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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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22 minutes ago, xzmattzx said:

I'll take you up on advice for Zion and Bryce Canyon. Some year I want to go there. How far of a dive is it from Las Vegas? How far of a drive is it from Flagstaff?

I'll send you a message so we don't drift the thread

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5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I'll send you a message so we don't drift the thread

Sounds good. I'll take a rain check on it, since I am not going to be in Utah any time soon. But, incidentally, I am going to the Grand Canyon for a quick weekend in about a month. Some year I plan on taking more time and seeing the Mighty 5 along with the Grand Canyon.

25 minutes ago, xzmattzx said:

Sounds good. I'll take a rain check on it, since I am not going to be in Utah any time soon. But, incidentally, I am going to the Grand Canyon for a quick weekend in about a month. Some year I plan on taking more time and seeing the Mighty 5 along with the Grand Canyon.

The Grand Canyon should be fun. I hope you have a great trip!

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Hang the banner!

Dave will just trade any/all of them soon for a mid-level outfielder and a below average bullpen arm.

3 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Dave will just trade any/all of them soon for a mid-level outfielder and a below average bullpen arm.

Sadly that would be an upgrade in the bullpen.

On 10/4/2026 at 11:14 AM, Diehardfan said:

Gabriel Rincones

Some they traded have made the majors. Most notably TJ Rumfield who they traded for Nick Nelson

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2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

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WTH do you even say to news like that? Hopeless future incoming

2 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

WTH do you even say to news like that? Hopeless future incoming

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

They giving up Painter to make some idiot take on those horrible contracts?

Just now, Diehardfan said:

They giving up Painter to make some idiot take on those horrible contracts?

Turner’s contract is horrible. That you’d have to attach a prospect. Harper is actually fine. It’s essentially 5 years left at $25 mil per. A team would take 3 more productive years of Harper at that price. Not sure what you’d get back though. His contract looks better cause some players got ridiculous contracts after him.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Turner’s contract is horrible. That you’d have to attach a prospect. Harper is actually fine. It’s essentially 5 years left at $25 mil per. A team would take 3 more productive years of Harper at that price. Not sure what you’d get back though. His contract looks better cause some players got ridiculous contracts after him.

I'd be happy to have them both off the books.

Nobody, and I repeat nobody is taking on Turner's contract. The only hope is that in the new CBA, they do what the NHL did after their lockout in the mid 2000's which is to give each team 1 or 2 compliance buyouts. That's the only way I can see Turner off this team, even if he waives his no trade clause. Harper is interesting in that yeah, he is still a productive player, but the acquiring team will not only have to deal with his personality, I have a hunch that he would also demand said team to add additional years on to his contract, especially with that a-hole Boras as his agent. What team would be dumb enough to do that? Maybe Vegas?

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I'd be happy to have them both off the books.

If they are going to deal harper and Turner (more than ok with Turner) then you better just go into a rebuild. Doesn’t have to be a complete tear down as keep Sanchez, luzardo and painter. you’re gonna have really good pitching. But you should strongly consider trading Schwaber, Wheeler, and Duran at that point. Because if you’re going to trade guys then do somewhat of a rebuild, you don’t need a closer until you’re out of the rebuild. And by that time, we don’t know what Duran is gonna be. Maximize whatever value Schwarber, Duran and Wheeler have as well to get more prospects into the rebuild

3 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

Nobody, and I repeat nobody is taking on Turner's contract. The only hope is that in the new CBA, they do what the NHL did after their lockout in the mid 2000's which is to give each team 1 or 2 compliance buyouts. That's the only way I can see Turner off this team, even if he waives his no trade clause. Harper is interesting in that yeah, he is still a productive player, but the acquiring team will not only have to deal with his personality, I have a hunch that he would also demand said team to add additional years on to his contract, especially with that a-hole Boras as his agent. What team would be dumb enough to do that? Maybe Vegas?

I think a team would trade for him. I’m not sure you get back what you’d ideally want to trade him away. I think that came out because I don’t think he and Dave Dombrowski see eye to eye. Frankly, I don’t think Harper likes Dave Dombrowski. And he probably wants Dave fired. And the Phillies refused to do that. That’s why I kind of think his name popped up.

Yeah, nobody’s taking on Turner’s contract. The only way you could get somebody to think about doing it is if you’re giving up a prospect like wood or painter. And even then you’re probably still gonna have to eat some of the money on that contract. So why would you do it?

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If they are going to deal harper and Turner (more than ok with Turner) then you better just go into a rebuild. Doesn’t have to be a complete tear down as keep Sanchez, luzardo and painter. you’re gonna have really good pitching. But you should strongly consider trading Schwaber, Wheeler, and Duran at that point. Because if you’re going to trade guys then do somewhat of a rebuild, you don’t need a closer until you’re out of the rebuild. And by that time, we don’t know what Duran is gonna be. Maximize whatever value Schwarber, Duran and Wheeler have as well to get more prospects into the rebuild

The problem is the guy running the show shouldn't be the one rebuilding

5 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

The problem is the guy running the show shouldn't be the one rebuilding

Yeah it’s unfortunate. It’s why I really hope Bryce Harper says if Dave is back I wanna be traded. Cause it puts the Phillies in a position that either they have to get rid of Dave and keep Harper. Or get rid of Harper so that when this thing collapses Dave’s finally out.

God help us if they bring back Mattingly

Is anyone in the Rays organization available?

I would also settle for a coach from the Brewers organization, since they also seem to have an understanding of what to do.

39 minutes ago, xzmattzx said:

Is anyone in the Rays organization available?

I would also settle for a coach from the Brewers organization, since they also seem to have an understanding of what to do.

Corey Dickerson their first base coach is an interesting name. List Tom kelly came up with

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