against good teams and neither was the offense. 

22 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Howie indirectly admitting that he lost course trying to address immediate needs in recent drafts.

 

 

As much as I hate Howie, I actually like that answer.  Roseman is finally admitting that he reached on some draft picks and made some mistakes thinking they were closer than they were.  Like trying to find a replacement for Jeffrey which led us to drafting a similar skillset player in JJAW.  Or, when we needed someone to stretch the field instead of choosing the best WR, which led us to Reagor instead of Jefferson. 

Hopefully, he has learned from his mistakes and drafts like he did last year just focusing on good players who fit the scheme instead of reaching to fill a hole.   

We're so going edge rusher, OL, and trade out in the 1st this year.

32 minutes ago, downundermike said:

There is nothing about what Hurts did this year that should encourage anyone.

Before Detroit - 10 TD's, 4 interceptions, 61.16 completion percentage

After Detroit, 6 TD's, 4 interceptions, 61.36 completion percentage.  This was against the bottom feeders of the NFL, and more interceptions on 68 less passing attempts.

Howie and Nick are saying exactly what they should say today, but if you think they are not looking at every QB option,  you are kidding yourself. 

I’m not biting.