315Eagles Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Lots of foul calls in this Heat-Celtics game...jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 hour ago, 315Eagles said: Half their SBs, it wasn't necessarily Brady that won it for them. The defense was a big reason they won the first 3 SBs. Brady can also thank Butler for making one of the biggest interceptions in SB history to win a ring. Their last SB win the defense shut down the Rams. Obviously I'm not downplaying Bradys contributions to NE 6 championships but Belichick and the defense had alot to do with winning those rings too. Also, that new team Brady walked into and won a ring was also a stacked team that just needed a QB. Belichick issue right now is he isn't getting enough talent on offense, similar to the Eagles the last couple years. I think both Brady and Belichick should get equal praise as both are great in their own ways. It's extremely doubtful that we will see a 20 year run like we did from the Pats. There is no way the Patriots win any of those Super Bowls without Brady, but I can think of a lot of teams that probably would have won a super bowl if they had Brady instead of their own QB. I think BB is really overrated. Even if we take the cheating out of the equation — and for me that forever tarnished his legacy — he still doesn’t do much of anything without Brady. AR is a flat out better coach in my estimation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said: Possibly, but that doesn’t change the greatness vs team narrative. What if he was a Lion? Tom Brady throwing to Megatron? They’re in the playoffs every year and he probably changes the culture significantly. Is that enough to win a ring? Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315Eagles Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, TEW said: There is no way the Patriots win any of those Super Bowls without Brady, but I can think of a lot of teams that probably would have won a super bowl if they had Brady instead of their own QB. I think BB is really overrated. Even if we take the cheating out of the equation — and for me that forever tarnished his legacy — he still doesn’t do much of anything without Brady. AR is a flat out better coach in my estimation. Belichick is considered the greatest coach of all time. Their success certainly wasn't all Brady. Bill had a hand in that as well. It's alot easier for Brady to leave and go to a really good team that was just missing a QB and be successful then it is for Belichick and the Pats who have to find another QB and essentially rebuild the team, especially the offense. Can't really do that over night. I'll always have respect for Reid but if you're telling me who's a better HC assuming both have good-great QBs and good players around them, give me BB all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, TEW said: Tom Brady throwing to Megatron? They’re in the playoffs every year and he probably changes the culture significantly. Is that enough to win a ring? Maybe. Are we talking about the same Tom Brady who threw 50 TD’s when he had Randy Moss ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 57 minutes ago, 315Eagles said: Belichick is considered the greatest coach of all time. Their success certainly wasn't all Brady. Bill had a hand in that as well. It's alot easier for Brady to leave and go to a really good team that was just missing a QB and be successful then it is for Belichick and the Pats who have to find another QB and essentially rebuild the team, especially the offense. Can't really do that over night. I'll always have respect for Reid but if you're telling me who's a better HC assuming both have good-great QBs and good players around them, give me BB all day. Yeah, that’s the point: BB’s reputation is based entirely off of Brady. He sucked with the Browns and he’s mediocre in New England without Brady. AR has a flat out better track record compared to BB when he doesn’t have the greatest player to ever play the game. AR has gone to the super bowl with multiple QBs, would have beaten BB and Brady in the super bowl if BB wasn’t a dirty cheater, etc. Philly was ARs first gig — compare that to BB with the Browns and tell me AR isn’t a better coach. 1 hour ago, downundermike said: Are we talking about the same Tom Brady who threw 50 TD’s when he had Randy Moss ?? Yeah exactly. Undefeated regular season with that type of talent around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Shiznit Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Every NFL team's top-three players entering the 2022 season according to PFF: Quote Philadelphia Eagles Player Experience T Lane Johnson 10th season WR A.J. Brown 4th season T Jordan Mailata 5th season The Johnson-Mailata tandem at tackle is one of the NFL’s best and speaks to the strength of the Eagles roster in the trenches. Johnson and Mailata were both top-10 tackles last season in PFF grade, and they’re two of the better athletes in the league at the position. The Brown addition gives the Eagles the big-bodied, elite receiving option who can work over the middle of the field that their offense was missing. His 2.61 receiving yards per route run since 2019 rank fifth among all players with at least 500 routes run over that stretch. Also considered: TE Dallas Goedert, C Jason Kelce, DI Javon Hargrave, CB Darius Slay and CB James Bradberry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said: Every NFL team's top-three players entering the 2022 season according to PFF: Not sure I'd agree that Bradberry should have been in consideration... He's a very good player but he's coming off a down year. Not sure he's even a top 10 player on this roster... Which feels like a very good thing to be saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn7980 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 8 hours ago, 315Eagles said: Belichick is considered the greatest coach of all time. Their success certainly wasn't all Brady. Bill had a hand in that as well. It's alot easier for Brady to leave and go to a really good team that was just missing a QB and be successful then it is for Belichick and the Pats who have to find another QB and essentially rebuild the team, especially the offense. Can't really do that over night. I'll always have respect for Reid but if you're telling me who's a better HC assuming both have good-great QBs and good players around them, give me BB all day. AR won his first SB with Mahommes. With all his HC skills, AR did not win a SB for the Eagles. Lacking a top QB could have been the reason. BB had TB for their SB successes. BB has to win another SB with a new QB to prove that his system is superior and not totally QB dependent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpac55 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, Penn7980 said: AR won his first SB with Mahommes. With all his HC skills, AR did not win a SB for the Eagles. Lacking a top QB could have been the reason. BB had TB for their SB successes. BB has to win another SB with a new QB to prove that his system is superior and not totally QB dependent. I wouldn't blame AR's lack of a SB with the Eagles on not having a top QB. McNabb was a top QB. That Eagles team just had it's issues every year, both AR and McNabb contributing to those losses. A few reasons the Eagles never won a SB with that team. -Absolutely no weapons at WR. -Defense coming up small (as much as we love JJ and Dawkins, it's true) -Westbrook ribs injury -Levon Kirkland -Chad Lewis injury -Playcalling -McNabb -Choking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinfan Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Goedert is one of the best blocking TEs in the NFL, Ertz is a glorified possession WR on the tail end of his career. The advantage of an all around TE (Witten might have been the best I've seen) is that there's no "tell" - you can pass out of run formations and run out of passing formations b/c you have a "6th OL" who can get downfield and catch the ball. When you have a H-back type like Ertz as your starting TE it limits what you can do on offense, he can't pass block in-line (how often did DEs blow him up?), he'll struggle sealing off a DE on a run play, he's basically limited to blocking LBs on the second level. This is also one reason I want to see them work on Stoll's receiving skills, when you go two TE, defense often overlook the second TE if he's a blocking specialist, allowing him to exploit soft spots in zones. A guy like Jackson (PUP) or Calcaterra will attract attention as a receiver, and they have to be able to block on the 2nd level to have any value in the run game, b/c they're going to be overwhelmed in-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle45 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I don’t like what if’s. Belichik coached the greatest modern era nfl dynasty. He drafted Brady. He coached up Brady. Belichik would be worse without Brady and Brady wouldn’t have been the same without Belichik in his formative years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook#36 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/26/2022 at 7:11 PM, eglz1 said: Do you think a #1 giga-Hurtz processor can power all that? 1 ghz cpu...man we're talking 1990s numbers there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerolithe_Lion Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 9 hours ago, TEW said: Tom Brady throwing to Megatron? They’re in the playoffs every year and he probably changes the culture significantly. Is that enough to win a ring? Maybe. He still has a storied career, but he’s not close to the greatness he commands today. He requires the team to do that. ”Is it enough to win a ring?” Vs 7 rings in 10 trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vileborg Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 He likely would've not signed long term with the lions and would've went elsewhere. He has an insane need to succeed. The lions aren't known for great choices so it's possible he never sees the field with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerolithe_Lion Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Vileborg said: He likely would've not signed long term with the lions and would've went elsewhere. He has an insane need to succeed. The lions aren't known for great choices so it's possible he never sees the field with them. There is also an extraordinary influence a team has on a player’s outlook and overall career expectations. He’s probably a different guy if he spent the first part of his career in Detroit. Steve Young is a great example of this. He goes to 20 other teams and he’s not in the hall of fame. Maybe never evolves from who he was in TB. But Bill Walsh with Mike Holmgren as his QB coach? It was a perfect storm. Remember Alex Smith in KC? Andy Reid has more than a little to do with Mahomes’s early career success. Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick’s tenacity, Patriots culture, Charlie Weis, Josh Mcdaniels… no small impacts they’ve had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendestiny27 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 19 hours ago, NCiggles said: Maybe we will know how to draft WRs now. Today is Ray Diddy's last radio show on WIP. 10a-1p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMeanGM Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said: Today is Ray Diddy's last radio show on WIP. 10a-1p Tomorrow is the last day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315Eagles Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 9 hours ago, TEW said: Yeah, that’s the point: BB’s reputation is based entirely off of Brady. He sucked with the Browns and he’s mediocre in New England without Brady. AR has a flat out better track record compared to BB when he doesn’t have the greatest player to ever play the game. AR has gone to the super bowl with multiple QBs, would have beaten BB and Brady in the super bowl if BB wasn’t a dirty cheater, etc. Philly was ARs first gig — compare that to BB with the Browns and tell me AR isn’t a better coach. Yeah exactly. Undefeated regular season with that type of talent around him. We all know AR had his faults as a coach. Any great HC isn't winning without a great QB. AR couldn't win a SB till he got an all time, one of a kind QB, who is probably the best in the game today. With him, he's been in 2 SBs, lost 1 and very easily could have lost both if SF and Shanahan didn't blow it. I can't say AR is a better coach. He's had McNabb, Alex Smith and Mahomes to work with. Belichick has had Bledsoe and Brady. Don't even remember who his QB in Cleveland was. Can't fault the guy for not winning big in Cleveland without a top QB. Again, not discounting Brady. We all know his story. But BB deserves credit for that 20 year run as well. It wasn't all Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphagrand Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, 315Eagles said: We all know AR had his faults as a coach. Any great HC isn't winning without a great QB. AR couldn't win a SB till he got an all time, one of a kind QB, who is probably the best in the game today. With him, he's been in 2 SBs, lost 1 and very easily could have lost both if SF and Shanahan didn't blow it. I can't say AR is a better coach. He's had McNabb, Alex Smith and Mahomes to work with. Belichick has had Bledsoe and Brady. Don't even remember who his QB in Cleveland was. Can't fault the guy for not winning big in Cleveland without a top QB. Again, not discounting Brady. We all know his story. But BB deserves credit for that 20 year run as well. It wasn't all Brady. And a healthy helping of cheating, from both Belicheat and Shady Brady — two peas in a pod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315Eagles Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Penn7980 said: AR won his first SB with Mahommes. With all his HC skills, AR did not win a SB for the Eagles. Lacking a top QB could have been the reason. BB had TB for their SB successes. BB has to win another SB with a new QB to prove that his system is superior and not totally QB dependent. That's fair. Don't you think BB played a major part in the SBs they won, especially the first 3 when it was more dependent on the defense? What about holding the Rams to 3 points in their last SB? Is that all Brady? Both should get credit for what they accomplished together. No HC-QB combo will probably ever match it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendestiny27 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 36 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Tomorrow is the last day Oh ok, maybe it's the last weekend, they made it seem like today was it. Why would the Steelers let Hunt go? They don't ever let anyone go if they're good. I do like the Steelers receivers and linebackers that they draft at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said: Today is Ray Diddy's last radio show on WIP. 10a-1p 57 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Tomorrow is the last day Fight to settle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hputenis Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 17 hours ago, eaglestime34 said: Michigan was ranked top 5 in Brady's senior year and won the orange bowel. But yes I do agree with your point. Chipotle for lunch it is @EaglePhan1986! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpac55 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: Fight to settle it. I'll take notes on a yellow note pad and fill everyone in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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