July 7, 20242 yr 15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Think it’s a massive mistake if they give up Aiden miller for any of those 3. Particularly Chisholm Out of those 3, I would prefer Bellinger. He has 2 opt out years after this one but if he enjoys playing here, especially if they are hoisting the world series trophy at the end of the year, I can see him opting in for at least 1 more season. DD will need to be fired into the sun if he gives up Aiden Miller for any of those guys though.
July 7, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, vsptroops said: Out of those 3, I would prefer Bellinger. He has 2 opt out years after this one but if he enjoys playing here, especially if they are hoisting the world series trophy at the end of the year, I can see him opting in for at least 1 more season. DD will need to be fired into the sun if he gives up Aiden Miller for any of those guys though. The more irritating part of this is how many times this off-season did we say go sign Cody Bellinger because you need another bat? So you could’ve signed him for pretty much nothing but just money. But now you realize that you need it and you’re gonna give up one of your best prospects? To me, that’s the most irritating part. He was out there all winter. You could’ve gotten him. Frankly his contract isn’t even a bad contract for the fact he’s a good defensive player and a good hitter. And can play multiple positions.
July 7, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: The more irritating part of this is how many times this off-season did we say go sign Cody Bellinger because you need another bat? So you could’ve signed him for pretty much nothing but just money. But now you realize that you need it and you’re gonna give up one of your best prospects? To me, that’s the most irritating part. He was out there all winter. You could’ve gotten him. Frankly his contract isn’t even a bad contract for the fact he’s a good defensive player and a good hitter. And can play multiple positions. What’s even more irritating is they believed Whit Merrifield would be the guy and Rojas adding muscle was going to improve our outfield. Yikes
July 7, 20242 yr 16 minutes ago, RoadToHell said: What’s even more irritating is they believed Whit Merrifield would be the guy and Rojas adding muscle was going to improve our outfield. Yikes It’s not just that. They also thought Castellanos was going to change his approach in his 30s. That was never gonna happen. He was always going to be the same type of player where he was extremely hot and cold and swings away at Crap. That hasn’t changed. The whole high chase rate and we are gonna change that discussion after they lost to the dbacks didn’t happen for our outfield They also thought that Brandon marsh would take another step and start hitting left-handed pitching. Meanwhile, they worked with him for a year and a half and he still wasn’t great against left-handed pitching. We’re now at the two-year mark and he still can’t hit left-handed pitching. So at some point, you gotta say to yourself he’s just a platoon player. So realistically, they missed on four things. Whit was always supposed to be a bench player utility player. It didn’t address the need for a full time starting OF
July 7, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Mercado looking like Walker The entire staff is starting to look like walker, probably put a curse on them
July 7, 20242 yr 6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Yup this one is basically over i was saying this since the beginning, records dont mean squat if you cant beat the playoff teams means there's big flaws. failure to address them you will be knocked out of the playoffs.
July 7, 20242 yr 3 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said: In my mind, Painter and Miller are untouchable. Period. Why? What’s so special about either one?
July 7, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, eagle45 said: Would be really nice to get 2 of 3 from LA. Last few games just don’t feel great. All about hanging on until we get healthy at this stage.
July 7, 20242 yr 6 minutes ago, eagle45 said: Why? What’s so special about either one? Before the injury, Andrew painter was considered the best pitching prospect in baseball. The kid legitimately might be the future ace. Unless you’re gonna get an ace back, you don’t really have the guys in the minors to just rely on one of them developing into that role. Mick Abel probably could’ve but he’s fallen off a cliff. With wheeler getting older and nola not being an ace and Ranger is likely more slotted to be a 2 or 3 you really could use Andrew painter becoming that. I think the only way you see them deal Andrew painter is if they’re gonna get an ace like pitcher back from a team that’s trying to rebuild. as for Aiden miller, the kid has become a top 30 prospect in a year and a half. The kid might actually be their best prospect in the system. And he arguably might become a star.
July 7, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, RoadToHell said: This team isn’t winning the World Series As currently constructed, I don’t think they are. I felt this way when I’ve watched the Dodgers play. as long as the Dodgers don’t somehow choke which is always possible as it’s the dodgers. Their lineup is better than the Phillies. When you can have three MVP candidates in a row in your lineup and then have Will Smith, Hernandez And muncy in your lineup after that it’s a ridiculous lineup. Outfield could use some help but I’m guessing they make a big time splash as they are all in. it’s not like the Phillies offensive lineup is bad. It’s just the Dodgers are not another level with how that lineup is constructed 1-6. I don’t care what the stats say when I watch that team there’s much less easy outs in that lineup then the Phillies I would say the Phillies rotation is better than the Dodgers, but really I think the Phillies have issues in the rotation. Wheeler is still great. Nola you don’t know if he’s gonna be the ace or if he’s gonna be like a number three depending on the day. Ranger I think hasn’t pitched nearly this many innings as he has so far so I think he has hit a wall. I think he’s likely better off as a three. Christopher Sanchez can’t pitch on the road. And you have a hole at your fifth starter. the Dodgers have issues too like glasnow stay healthy. Yamamoto looks legit. What is Kershaw going to be when he comes back. Is Gavin stone as good in the postseason. Paxton is fine as a 4/5th starter. But to be perfectly honest, I think they match up pretty well with the Phillies. You might give the advantage to the Phillies, but I think there’s a bigger gap between the Phillies lineup and the Dodgers lineup than the rotation. Dodgers bullpen has been solid just like the Phillies. this is not a slight to the Phillies. Nor am i saying the Phillies aren’t a good team, but this is me saying I would take the Dodgers over the Phillies today. Even whenever everybody gets healthy, I would still take the Dodgers over the Phillies. And I know the Dodgers are going to make a big time move because they’re all in. I don’t know if the Phillies are gonna do that. I thought they were do that last year and what they wound up with was Rodolfo Fing Castro
July 7, 20242 yr Random factoid…going back to (and excluding) the low scoring Milwaukee series at the very beginning of June, the Phillies have played 27 games. They have won a game in which they’ve scored 3 runs or less once. Part of that is that they don’t score 3 runs or less often. But it feels like when the offense is flat, the whole team, even the pitching, even the fielding…just feels listless. Not winning pitchers duels.
July 7, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Before the injury, Andrew painter was considered the best pitching prospect in baseball. The kid legitimately might be the future ace. Unless you’re gonna get an ace back, you don’t really have the guys in the minors to just rely on one of them developing into that role. Mick Abel probably could’ve but he’s fallen off a cliff. With wheeler getting older and nola not being an ace and Ranger is likely more slotted to be a 2 or 3 you really could use Andrew painter becoming that. I think the only way you see them deal Andrew painter is if they’re gonna get an ace like pitcher back from a team that’s trying to rebuild. as for Aiden miller, the kid has become a top 30 prospect in a year and a half. The kid might actually be their best prospect in the system. And he arguably might become a star. I had posted a response but not sure it went through…Painter is too unproven and getting too "old” to be untouchable. 22 with 28 innings above A ball and hasn’t pitched in 2 years. He may be a future ace with his talent, but he may be a future 8th inning guy or 4th starter too. No one knows. Valuable prospect, sure. But that’s all he is at this point. I’d trade him in a heartbeat for an upgraded outfield bat (not that one is available). This franchise produces far more Sixto Sanchez’ than front end starters. And if there is a Realmuto out there for Painter…do it.
July 7, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, eagle45 said: I had posted a response but not sure it went through…Painter is too unproven and getting too "old” to be untouchable. 22 with 28 innings above A ball and hasn’t pitched in 2 years. He may be a future ace with his talent, but he may be a future 8th inning guy or 4th starter too. No one knows. Valuable prospect, sure. But that’s all he is at this point. I’d trade him in a heartbeat for an upgraded outfield bat (not that one is available). This franchise produces far more Sixto Sanchez’ than front end starters. And if there is a Realmuto out there for Painter…do it. He’s untouchable cause there’s not a Juan Soto or Tucker out there to be traded for. Luis Robert jr is the star OF out there and you aren’t giving up painter’s potential for an often injured OF that’s has chemistry issues. no offense sixto Sanchez was no where close to the prospect that Andrew painter was. Painter was legitimately the best pitching prospect in mlb and a top 3 overall prospect in the sport. If you are comparing painter to anyone it’s be Dom brown whom they should’ve traded at a high they had a realmuto of the future. They dealt O’hoppe for marsh who was struggling with the angels and the angels gave up on him. And the Phillies managed to make marsh a platoon player and O’hoppe looks like he’s on his way to being a great everyday starting catcher.
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