9 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

I thought I read a few days ago the Dodgers were getting him

I don't know why the Phillies waste their time scouting Japanese players. They all either sign with a West coast team or the Yankees. 

Thomson and his entire staff back for next year  

You never know what a GM says is true and what are smoke screens, but Dave Dombrowski is ostensibly saying in this press conference the same stuff he said last year. That they like the team and coaches and think they can correct the issues with the bats by working on it with individual players on the offseason.

So far all the questions have gotten "Everything is fine" responses.

2 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Thomson and his entire staff back for next year  

I hate that move so much. My gosh...don't even bother watching next year

12 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Thomson and his entire staff back for next year  

Kind of think this is thomson’s last year. They extended him by a year so he wasn’t a lame duck.

only reason that Kevin Long should be back is if they believe Soto as a higher chance to come here as he’s close to long. Otherwise it’s a disaster as he deserved to get fired 

If they run it back they deserve to Fing lose again and everyone deserves to be fired after 2025 when it happens  also don’t want to hear middleton say he wants his trophy back. So If Dombrowski is going to say this then he better actually do it  and middleton better allow him to 

 

On 10/14/2024 at 11:54 AM, JohnB said:

A little bit of conflict going on for me right now.

Obviously, as a long time Phillies fan (more than 40 years) I definitely find it difficult to root for division rival NYM, however I can't exactly be happy for the LAD's either because everyone who's anyone in California is jumping on their bandwagon and making it an east vs west thing, which, oddly enough, is how I came to be quite supportive of the Yankees back in the late '90's when they were playing the Padres in the World Series. 

If you are sympathetic to the Mets, that will change next season when their obnoxious fans remind us a thousand times about how they beat us in the playoffs.

 

The Guardians have the second-longest championship drought in the four major leagues (only the Arizona Cardinals have gone longer since a title, if I remember correctly), and the Yankees have a substantial drought compared to historic success (and a Yankees championship would shut up obnoxious Red Sox fans).  So it is clear to me that either American League team, but especially the Guardians, deserve Phillies fans' support or sympathy.

3 minutes ago, xzmattzx said:

If you are sympathetic to the Mets, that will change next season when their obnoxious fans remind us a thousand times about how they beat us in the playoffs.

 

The Guardians have the second-longest championship drought in the four major leagues (only the Arizona Cardinals have gone longer since a title, if I remember correctly), and the Yankees have a substantial drought compared to historic success (and a Yankees championship would shut up obnoxious Red Sox fans).  So it is clear to me that either American League team, but especially the Guardians, deserve Phillies fans' support or sympathy.

I hate the Yankees but no question I'll be rooting for them over the Mets or Dodgers. 

years of pain incoming, this is a dead team

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If they run it back they deserve to Fing lose again and everyone deserves to be fired after 2025 when it happens  also don’t want to hear middleton say he wants his trophy back. So If Dombrowski is going to say this then he better actually do it  and middleton better allow him to 

 

I now officially hate Dombrowski. I didnt realize he was this dumb.

5 minutes ago, John Blutarski said:

I now officially hate Dombrowski. I didnt realize he was this dumb.

What’s even more irritating when you listen to the press conference even more, he goes to Mets had a worst chase rate than the Phillies. The Mets only had a worst chase rate than you because in April and May they were god awful. You got to August and you became the team with the worst chase rate. So for a third of the season, you were the worst team in baseball in Chase rate. If you don’t think that’s a problem and you want to try to make excuses you deserve to be fired. if they come back and run this thing back then fall short like they’re going to do if they run it back should be fired. Everyone.

they might be hiding their cards, but if this is just a tweak here and a tweak there, I don’t wanna hear John Middleton‘s BS that he wants his trophy back. You have a chance to get your trophy back. Put your money where your mouth is and make the moves you have to make otherwise I don’t wanna hear this BS about your trophy. Because you ain’t getting in anytime soon running it back with minimal moves as your team was 51-50 in its last 101 games. you know there’s a Fing problem and your arrogance is on full display season ending press conferences in a row because you got lucky you got to a Fing World Series in 2022.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What’s even more irritating when you listen to the press conference even more, he goes to Mets had a worst chase rate than the Phillies. The Mets only had a worst chase rate than you because in April and May they were god awful. You got to August and you became the team with the worst chase rate. So for a third of the season, you were the worst team in baseball in Chase rate. If you don’t think that’s a problem and you want to try to make excuses you deserve to be fired. if they come back and run this thing back then fall short like they’re going to do if they run it back should be fired. Everyone.

they might be hiding their cards, but if this is just a tweak here and a tweak there, I don’t wanna hear John Middleton‘s BS that he wants his trophy back. You have a chance to get your trophy back. Put your money where your mouth is and make the moves you have to make otherwise I don’t wanna hear this BS about your trophy. Because you ain’t getting in anytime soon running it back with minimal moves as your team was 51-50 in its last 101 games. you know there’s a Fing problem and your arrogance is on full display season ending press conferences in a row because you got lucky you got to a Fing World Series in 2022.

It almost feels like DD is saying F the fanbase, I know what I'm doing. Like he's doubling down on his crap decisions. From my perspective he's been an avg at best GM. And to look at the chase rate and hitting/AB approach strategy and think that no changes need to be made and Kevin Long is great is just a slap in the face.

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What’s even more irritating when you listen to the press conference even more, he goes to Mets had a worst chase rate than the Phillies. The Mets only had a worst chase rate than you because in April and May they were god awful. You got to August and you became the team with the worst chase rate. So for a third of the season, you were the worst team in baseball in Chase rate. If you don’t think that’s a problem and you want to try to make excuses you deserve to be fired. if they come back and run this thing back then fall short like they’re going to do if they run it back should be fired. Everyone.

they might be hiding their cards, but if this is just a tweak here and a tweak there, I don’t wanna hear John Middleton‘s BS that he wants his trophy back. You have a chance to get your trophy back. Put your money where your mouth is and make the moves you have to make otherwise I don’t wanna hear this BS about your trophy. Because you ain’t getting in anytime soon running it back with minimal moves as your team was 51-50 in its last 101 games. you know there’s a Fing problem and your arrogance is on full display season ending press conferences in a row because you got lucky you got to a Fing World Series in 2022.

He has to be playing coy. There’s no way any rational observer of this team could consider them fine as currently constructed. 

3 hours ago, John Blutarski said:

It almost feels like DD is saying F the fanbase, I know what I'm doing. Like he's doubling down on his crap decisions. From my perspective he's been an avg at best GM. And to look at the chase rate and hitting/AB approach strategy and think that no changes need to be made and Kevin Long is great is just a slap in the face.

 

2 hours ago, Blazehound said:

He has to be playing coy. There’s no way any rational observer of this team could consider them fine as currently constructed. 

I listen to the press conference twice to make sure I heard what he said. There is so many things are ridiculously short sided and just arrogance. I look at it this way your 5th starter was a disaster because you did a horrible job fixing it. Can say we have 6 more wins if we had a better 5th starter down the stretch but their issues with 5th starter stem from a GM that made bad decisions. From inside your system in the minors, you knew wasn’t gonna be good enough based off their minor-league stats that year were atrocious.  giving Walker the contract you gave which is an albatross.

then trying to explain how the Mets had a higher chase rate for the series when the Mets had more batters go to the plate more and the Phillies threw more pitches. Add on the Mets are not  loaded lineup. So they have inferior players at a lot of those positions compared to you. So it should be worse for them. It shouldn’t be close enough to where you’re getting your ass handed to you. And then they talk about you look at the offensive production in baseball right now it’s down. And then you look at the playoffs, teams aren’t scoring as much. Literally the Mets scored five runs or more every single game you played. The two winners in the NLCS so far have scored nine and seven runs. They bad offensively cause you are delusional enough to believe that these guys are going to change. It’s why for a 1/3 of the season you were the worst chase rate team and 12th in runs per game since June 1. get help from the outside. 

I’ve been talking about Schwarber‘s protection deeper in the lineup, being more important than him at leadoff for the last three years. This whole argument that  look at when Girardi had him out of leadoff and the Phillies were bad and couldn’t score. The Phillies were bad under that manager to begin with. Even if he bad at lead off, they probably were going to be Crap.

So you really haven’t seen it with a different manager and with different guys in this lineup now. I would really love to see him batting like third because if Turner and Harper (who have good on bass percentage get on base), get on there is more chances that he’s gonna hit two or three run homers. He’s probably gonna give Harper better protection than anybody they’re gonna get in the free agent market besides Soto.

Relax everything is going to be fine now

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Just making sure you guys realize that everything will be exactly the same next year, right?  The starting lineup, the batting order, the rotation will all be the same.  There might be a few minor pieces that change, but for the most part nothing will change.  And the end result will be the same in October.  

11 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Just making sure you guys realize that everything will be exactly the same next year, right?  The starting lineup, the batting order, the rotation will all be the same.  There might be a few minor pieces that change, but for the most part nothing will change.  And the end result will be the same in October.  

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1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Hes the opposite of JT lol

On 10/15/2024 at 1:37 PM, John Blutarski said:

I now officially hate Dombrowski. I didnt realize he was this dumb.

I remember reading similar sentiments about Andy Reid.

This Phillies team could easily become the same old losing Phillies if they get rid of Dombrowski and Thomson.

13 hours ago, mikemack8 said:

Just making sure you guys realize that everything will be exactly the same next year, right?  The starting lineup, the batting order, the rotation will all be the same.  There might be a few minor pieces that change, but for the most part nothing will change.  And the end result will be the same in October.  

The Phillies are relevant again in October.  That's a good thing.  The problem is the playoff system which rewards teams that got hot late. 

I also remember those great Phillies teams of the 70's couldn't get past the NLCS.  But they wound up winning the series and another pennant in 83.

Be careful for what you wish for.  The Phils have done a lot more losing in their history than winning - and we can very easily be looking at losers again if the team jettisons Thomson and Dombrowski.