37 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Wrong

I pointed out that Andy could not close the deal until he got the best QB of his generation.  Which part of that is incorrect ??

You guys are so offended by an opposing opinion you resort to extremes.

 

Remind how many times Belicheat closed the deal before he got Tom Brady, I'll wait ...

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Thank you.  Regardless of what side you are on in any discussion, both sides have to be reasonable.  I think why some folks, me included, still push back a little on Hurts, even acknowledging how good he has been, is you have the other side that is so over the top on the praise of him, and themselves for being right.

But remember, you are not talking to the guy that said "The Eagles season ended the moment Carson Wentz tore his ACL" and then got banned for celebrating a Nick Foles injury the following season.  He truly has never recovered from that.

The thing is, I don’t have a side. I said before the season that I don’t think it was possible for Hurts to improve in all the areas he needed to prove. If I was on a "side”, it was the same side everyone was on. We watched the games and Hurts didn’t have what it takes in those games. But I kept watching and I see a completely different player doing all the things I wanted to see him do, that he didn’t do before, and doing it consistently. So now, based on what I see, I have a new opinion on Hurts. The only reason you think I’m on the "side” of the Hurts huggers is because I’m being positive about him. But that’s because he’s given me literally zero reason this year to doubt him now. To me, based on the evidence, throwing shade at Jalen doesn’t seem reasonable at this point. Sure, if he goes Dak Prescott against the 9ers, and has his first bad game all year, and it’s in the playoffs, we’ll talk about it all offseason. But trying to "push back” against a player that’s given zero reason for push back, just doesn’t scream "reasonable.” I get that you hate RTK and you hate that he ended up being right. He’s a troll. A lucky troll. But we should all feel lucky that he was right. Not jump through hoops to hang on to the idea that he might be wrong. I loved Carson, til I didn’t. New information is new information. Opinions can change. But facts can also change. 
 

But no, after all I’ve seen from Jalen, it has a down game against the best team we’ve played all season, I’m not jumping ship. If he does have a bad game and you decide to troll RTK all summer, have at it. I’ll put you both on ignore. 😂

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ok?  Who said that?  

It's the "one liners" that make little sense to me.  "Reid never won anything prior to Mahomes"  or Reid won only "after drafting Mahomes".  They're designed to throw "dirt" on one of the best head coaches in NFL history.  

 

2 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

To be fair, he came out throwing, I think he started 8 for 8 with two TDs?  Something like that.

 

As for the rest, like it or not the QB gets most of the credit and most of the blame. If we lose he will get criticism even if it wasn't his fault.

I fully understand all of that, and yes, he made throws early.

But can anyone else get a mention.  Sanders ran tough between the tackles all night.  These were not huge running lanes, he grinded it out all night.  @HazletonEagle made the LeVeon Bell comp during the game, and that was 100% correct.

2 minutes ago, blindside said:

But no, after all I’ve seen from Jalen, it has a down game against the best team we’ve played all season, I’m not jumping ship.

I did not say anything about jumping ship, but it does raise some questions.

If the Eagles were 14th in defense and the 9ers #1, that would be one thing, but these are the #1 and #2 defenses in the NFL, and we have a massive edge at QB, so if Purdy did enough to win, that would raise a minor red flag.

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Josh Allen made the leap so we saw that it could be done.  There were very real factors that I brought up continuously that were just tossed aside and ridiculed.  Jalen was never some widely in accurate thrower.  It wasn't like he was throwing those uncatxhable off target throws.  So seeing his completion percentage continue to improve was going to happen.  He was entering this year with the same OC for the first time since high school and that continuity is a huge deal that factored into many things.  Factored into his comfort in the offense, allowing him to quickly process and know where players will be on any given play.  That helps you with your progressions and reading the field.  That let's you get through quicker and disect a defense.  Also the skill players on offense along with Jalen were very fresh and inexperienced last year along with a very young and inexpierenced coaching staff.  There was so much clear room for growth heading into this year especially when you then factored in gong in a talent like AJ Brown. 

I didn't grt lucky on anything.  I wasn't jerking myself off like so many in here just echoing what this hivemind was saying as if it was some determined fact when discussing Jalen and his development.  Just wbcuase you were too ignorant to see it doesn't mean everyone else was. 

Sorry, you’re wrong. Josh Allen already had some of those traits before his jump. His jump happened because of his comfort and decision making. I don’t care what you say, Jalen WAS inaccurate. He couldn’t read a defense. And he couldn’t throw with timing. Could not. Now he can. But no one, ever, has made the jump in those specific areas the way he did. Ever. That’s why we all thought it was impossible, because it had never been done. 
 

it’s funny watching you and Mike, because you both go through the same mental gymnastics to make some non-sensical point, just on opposite sides of the argument. Y’all should probably go on a date

1 hour ago, wussbasket said:

Yeah, but then add in the $1,000 processing fee.

Ticketmaster is a f'ing racket.  

12 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

You're definition of "never won anything" is vastly different than mine or just about anyone else's on the planet. 

And yet - he won a Super Bowl - with the guy he drafted and developed.   So moot point. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

It's the "one liners" that make little sense to me.  "Reid never won anything prior to Mahomes"  or Reid won only "after drafting Mahomes".  They're designed to throw "dirt" on one of the best head coaches in NFL history.  

 

Andy Reid did not win a Super Bowl until he had the best QB of his generation, that is a fact.  You can glean anything you want from it, does not change that fact.

Andy is still the best coach in this teams history, Andy did not win a Super Bowl until he got Mahomes.  Both are true.

He was the ref for the first Cowboys game and before that all the way back to 2019. Not really sure if this is good or bad.

Just now, blindside said:

Sorry, you’re wrong. Josh Allen already had some of those traits before his jump. His jump happened because of his comfort and decision making. I don’t care what you say, Jalen WAS inaccurate. He couldn’t read a defense. And he couldn’t throw with timing. Could not. Now he can. But no one, ever, has made the jump in those specific areas the way he did. Ever. That’s why we all thought it was impossible, because it had never been done. 
 

it’s funny watching you and Mike, because you both go through the same mental gymnastics to make some non-sensical point, just on opposite sides of the argument. Y’all should probably go on a date

 

Josh Allen WAS inaccurate.  52.8% his rookie year.  58.8% his second year.  

Timing and reading a defense are things that come with time for young QBs as they experience the different defensive looks in the NFL and gain comfort in their own offense so that they know how to properly attack the defensive looks they are getting.  Knowing the work ethic and dedication Hurts has to his craft there was never any doubt to me that he was going to get that part of his game down.  

 

4 minutes ago, blindside said:

it’s funny watching you and Mike, because you both go through the same mental gymnastics to make some non-sensical point, just on opposite sides of the argument. Y’all should probably go on a date

At least I am not scared of my opinion.  I am not the one with half the board on ignore.

That Ruben Randle thing, and then Foles winning a Super Bowl broke him.

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Ticketmaster is a f'ing racket.  

This is a tennis racket.

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

I did not say anything about jumping ship, but it does raise some questions.

If the Eagles were 14th in defense and the 9ers #1, that would be one thing, but these are the #1 and #2 defenses in the NFL, and we have a massive edge at QB, so if Purdy did enough to win, that would raise a minor red flag.

What? This is such nonsense. Is there a word stronger than "nonsense?” Idk. 
 

Wrong. So much goes into winning a game. Coaching, tackling, catching, running, assignments, special teams. You’re so far over simplifying this, just to hang on this dumb idea. So... hypothetically.. Jalen throws for 300 and 3 TDs, but Miles fumbles twice in our own territory, Covey muffs a punt, and Jalen throws a game winning pass that Quez drops... and that’s an indictment of Jalen? Because the defenses are so similar? Absolute nonsense based on complete and utter crap

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Josh Allen WAS inaccurate.  52.8% his rookie year.  58.8% his second year.  

Timing and reading a defense are things that come with time for young QBs as they experience the different defensive looks in the NFL and gain comfort in their own offense so that they know how to properly attack the defensive looks they are getting.  Knowing the work ethic and dedication Hurts has to his craft there was never any doubt to me that he was going to get that part of his game down.  

 

Passing accuracy, not completion percentage. 

54 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Ticketmaster

Thx!

2 minutes ago, blindside said:

Wrong. So much goes into winning a game. Coaching, tackling, catching, running, assignments, special teams. You’re so far over simplifying this, just to hang on this dumb idea. So... hypothetically.. Jalen throws for 300 and 3 TDs, but Miles fumbles twice in our own territory, Covey muffs a punt, and Jalen throws a game winning pass that Quez drops... and that’s an indictment of Jalen? Because the defenses are so similar? Absolute nonsense based on complete and utter crap

Not at all.

But if they have similar stat lines, other players have no turnovers, and the 9ers eak out a close one, I will be pissed and have expected Jalen to outplay Purdy by a wide margin.

Do you not expect Jalen to outplay Purdy by a wide margin this Sunday ??

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I fully understand all of that, and yes, he made throws early.

But can anyone else get a mention.  Sanders ran tough between the tackles all night.  These were not huge running lanes, he grinded it out all night.  @HazletonEagle made the LeVeon Bell comp during the game, and that was 100% correct.

Again, Sanders isn't a QB lol. The national shows have been talking about our D and O lines for the past two days almost nonstop. I guess there wasnt enough time to talk about the RB who has the second most rushing yards for us in the game?

"Jalen only threw for 150 yards”

We rushed for 268 and won by 31 points. 
 

But yeah, no bias. Ok, I’m over it. Y’all have fun.

Little snippet from one of Purdy's scouting reports: https://thedraftnetwork.com/sr-prospect/brock-purdy-ab6168d1-22db-40d7-a236-05c3d23b5c19/

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Brock Purdy has put together a stellar NFL resume that started in 2018 when he was named the starter midway into his freshman season. Since 2018, Purdy has received several awards including Big 12 True Freshman of the Year (2018), Manning Award Semifinalist (2020), Davey O’Brien Award Semifinalist (2019, 2020), and First Team All-Big 12 (2020). Purdy excels at getting rid of the ball quickly to receivers that are in his first progression. Purdy is also athletic enough to keep the ball on a QB option play to pick up first downs. The area that Purdy struggles is in the deeper portion of the field, where his lack of true arm strength prevents him from consistently being able to get the ball to his receivers. In the NFL, Purdy is a prospect that will be best steved in an offense that doesn’t have to push the ball vertically, but an offense that would rather the quarterback get the ball out of his hands quickly on short-to-intermediate routes.

 

5 minutes ago, blindside said:

 

it’s funny watching you and Mike, because you both go through the same mental gymnastics to make some non-sensical point, just on opposite sides of the argument. Y’all should probably go on a date

I hope it’s a double date and they invite me and @olsilverhair. Definitely will extend that invite to @hputenisand @Godfather. You need to find yourself a +1 or you’ll be 7th wheel. 

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He was the ref for the first Cowboys game and before that all the way back to 2019. Not really sure if this is good or bad.

Hussey is pretty good.  More importantly, Torbert is awful.  Dodged one there.

2 minutes ago, blindside said:

"Jalen only threw for 150 yards”

We rushed for 268 and won by 31 points. 
 

But yeah, no bias. Ok, I’m over it. Y’all have fun.

6 days till the game, what else are we supposed to talk about ??

1 minute ago, blindside said:

What? This is such nonsense. Is there a word stronger than "nonsense?” Idk. 
 

Wrong. So much goes into winning a game. Coaching, tackling, catching, running, assignments, special teams. You’re so far over simplifying this, just to hang on this dumb idea. So... hypothetically.. Jalen throws for 300 and 3 TDs, but Miles fumbles twice in our own territory, Covey muffs a punt, and Jalen throws a game winning pass that Quez drops... and that’s an indictment of Jalen? Because the defenses are so similar? Absolute nonsense based on complete and utter crap

Passing accuracy, not completion percentage. 

 

And Jalen's accuracy has never been so putrid as you make it out to be.  He wasn't going out in his first two years continually lofting balls over people's heads or into the dirt, throwing uncatchable passes all over the field.  He wasn't Tim Tebow out there.  He was giving his guys chances to make plays.  He had terrible WRs in 2020 and 2021 with the exception of a rookie Devonta who had his own issue with drops early in his rookie season.  Where was off was timing.  A throw might have been a little bit late in certain situations but again that is something that is naturally going to improve over time the more that QB exists in that system with the players around him.  

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He was the ref for the first Cowboys game and before that all the way back to 2019. Not really sure if this is good or bad.

Is that the game with the clear recovery that the refs screwed up?

1 hour ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

And I guarantee that you were freezing your ass off. It was brutal that day. Fortunately it looks like it might get to fifty on Sunday, which I would love.

Yes it was bitter cold, but since they started off the game well, and maintained it through the game, I quickly forgot about the cold. It was cold and damp against Carolina and just a miserable game, and the Tampa loss was brutal in all aspects.