July 11, 20242 yr Man Alvarado has had really poor control in his last couple appearances. He’s missing the zone completely and when he does hit the zone it’s not at the spot where it’s supposed to be. alvarado’s last 5 appearances 5 IP, 5 ERs, 7 hits, 1 walk and 3 Ks
July 11, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, vsptroops said: I'm done with Alvarado. Teams are teeing off on him left and right anymore. Yup. His last 5 appearances have been brutal 5 IP 5 ERs 7 Hits 1 Bb 3 Ks
July 11, 20242 yr I’m not worried about Alvarado yet, but he needs a reset. When Ranger slips, I worry that he’s tired and has arm fatigue. With Alvarado, I worry he’s got some subtle mechanical issues that may tipping pitches and eroding his control. Teams shouldn’t be hammering his stuff like that.
July 11, 20242 yr Was listening to a podcast I want to say it was either the High Hopes or the one with Salisbury, but they said when Alvarado starts throwing high 90s and into the 100s, he doesn’t have control anymore. It’s just going all over the place. And when he doesn’t throw it as hard, he has better control, but it’s hittable as the movement isn’t as great. He needs to figure out his command cause if he’s throwing low and mid 90s he’s much more hittable. That inning looking at espn he hit 97+ 6 times. 5 were balls and the one strike he left in a sweet spot that went for a double
July 11, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, eagle45 said: Just kind of Phils like we are destined to see the Phils batting in the 9th.
July 11, 20242 yr 33 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Kerkering is lucky outman sucks and just swing at pitch 1 and 3 cause that whole outing was bad. feels like 4 runs isn’t going to be enough. Reverse jinx works again!
July 11, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Was listening to a podcast I want to say it was either the High Hopes or the one with Salisbury, but they said when Alvarado starts throwing high 90s and into the 100s, he doesn’t have control anymore. It’s just going all over the place. And when he doesn’t throw it as hard, he has better control, but it’s hittable as the movement isn’t as great. He needs to figure out his command cause if he’s throwing low and mid 90s he’s much more hittable. That inning looking at espn he hit 97+ 6 times. 5 were balls and the one strike he left in a sweet spot that went for a double As a former pitcher, I struggle to accept (but need to) that MLB relievers who generate the forces necessary to throw 97+ probably have to make some concessions in control. If they didn’t, they aren’t in the bullpen in the first place. But there are competitive HS pitchers that throw strikes and hit spots more reliably than some of these MLB bullpen arms. At these velocities, with these spine rates…I just think it’s easy for some of these guys to lose control.
July 11, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: Reverse jinx works again! I didn't need to jinx today lol. Called that sheet! Lol
July 11, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, eagle45 said: As a former pitcher, I struggle to accept (but need to) that MLB relievers who generate the forces necessary to throw 97+ probably have to make some concessions in control. If they didn’t, they aren’t in the bullpen in the first place. But there are competitive HS pitchers that throw strikes and hit spots more reliably than some of these MLB bullpen arms. At these velocities, with these spine rates…I just think it’s easy for some of these guys to lose control. I’d add Alvarado is also prone to losing control. It’s why the rays gave up on him and we sent him to the minors two years ago. Also i wouldn’t be shocked if he’s got some fatigue. We rode him hard down the stretch in 2022 and the playoffs then again last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Phillies clinch somewhat early or it’s looking like that if he doesn’t get like a 10 day IL just to rest.
July 11, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said: I’d add Alvarado is also prone to losing control. It’s why the rays gave up on him and we sent him to the minors two years ago. Also i wouldn’t be shocked if he’s got some fatigue. We rode him hard down the stretch in 2022 and the playoffs then again last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Phillies clinch somewhat early or it’s looking like that if he doesn’t get like a 10 day IL just to rest. Baseball is the easiest sport to outthink yourself. It’s tough to manage. The Braves came out flat after their bye while the Phillies were rolling in. But it’s so tempting to put these arms on ice whenever possible. I worry about the mileage on all of them. I feel like early Sept is the best time to rest. Still leaves time to get everyone innings late in the season. before the real fun starts.
July 11, 20242 yr 7 minutes ago, eagle45 said: Baseball is the easiest sport to outthink yourself. It’s tough to manage. The Braves came out flat after their bye while the Phillies were rolling in. But it’s so tempting to put these arms on ice whenever possible. I worry about the mileage on all of them. I worry about Ranger because he’s never pitched more than 155 innings. We forget but in 2022 he missed 2 weeks in beginning of July. Then another 10 days between starts in middle of July. had 1 start from June 30 to July 24. last year he missed the first 1.5 months and then missed about 2.5-3 weeks from middle of August to beginning of September. I think part of the reason why he is struggling right now is because he has a dead arm. He has pitched 108 this is the most he’s had in a first half of the season in his career. He only pitched 125 last year and in 2022 he got to 155. He’s on pace to shatter his innings mark. I wouldnt be surprised if he also gets a two week off period as well as they consider going to a six man rotation at some point when they get walker back up and Turnbull.
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