1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Has Rojas or Marsh ever hit like this in AAA?

38 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Has Rojas or Marsh ever hit like this in AAA?

Rojas hit .382 in triple A but he also only has/had 34 ABs (believe he was called up from double A to the Phillies. Went to triple last year for a short time)

Marsh was the angels top ranked prospect at one point. But in triple A hit .283 and double A .304

I think if Crawford was a righty he would have been called up by now.

He's hitting .342 but his BABIP is .413, which is crazy high.... He has a 62.3% ground ball rate and almost 45% of them are hit to the shortstop side.

He's basically been slapping grounders and using his speed to eke out hits. That works well in AAA but won't be as successful against MLB caliber defenders.

7 hours ago, iladelphxx said:

I think if Crawford was a righty he would have been called up by now.

He's hitting .342 but his BABIP is .413, which is crazy high.... He has a 62.3% ground ball rate and almost 45% of them are hit to the shortstop side.

He's basically been slapping grounders and using his speed to eke out hits. That works well in AAA but won't be as successful against MLB caliber defenders.

Tbh i think they are going to deal him at the deadline for an OF bat with at least this and next year in terms of control. Reason i say that is he’s never gonna learn to change somewhat of his approach in AAA. Because he is so good in AAA and having a success he is he’s not changing what he does. So the only way that’s ever gonna happen is if he gets to the major league level and he doesn’t have remotely the same success and it forces him to start adjusting.

frankly, I don’t think the Phillies wanna bring him up before the trade deadline. Because they bring him up and he struggles for that reason they are going to have to send him back down to work on that. And teams will use that against them saying we don’t know if we can actually fix that as he showed he couldnt be the same player at this level doing what he was in the minors. So you lose some of that value behind the mystery of Crawford triple A stud. However, I do think some teams will hold it against I’m saying your outfield stunk and yet have this guy hitting as well as he is in triple A and you didn’t even attempt to try to bring him up. makes teams concerned about why they didn’t

@e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! and I argue about this all the time.

I'm not not high on any of their prospects. I'm normally all for keeping the young assets, but I'm terminally jaded from seeing so many hyped prospects lose steam, fade, and ultimately disappear gradually into useless fodder.

Painter remains immensely valuable, but I just don't see it with any of the others, Crawford and Miller included. If one of them can get us an interesting piece to put this team over the top (I don't think they can), then I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

@e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! and I argue about this all the time.

I'm not not high on any of their prospects. I'm normally all for keeping the young assets, but I'm terminally jaded from seeing so many hyped prospects lose steam, fade, and ultimately disappear gradually into useless fodder.

Painter remains immensely valuable, but I just don't see it with any of the others, Crawford and Miller included. If one of them can get us an interesting piece to put this team over the top (I don't think they can), then I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger.

Painter is not getting dealt because wheeler retires in 2 years, Ranger is gone at the end of the year then you are down to Sanchez, an aging declining nola and maybe luzardo if he’s re-signed. They can’t afford to deal him away and really they need him to become the pitcher they envision

You could trade Miller and Crawford but the issue is there has to be a player out there that is worth giving up a top 25 prospect in all the baseball like Miller and a top 100 prospect like Crawford. The problem is last year everybody wanted Luis Robert jr for Aidan Miller. Robert has been dog crap. He had one great year surrounded by so-so and injuries. And some not so great locker room stories. It would be different like if the Padres when they went to the nationals and trade for Soto. They gave up a big package to get Juan Soto. But they knew he had multiple years left on his contract and he was an All-Star caliber player to give up those type of prospects.

The only hitter that has became available in the last calendar of All-Star ilk was Kyle Tucker. Now you could do it but you’re risking the fact that Kyle Tucker is a free agent at the end of the year and he just walks away. So you only get him for one year then you’re also down your prospects. Now, if you’re confident you can get him signed under contract for the foreseeable future then you should’ve done that.

Go look at the names out there the Phillies are interested in as a hitter: Garcia, Tyler Ward, Cedric Mullins, Jarren Duran, Luis Robert jr. Duran is about the closest one to that and frankly, I think Duran is vastly overrated by people. And he’s a left hand so it doesn’t solve your problem.

as for RP there’s guys there. Would need to get the twins Duran, orioles Bautista or guardians clase. Those guys make sense as they are AS caliber and multiple years left on contract.

Remember how untouchable Dominic Brown was? And that dude was ass

24 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Remember how untouchable Dominic Brown was? And that dude was ass

Honestly people would be more willing to trade guys like miller if they were getting better value than some of the guys mentioned. Like last year Luis Robert was the big name. He sucks. I think most would’ve been accepting of Kyle Tucker

Id add for as much crap as amaro gets, when he dealt our top prospects he got great value for them even if they did pan out

JT’s splits are Fing ridiculous:

Vs. RHP: .308/.376/.454/.830.

Vs. LHP: .123/.174/.160/.335

Luzardo becoming closer to his career 4.25 era with every start.

Literally every move Dombrowski made this offseason has become a disaster lol

Im done with Luzardo. It's obvious that first month was a fluke.

Luzardo stinks 🦨 🦨

Thomson leaving him in is ridiculous it’s still 2 runs. He can’t locate his pitches and when he does he gets crushed

2 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

Im done with Luzardo. It's obvious that first month was a fluke.

Only move Dave made this offseason that looked promising but now that’s gone. Good job Dave

So now they have holes in the 4th and 5th spot in the rotation. Didn't think I would say this but Im looking forward to Nola coming back.

Just saying luzardo stunk but Castellanos is god awful in RF. A better fielder might have had an out or 2 that inning instead of 0

Name a more iconic duo than Phillies with bases loaded and hitting into a DP

Wow we are lucky they kept it as it was called

Here comes Captain RISP

Not sure how that wasn't overturned.