1 hour ago, UndyTaker said:

I can see Hurts keeping the ball and running on the first play. Just to prove a point....because ya know....leadership.

if he does that, then he's dumber than me, he doesnt need to run it at all

3 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

You may (or may not) notice new sub-forums show up, right now, in TATE but also soon in CVON and ATNFL. They are for archived threads. They can't be posted in and new topics can't be started there. 

Those threads are automatically being archived by the board (which means they're moved out of our main database and into their own database). This will hopefully help resolve some of the issues with big threads slowing down. 

Since they're moved out of the main database, they (unfortunately) won't be visible in searches. So if there's an old thread that you're looking for and can't find in a search, check the archive sub-forums. 

It sucks we could not do this to bring the old board threads over.  We were close, but not close enough.

12 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Rivera's problem is largely is poor offensive coaching staff.  Lovie Smith had the team with the worst roster in the NFL and they were competitive a fair amount.  I would hope he would get another year but think you're right. Bowles should get another year too. The roster was depleted by injuries.  I don't know that he will.  

I like bowles, I wish we'd get him back, you're right he's not head coach material

@VaBeach_Eagle Was the SB52 thread archived?

1 minute ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

You may (or may not) notice new sub-forums show up, right now, in TATE but also soon in CVON and ATNFL. They are for archived threads. They can't be posted in and new topics can't be started there. 

Those threads are automatically being archived by the board (which means they're moved out of our main database and into their own database). This will hopefully help resolve some of the issues with big threads slowing down. 

Since they're moved out of the main database, they (unfortunately) won't be visible in searches. So if there's an old thread that you're looking for and can't find in a search, check the archive sub-forums. 

Funny you mention this. I just now noticed the forum and I was looking for the Giants GDT from a few weeks ago and couldn’t find it. @NOTW had a pic there he suggested for this coming Giants game and I was just now able to find it. 

Just now, downundermike said:

It sucks we could not do this to bring the old board threads over.  We were close, but not close enough.

I've thought about emailing Dave again, but so much time has gone by now that the old Database is likely no longer in existence. I still have Super Bowl LII Gameday thread plans though. But that's going to be a crapload of work and I have no time for it right now. Maybe sometime this year I can get it started.

3 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

@VaBeach_Eagle Was the SB52 thread archived?

I archived it many times in several places. But it's not in our board Database (yet). I have plans that I hope to be able to do at some point, but it'll be a very long term sort of project that will take a lot of work to accomplish and I just don't personally have the time for that currently. 

For now, though, an archive of that thread can be found here: http://archives.eaglesmessageboard.com/SuperBowlLII/ (it may or may not 100% work the way it would if it was actually in our database but it's there and should work well enough to read). 

4 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Funny you mention this. I just now noticed the forum and I was looking for the Giants GDT from a few weeks ago and couldn’t find it. @NOTW had a pic there he suggested for this coming Giants game and I was just now able to find it. 

Little by little since Sunday, I've been moving a lot of threads into that forum (which wasn't visible to anyone). I just made it visible within the past half hour or so lol. 

Just now, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Little by little since Sunday, I've been moving a lot of threads into that forum (which wasn't visible to anyone). I just made it visible within the past half hour or so lol. 

That explains why I couldn’t find it yesterday lol. 

@LeanMeanGMEagles 20 giants 17

I think if CJGJ is back we have a better shot on defense. 

With Hurts, after not playing for a couple weeks I expect some rust. 

Bonus: steichen learns nothing and hurts leads the team in rushes 

5 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I don't know how Freeney would go in over Ware or Allen.  Both Allen and Ware have better sack numbers by double digits.  I think Thomas should definitely get consideration as a 1st ballot HOF candidate.  He probably benefits by being the only good player with any kind consistency for a historically bad franchise over the last 2 decades.  

Jared Allen has been a HOF candidate for four years already. Ware is on his second year and frankly, I don’t think he belongs. He was an OLB, not a DE but rarely did anything other than rush and was susceptible to being run on.  Freeney had to be accounted for.  Sacks aren’t the only stat that matters.  Joe Thomas was an artist on the OL.

9 minutes ago, devpool said:

Bonus: steichen learns nothing and hurts leads the team in rushes 

My fear moving forward and into the playoffs is that I think Chicago set a blueprint for teams to follow regarding the read option. They crashed towards the running back almost every time and were content with Hurts carrying the ball for around 3 yards per carry, while taking a punishment of getting hit nearly 20 times. Teams are totally fine doing that and even more now knowing that Hurts probably won't be 100% even in the playoffs. San Francisco will have no issue whatsoever replicating that strategy and they have enough team speed to neutralize it. 

But Hurts has also shown this year he's more than capable of killing you through the air. That's the style I want him to adopt moving forward. 

10 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

My fear moving forward and into the playoffs is that I think Chicago set a blueprint for teams to follow regarding the read option. They crashed towards the running back almost every time and were content with Hurts carrying the ball for around 3 yards per carry, while taking a punishment of getting hit nearly 20 times. Teams are totally fine doing that and even more now knowing that Hurts probably won't be 100% even in the playoffs. San Francisco will have no issue whatsoever replicating that strategy and they have enough team speed to neutralize it. 

But Hurts has also shown this year he's more than capable of killing you through the air. That's the style I want him to adopt moving forward. 

When I was at Syracuse....Don McPherson used to do the zone read, fake the handoff and then drop back and pass.  I know it's a lot, and the NFL defenses are so much faster, but would love to see it used here....well at least a couple of times as a new wrinkle.....

11 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

My fear moving forward and into the playoffs is that I think Chicago set a blueprint for teams to follow regarding the read option. They crashed towards the running back almost every time and were content with Hurts carrying the ball for around 3 yards per carry, while taking a punishment of getting hit nearly 20 times. Teams are totally fine doing that and even more now knowing that Hurts probably won't be 100% even in the playoffs. San Francisco will have no issue whatsoever replicating that strategy and they have enough team speed to neutralize it. 

But Hurts has also shown this year he's more than capable of killing you through the air. That's the style I want him to adopt moving forward. 

IIRC the Bears played a bunch of man and loaded the box - normally that is very risky… but the weather was cooperative; not to say Philly weather in January is going to be that much different (well who knows what the weather will be like these days).

31 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Funny you mention this. I just now noticed the forum and I was looking for the Giants GDT from a few weeks ago and couldn’t find it. @NOTW had a pic there he suggested for this coming Giants game and I was just now able to find it. 

Even so, always happy to share pics disparaging other NFCE Teams 

Yes I know it was a TD just thought it looked funny.

4 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

That is not correct, equity = equality of outcome.

You are misinformed.  Please read the following.  I have bolded the relevant sentences, but the whole is the sum of its parts, so I’ve provided the whole for you to cogitate.

Diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) is a conceptual framework that claims to promote the fair treatment and full participation of all people, especially in the workplace, including populations who have historically been under-represented or subject to discrimination because of their background, identity, disability, etc.

"Diversity" describes a wide variety of differences that may exist amongst people in any community, including race, ethnicity, nationality, gender and sexual identity, disability, neurodiversity, and others. "Equity" is the practice of providing fair opportunities via personalized approaches based on individual needs, thus aiming to "level the playing field" by taking into account the different starting points of different individuals. Therefore, "equity" aims to achieve fairness by considering each individual's trajectory and context, and should not be confused with the notion of "equality" which aims to treat everyone the same. "Inclusion" specifies the desired outcome, namely, ensuring that individuals find opportunities and spaces to participate, regardless of their differences.

Outcomes are the result of the convergence of skills and effort (and often a bit of luck as well).  Fair opportunity does not mandate equal reward for unequal effort. Whoever has been teaching your DEI classes is proliferating the wrong message when discussing equity.

Time’s yours.

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Even so, always happy to share pics disparaging other NFCE Teams 

Yes I know it was a TD just thought it looked funny.

I switched it out one of the pics I had and added that one as soon as I saw that forum lol.

21 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

My fear moving forward and into the playoffs is that I think Chicago set a blueprint for teams to follow regarding the read option. They crashed towards the running back almost every time and were content with Hurts carrying the ball for around 3 yards per carry, while taking a punishment of getting hit nearly 20 times. Teams are totally fine doing that and even more now knowing that Hurts probably won't be 100% even in the playoffs. San Francisco will have no issue whatsoever replicating that strategy and they have enough team speed to neutralize it. 

But Hurts has also shown this year he's more than capable of killing you through the air. That's the style I want him to adopt moving forward. 

Good post.  I agree with your conclusion.  The gameplan’s response to such a Defensive scheme should be multiple receivers running hot routes and the QB locating and connecting with any receiver that has exploited the man coverage he faces.

26 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You are misinformed.  Please read the following.  I have bolded the relevant sentences, but the whole is the sum of its parts, so I’ve provided the whole for you to cogitate.

Diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) is a conceptual framework that claims to promote the fair treatment and full participation of all people, especially in the workplace, including populations who have historically been under-represented or subject to discrimination because of their background, identity, disability, etc.

"Diversity" describes a wide variety of differences that may exist amongst people in any community, including race, ethnicity, nationality, gender and sexual identity, disability, neurodiversity, and others. "Equity" is the practice of providing fair opportunities via personalized approaches based on individual needs, thus aiming to "level the playing field" by taking into account the different starting points of different individuals. Therefore, "equity" aims to achieve fairness by considering each individual's trajectory and context, and should not be confused with the notion of "equality" which aims to treat everyone the same. "Inclusion" specifies the desired outcome, namely, ensuring that individuals find opportunities and spaces to participate, regardless of their differences.

Outcomes are the result of the convergence of skills and effort (and often a bit of luck as well).  Fair opportunity does not mandate equal reward for unequal effort. Whoever has been teaching your DEI classes is proliferating the wrong message when discussing equity.

Time’s yours.

That's the propaganda DEI proponents like to use to make it sound better, but in reality, in practice, it always ends up with equality of outcome policies.

You're seeing it in schools where some schools are adopting policies anywhere from no kids fail classes, everyone gets a passing grade, everyone gets an A, eliminating higher ed programs.

In colleges, mandating the acceptance of a certain % of ethnicities or cutting back on the number of ethnicities who are accepted into schools. You saw this with the Harvard acceptance scandal where they consciously cut down on the number of Asians they accepted into their university because Asians had the highest % of acceptance of all ethnicities. Some DEI lessons even grouped Asian Americans in with white people in the "privileged" category, to conveniently give them a means to discriminate in educational acceptance.

You see it in the workplace where certain companies advertise certain majority demographics "need not apply, because they won't be hired, and we are only hiring ____ demographics for this position."

The reality is, you can't provide better starting points for individuals. It's virtually impossible, because to accomplish that, you'd need to improve everyone's individual financial, economic, and social standing and give every family and individual the same resources everyone else in society has. Given that society is divided by class, this is a feat that can't be accomplished. So what ends up happening is instead of giving everyone a level playing field of opportunity, they hold down everyone to bring them down to the same level as those who aren't achieving highly. It's the only way for equity policies to work.

And you're seeing it in certain school systems in California, where studies have been done that show since DEI policies started to take root, their proficiency and test overall collective test score levels have plummeted. You see this in other states as well.

One of the reasons DEI and equity officers get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars sometimes is it's a very effective grift. They polish up their rhetoric with fancy(and sometimes unintelligible images) with a bunch of arrows and charts and catch phrases, that preach reaching a level of Utopia where everyone can and will flourish. In reality, the more you read, the more it sounds like Marxism in nature, which is no surprise because so many DEI people are Marxists.

Where is RTK with his avatars of the week?

7 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

Where is RTK with his avatars of the week?

He's been silent since his idiotic statement on Monday night.

1 hour ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Little by little since Sunday, I've been moving a lot of threads into that forum (which wasn't visible to anyone). I just made it visible within the past half hour or so lol. 

19 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

Where is RTK with his avatars of the week?

Hopefully suspended for his comments after the injury to Hamlin.

Hopefully there's resolution by tomorrow