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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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he’s having an MVP-esque season so far. Amazing he’s behind Ohtani and betts in the odds. Then again both of those guys having ridiculous seasons too. Betts .326/.419/.937 8HRs and 31 RBI. Ohtani .326/.393/1.000 14 HRs and 38 RBI

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Last 6 appearances Dominguez has thrown 6 IP, 0 ERs, 3 hits and 1 walks 

That looked like a very solid inning for Seranthony based on Gamecast.  Was it as good as it appeared to be?.  

1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Bohms should be at first, harper in RF, castellanos on a bus out of town and sign a 3rd baseman

You are changing three positions with that approach.  Why not simply sign a RF?  Or move Soto to RF?

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

You are changing three positions with that approach.  Why not simply sign a RF?  Or move Soto to RF?

Frankly, I think the off-season plan is to go hard after Juan Soto. That’s kind of always been the off-season in 2025 and rumored big fish the Phillies were after.  they’ve been tied to him. And his agent is Boris so he’s definitely going into FA. Added bonus the Yankees coming out earlier this month and saying they would reduce payroll next year tells me they kind of have a sense that Soto is going to test out free agency.
 

makes sense the Phillies are gonna go all in on him. Because you got to remember he’s gonna play outfield in 2025 but Kyle Schwarber is a free agent at the end of 2025. So I get the feeling that Soto is going to be your DH by 2026. That said that gets thrown out the window if someone like Kyle Tucker becomes available and the Phillies trade for him.  if the Phillies get to the deadline and they don’t make a Tucker move and they just make a trade for like Conforto (who’s on a expiring type kind of contract) then I think it’s all hands on deck to go get Soto. 

33 minutes ago, mattwill said:

That looked like a very solid inning for Seranthony based on Gamecast.  Was it as good as it appeared to be?.  

Was very good. Like for him to it throw 19 pitches in an inning but he’s been much better as of late 

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Was very good. Like for him to it throw 19 pitches in an inning but he’s been much better as of late 

A lot of foul balls. His strikes to pitches ratio was very good.  How was the movement of his pitches?

Team ERA is now 3.02.  4 more shutout innings brings them down to 3.00.

With that said, having Walker pitching isn’t ideal for that happening.

10 minutes ago, mattwill said:

A lot of foul balls. His strikes to pitches ratio was very good.  How was the movement of his pitches?

Movement was fine. The issue with Dominguez is usually about his control. When he doesn’t have it he tends to walk a lot of guys and get himself into trouble falling behind in counts to where he’s forced to throw over the heart of the plate. He had it today  

Some good news on Suárez. I’m guessing if he misses his next start they might retroactively put him on 10 day IL. With the trip to London he might only miss a start if they do that 

 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Movement was fine. The issue with Dominguez is usually about his control. When he doesn’t have it he tends to walk a lot of guys and get himself into trouble. He had it today  

Thanks

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Frankly, I think the off-season plan is to go hard after Juan Soto. That’s kind of always been the off-season in 2025 and rumored big fish the Phillies were after.  they’ve been tied to him. And his agent is Boris so he’s definitely going into FA. Added bonus the Yankees coming out earlier this month and saying they would reduce payroll next year tells me they kind of have a sense that Soto is going to test out free agency.
 

makes sense the Phillies are gonna go all in on him. Because you got to remember he’s gonna play outfield in 2025 but Kyle Schwarber is a free agent at the end of 2025. So I get the feeling that Soto is going to be your DH by 2026. That said that gets thrown out the window if someone like Kyle Tucker becomes available and the Phillies trade for him.  if the Phillies get to the deadline and they don’t make a Tucker move and they just make a trade for like Conforto (who’s on a expiring type kind of contract) then I think it’s all hands on deck to go get Soto. 

For me the Soto and Tucker situations are independent of one another.  If they were able to trade for Tucker (at a reasonable price) then going into the offseason with both of them possible signings is not a bad situation to be in. Only one of the two would be signed, but having both as possibilities would be good 

32 minutes ago, mattwill said:

For me the Soto and Tucker situations are independent of one another.  If they were able to trade for Tucker (at a reasonable price) then going into the offseason with both of them possible signings is not a bad situation to be in. Only one of the two would be signed, but having both as possibilities would be good 

They aren’t going to be able to trade for Kyle Tucker without including two of these three prospects: Aiden Miller, Crawford and Abel. You’re gonna give up two of those three if you’re getting Kyle Tucker. Because he’s that good of a player. And he still has a year left on that contract. The reason why the Astros would do it now instead of next off-season or next year’s trade deadline is because you’re gonna get two shots with him at the postseason so it’s gonna maximize the value that he has left. If you’re giving up that type of prospects, i don’t see the Phillies just letting him walk away. The Phillies aren’t going to spend the money in Soto and Tucker. Especially when Stott, Bohm and Ranger have contracts coming up and really only schwarber and Castellanos coming off the books and needing to find JT’s replacement likely in FA sometime between next year and the start of 2027.

as much as it would be awesome for them to go get Juan Soto and Kyle Tucker, I don’t see them doing both. It’s going to be either or. Part of me thinks they rather just wait to get Soto  with how good they are. they don’t have to give up anything in their system to get him. they’re gonna give up draft picks because I’m guessing the Yankees will tender him. If you go after Tucker and Soto you are giving up prospects and picks that could replace those prospects and going into a ridiculous luxury tax. I don’t see them going after both and Tucker isn’t coming cheap from Houston 

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

They aren’t going to be able to trade for Kyle Tucker without including two of these three prospects: Aiden Miller, Crawford and Abel. You’re gonna give up two of those three if you’re getting Kyle Tucker. Because he’s that good of a player. And he still has a year left on that contract. The reason why the Astros would do it now instead of next off-season or next year’s trade deadline is because you’re gonna get two shots with him at the postseason so it’s gonna maximize the value that he has left. If you’re giving up that type of prospects, i don’t see the Phillies just letting him walk away. The Phillies aren’t going to spend the money in Soto and Tucker. Especially when Stott, Bohm and Ranger have contracts coming up and really only schwarber and Castellanos coming off the books and needing to find JT’s replacement likely in FA sometime between next year and the start of 2027.

as much as it would be awesome for them to go get Juan Soto and Kyle Tucker, I don’t see them doing both. It’s going to be either or. Part of me thinks they rather just wait to get Soto  with how good they are. they don’t have to give up anything in their system to get him. they’re gonna give up draft picks because I’m guessing the Yankees will tender him. If you go after Tucker and Soto you are giving up prospects and picks that could replace those prospects and going into a ridiculous luxury tax. I don’t see them going after both and Tucker isn’t coming cheap from Houston 

I don't agree.  The cost of a two month rental should be considerably less.

42 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I don't agree.  The cost of a two month rental should be considerably less.

He’s not a two month rental. He’s under contract for 2025 as he has another year of arbitration. They avoided arbitration this year signing the 1 year contract to avoid going to arbitration. But it didn’t erase his 2025 arbitration year. So he is still under Astros control for 2025 cause he has a year left of arbitration. He’s not a free agent til 2026. So you are getting him for rest of 2024 and 2025. It’s why when I explained to you that you’re getting him for a year and a half. And why the Astros if they do it now are maximizing whatever value they have left out of him because you’re getting him not just for 2024 but for 2025.

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The Padres traded Juan Soto with one year left on this contract. The Yankees had to give up one of their better pitching prospects to get him (not their best). And then 2 young major league/prospects. And really the Padres had to settle for that because they had financial obligations issues where they had to take out loans to pay their payroll. So they were at a disadvantage when trying to make that trade because teams knew they had to get off Juan Soto, cause they couldn’t afford him.

So if you’re trading with the Astros and you’re getting 1.5 years of service from Kyle Tucker, you’re definitely giving up one of your better prospects (Abel, miller or Crawford) and you’re likely gonna have to give up a second because you’re getting another half season from him. Add on the Astros don’t have to trade him at this deadline they could wait til the offseason. Also likely 3-4 teams going after him if made available that could increase the price. 

 

What the over/under on Walker giving up today in like 5 innings?  5 Runs?

1 hour ago, NYEagle said:

What the over/under on Walker giving up today in like 5 innings?  5 Runs?

According to my calculations the offense needs to score at least 2 runs every inning to have a chance with Walker on the mound 

1 hour ago, NYEagle said:

What the over/under on Walker giving up today in like 5 innings?  5 Runs?

We sure he’s even getting to 5 innings?

 

2 hours ago, NYEagle said:

What the over/under on Walker giving up today in like 5 innings?  5 Runs?

I expect 5 1/3 innings and 4 runs. Walker sucks and St. Louis is due. 

Why the hell did we waste a challenge on a ball that was obviously a HR?

again Walker sucks. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Why the hell did we waste a challenge on a ball that was obviously a HR?

again Walker sucks. 

Crew  chief review

5 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Crew  chief review

Ah i have it on mute. I was like that ball is clearly gone why waste a challenge 

I’d say bunt with Merrifield to move the runners to 2nd and 3rd but Stubbs and Rojas are up next 

damn Stubbs crushed that. Should’ve had Merrifield bunt them over. It’s 2-2 if they did 

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