August 13, 20224 yr 47 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: just arrest that mf'er now. Back the blue, right @Procus ?
August 13, 20224 yr And there goes another narrative espoused by morons. They took info in June and got a declaration that everything had been turned over… In an effort to resolve the dispute, Mr. Bratt and other officials visited Mar-a-Lago in early June, briefly meeting Mr. Trump. Two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, M. Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb, spoke with Mr. Bratt and a handful of investigators he traveled with, people briefed on the meeting said. Mr. Corcoran and Ms. Bobb showed Mr. Bratt and his team boxes holding material Mr. Trump had taken from the White House that were being kept in a storage area, the people said. According to two people briefed on the visit, Mr. Bratt and his team left with additional material marked classified, and around that time also obtained the written declaration from a Trump lawyer attesting that all the material marked classified in the boxes had been turned over
August 13, 20224 yr Let's get some good theories going. Mine is he has been selling secrets and the money was funneled through Kushner.
August 13, 20224 yr 11 minutes ago, vikas83 said: And there goes another narrative espoused by morons. They took info in June and got a declaration that everything had been turned over… In an effort to resolve the dispute, Mr. Bratt and other officials visited Mar-a-Lago in early June, briefly meeting Mr. Trump. Two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, M. Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb, spoke with Mr. Bratt and a handful of investigators he traveled with, people briefed on the meeting said. Mr. Corcoran and Ms. Bobb showed Mr. Bratt and his team boxes holding material Mr. Trump had taken from the White House that were being kept in a storage area, the people said. According to two people briefed on the visit, Mr. Bratt and his team left with additional material marked classified, and around that time also obtained the written declaration from a Trump lawyer attesting that all the material marked classified in the boxes had been turned over My understanding is that the informer led the FBI to a different location where materials were being held during the raid. Were Trump’s lawyers aware some documents were being held in a different spot? That’s what we need to find out.
August 13, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Let's get some good theories going. Mine is he has been selling secrets and the money was funneled through Kushner. He’s not that clever. He took it because he’s a toddler and he wants it. He wanted to brag to other idiots that he had it. Think of it as a 7 year old wanting to have the best thing for show and tell. That’s Trump.
August 13, 20224 yr Just now, vikas83 said: He’s not that clever. He took it because he’s a toddler and he wants it. He wanted to brag to other idiots that he had it. Think of it as a 7 year old wanting to have the best thing for show and tell. That’s Trump. Yeah but that theory is boring as F. Gotta spice it up more.
August 13, 20224 yr My guess is somewhere in between. He wanted some leverage when talking as a "leader" and to be able to be "in the know" for as long as he can.
August 13, 20224 yr He's such a narcissistic wacknut, that he actually believes he in entitled to the them. It is why I believe the story of him lunging for the wheel. Nobody says 'no' to Donald. He has no concept of right and wrong, outside of the seagull chant from Finding Nemo, "Mine! Mine! Mine!"
August 13, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, mr_hunt said: just arrest that mf'er now. It is a total disgrace that Trump released the names of the FBI agents. It is clear he did it in the hopes his cult members would engage in violence against them. They need to arrest him now!!!
August 13, 20224 yr I was gonna post Trump's statement. But it is so full of lies it doesn't deserve to be spread.
August 13, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, vikas83 said: He’s not that clever. He took it because he’s a toddler and he wants it. He wanted to brag to other idiots that he had it. Think of it as a 7 year old wanting to have the best thing for show and tell. That’s Trump. I think that may be true of Trump. I also would bet Kushner is leveraging it separately with the Saudis.
August 13, 20224 yr 18 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Not sure how accurate but here's an apparent timeline: 2021 January 2021: Trump is stepping down as president and is ordered to return all documents to NARA before leaving office. May 2021: NARA officials contact Trump's team after realizing several important documents were missing. Fall 2021: NARA has not received the documents. NARA lawyer Gary stern reaches out to Trump attorney to intervene, asking about several boxes of records apparently taken to Mar-a-Lago during Trump's relocation. 2022 It's been nearly 12 full months since he's been ordered to return all documents, and 7 months since NARA told him directly that they know documents are missing. He has not returned the documents in his possession during this time. January 2022 - After months of discussions, NARA retrieves 15 boxes of Trump white house records. Some of them are torn up, some reconstructed with tape. NARA says in a statement that the boxes contain some SAP documents - Special Access Programs that severely limit who would have access to that information. February 2022 - NARA asks Justice department to investigate Trump's handling of White House records, and whether he violated laws related to classified information. April 2022 - NARA publicly acknowledges that the Justice Department is involved, and news outlets report that prosecutors have launched a criminal probe into Trump's mishandling of classified documents. Around this time, FBI agents begin interviewing Trump aides about the handling of records. May 2022 - News outlets report that investigators subpoenaed NARA for access to the classified documents already obtained from Mar-A-Lago. This indicates that the Justice Department is using a grand jury in its investigation. June 2022 - Four investigators, including a Justice Department counterintelligence official, visit Mar-A-Lago seeking info on the classified information Trump had taken to florida. During this meeting, federal officials serve a grand jury subpoena for some of the sensitive national security documents found on the premises. They take those documents with them when they leave. Trump's attorneys then receive a letter, from federal investigators, asking them to further secure the room where documents are being stored. Trump aides add a padlock to the room.Federal Investigators serve a subpoena to the Trump investigation, demanding surveillance video. Trump's company turns over the footage. August 8, 2022 - FBI executes a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, focused on the club area where Trump's offices and personal quarters were located. Federal agents remove 'about a dozen' boxes of materials from the property after this search. August 11, yesterday, Attorney General Garland revealed that he personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant. And today the warrant dropped. You can read it here. Appreciate it. It's been edited with more detail Quote EDIT made at 8:30 PM 8/12/2022 - I'm adding source links, since some folks asked Timeline, for clarity: 2021 January 2021: Trump is stepping down as president and is ordered to return all documents to NARA before leaving office. May 2021: NARA officials contact Trump's team after realizing several important documents were missing. Fall 2021: NARA has not received the documents.NARA lawyer Gary stern reaches out to Trump attorney to intervene, asking about several boxes of records apparently taken to Mar-a-Lago during Trump's relocation. 2022 It's been nearly 12 full months since he's been ordered to return all documents, and 7 months since NARA told him directly that they know documents are missing. He has not returned the documents in his possession during this time. January 2022 - After months of discussions, NARA retrieves 15 boxes of Trump white house records. Some of them are torn up, some reconstructed with tape. NARA says in a statement that the boxes contain some Classified security documents. February 2022 - NARA asks Justice department to investigate Trump's handling of White House records, and whether he violated laws related to classified information. April 2022 - NARA publicly acknowledges that the Justice Department is involved, and news outlets report thatprosecutors have launched a criminal probe into Trump's mishandling of classified documents. Around this time, FBI agents begin interviewing Trump aides about the handling of records. May 2022 - News outlets report that investigatorssubpoenaed NARA for access to the classified documents already obtained from Mar-A-Lago. This indicates that the Justice Department is using a grand jury in its investigation. June 2022 - Four investigators, including a Justice Department counterintelligence official, visit Mar-A-Lago seeking info on the classified information Trump had taken to florida. During this meeting, federal officials serve a grand jury subpoena for some of the sensitive national security documents found on the premises. They take those documents with them when they leave. (Edit note: I haven't been able to find a secondary source for this one, beyond CNN's claims.) Still in June 2022: Trump's attorneys then receive a letter, from federal investigators, asking them to further secure the room where documents are being stored. Trump aides add a padlock to the room. Federal Investigators serve a subpoena to the Trump investigation,demanding surveillance video. Trump's company turns over the footage. August 8, 2022 -FBI executes a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, focused on the club area where Trump's offices and personal quarters were located. Federal agents remove 'about a dozen' boxes of materials from the property after this search. Attorney General Garland revealed that he personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant. And today the warrant dropped, including the inventory list of what was taken. You can read it here. Federal agents who executed the warrant did so to investigate potential crimes associated with violations of the Espionage Act, which outlaws the unauthorized retention of national security information that could harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary; a federal law that makes it a crime to destroy or conceal a document to obstruct a government investigation, and Section 2071, which covers the unlawful removal of government records. - none of these laws change based on whether information was deemed to be unclassified or not. The Espionage Act in particular, if violated can carry a penalty of up to 10 years in prison per offense. The search this past Monday seized 11 sets of documents in all, including some marked as "classified/TS/SCI” documents — shorthand for "top secret/sensitive compartmented information,” according to the report. SAPs like TS/SCI are created when the sharing of specific information represents a heightened threat of damaging disclosures, or when a "secret” or "top secret” classification is not deemed sufficiently protective. Documents marked thus are meant to be viewed only in secure govt. facilities. The Washington Post also revealed an anonymous tip from individuals 'familiar with the investigation' that the FBI agents were looking for classified documents relating to nuclear weapons, though did not say if said documents had been recovered.Per the Atomic Energy Act, the president has no authority to declassify documents relating to nuclear power or weapons. The last folks in the United States who violated both the Espionage Act and the Atomic Energy Act were executed!
August 13, 20224 yr On 8/12/2022 at 6:06 AM, Toastrel said: I sure hope you dewshberries can find a new snake oil salesman to worship. What are you gonna do when Trump runs all over you? 🤣🤣🤣
August 13, 20224 yr 14 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Uh oh? Is Procus' sad again that the world is laughing at his hero? Did he change the name of the thread to the same name as another thread? Was he hoping people would stop posting if he did that?
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