August 13, 20224 yr Guys like PoconoDon that listen to too much conservative talk radio and watch too much Fox News don’t have the first clue what Trump did. They just know that Obama / Hillary did something much much worse.
August 13, 20224 yr Just now, Dave Moss said: Guys like PoconoDon that listen to too much conservative talk radio and watch too much Fox News don’t have the first clue what Trump did. They just know that Obama / Hillary did something much much worse. They don't wanna know. It's too tough a pill to swallow. They can't possibly bring themselves to face the reality that they supported and voted for the worst president in our nation's history.
August 13, 20224 yr Also you would think a poster who claims to be a police officer would understand the process of obtaining a warrant and then conducting a raid with said warrant.
August 13, 20224 yr 32 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Also you would think a poster who claims to be a police officer would understand the process of obtaining a warrant and then conducting a raid with said warrant. Utterly terrifying that he was ever in law enforcement.
August 13, 20224 yr 19 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Um maybe you haven't been following along, but the report is an informant told them there were some highly sensitive documents still in Trump's possession, hence the urgency and thus the warrant. Which was basically confirmed now that the warrant has been unsealed. So yeah, without alleged violations of the espionage act, we likely don't get to this point. That's the main offense that matters here, partner. Violation of the espionage act by a former president. Not sure if you're a history buff, but that's never happened before, and I reckon it'll never happen again. But by all means, continue to pretend like we'll see something like this again just because you're bummed it was your guy that got caught. I have been drinking some, but bear with me. I understand how it got here, and maybe they had no choice but to do it this way. I also understand that this raid better yield exactly what they were searching for as spelled out in the affidavit. If it does, then I say imprison him for the maximum amount of time allowable. I have no problem with punishing Trump if he violated the espionage act. In fact, I am in favor of it. If the raid fails to yield that, then it just looks like another overzealous attempt to jam him up. Sorry but Trump is not "my guy". I thought he was self absorbed and out of touch when I met him in 2005 and he's done nothing since then to change my opinion of him. The truth is simply this: I voted for him in 2016 mostly because I was anti-Hillary Clinton, but I did not in 2020, and will not in the future if he somehow is still around to run then. I hope the GOP has a far better candidate than him to put forward in 2024. If the raid yields what they were looking for, then the GOP will have no choice but to do exactly that.
August 13, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: I have been drinking some, but bear with me. I understand how it got here, and maybe they had no choice but to do it this way. I also understand that this raid better yield exactly what they were searching for as spelled out in the affidavit. If it does, then I say imprison him for the maximum amount of time allowable. I have no problem with punishing Trump if he violated the espionage act. In fact, I am in favor of it. If the raid fails to yield that, then it just looks like another overzealous attempt to jam him up. Sorry but Trump is not "my guy". I thought he was self absorbed and out of touch when I met him in 2005 and he's done nothing since then to change my opinion of him. The truth is simply this: I voted for him in 2016 mostly because I was anti-Hillary Clinton, but I did not in 2020, and will not in the future if he somehow is still around to run then. I hope the GOP has a far better candidate than him to put forward in 2024. If the raid yields what they were looking for, then the GOP will have no choice but to do exactly that. You need to wake up from this fantasy where there's still hope for the GOP to redeem itself. Trump is your candidate in 2 years, regardless of what the FBI found.
August 13, 20224 yr 7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: You need to wake up from this fantasy where there's still hope for the GOP to redeem itself. Trump is your candidate in 2 years, regardless of what the FBI found. If he is their guy, they don't get my vote. It's pretty simple. They can do much better than him.
August 13, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: If he is their guy, they don't get my vote. It's pretty simple. They can do much better than him. Fair enough. What was the reason why you didn't vote for him last time?
August 13, 20224 yr 47 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Also you would think a poster who claims to be a police officer would understand the process of obtaining a warrant and then conducting a raid with said warrant. that's not nice Dave.
August 13, 20224 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Fair enough. What was the reason why you didn't vote for him last time? He's far too boorish for the Presidency.
August 13, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, PoconoDon said: that's not nice Dave. You think they’re going to be convening grand juries to get warrants so they can conduct raids on random politicians in the future? I think you’re delusional. How about don’t behave like a criminal and you won’t be impeached (twice), be the central figure in the January 6th investigation by the House of Representatives, and also be the subject of multiple criminal investigations.
August 13, 20224 yr Author 2 hours ago, Dave Moss said: You think they’re going to be convening grand juries to get warrants so they can conduct raids on random politicians in the future? I think you’re delusional. I hope you're right Dave, but I'm not so sure.
August 13, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Procus said: I hope you're right Dave, but I'm not so sure. Nahhh, they only do that kinda stuff when the president happened to also be a mafia style crime boss.
August 13, 20224 yr 5 hours ago, Dave Moss said: You think they’re going to be convening grand juries to get warrants so they can conduct raids on random politicians in the future? I think you’re delusional. How about don’t behave like a criminal and you won’t be impeached (twice), be the central figure in the January 6th investigation by the House of Representatives, and also be the subject of multiple criminal investigations. I think the last play Republicans have left is that we should all be very afraid because this is UNPRECEDENTED. Yes Republicans, it's unprecedented but not for the reason you're trying to push.
August 13, 20224 yr 8 hours ago, PoconoDon said: No you don't have that right. It'll be for something else. The point is raid their homes if you want. Personally, I think all the politicians are dirty so it's nothing more than a game of spy vs. spy. All I'm saying is that the pendulum swings back and forth over time so don't be surprised if raids become a common practice in both directions. For what offenses? For whatever either side can find. You do understand there is a process for search warrants, right? You can't just give them out like post-it notes. RAID all the houses of elected officials suspected of a crime with enough evidence to satisfy both the prosecution and a judge.
August 13, 20224 yr Deflection shields are up. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11107969/Trumps-attorney-wants-know-Judge-Reinhart-recused-Clinton-lawsuit.html
August 13, 20224 yr 33 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: Deflection shields are up. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11107969/Trumps-attorney-wants-know-Judge-Reinhart-recused-Clinton-lawsuit.html Going after the judge now shows how incredibly stupid they are. The materials were already found thus validating the need for the warrant. Why does the judge matter if you're claiming everything you had was declassified? Such morons.
August 13, 20224 yr 27 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: just arrest that mf'er now. Yeah but he had to that because one day the shoe is gonna be on the other foot, hunt. Presidents from both sides are now gonna be raided for crimes like this. Both sides!
August 13, 20224 yr 11 hours ago, PoconoDon said: It won't be identical, but it'll be some other thing that jams them up. Both parties have nutjobs and idiots who should never be in power. Trump is the latest from the GOP but there will be a DEM in the future. Deserving as he may be, the point is that it is now OK the raid former Presidents' homes, so expect more of that in the future. Dude your party tried to overthrow the government the last time they were in the White House. Threatening that "the gloves will come off” the next time republicans control the white house isn’t much of a threat.
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