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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s hard I admit without the All 22 to really judge the receiving options plenty of times.  But I don’t disagree with Hurts holding the ball a bit long sometimes. Sometimes it’s just letting a longer route combination to unfold against the coverage. But feels to me like the huge talking point was all about Hurts turnovers during the bye. Came back afterwards like he was coached to make sure not to screw up throwing interceptions. Hard to actually know about behind the scenes for sure. But he’s gunshy. Playing to not make mistakes. Killing me!

Doesn't seem to be bothering you at all...Hurts is Marino... lol

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Break it down with me. Try and grade our pass blocking as even serviceable. It wasn’t.

Lane 97.86 win rate

Mailata  95.68win rate among OT

Becton  91.36

Dickerson 88.15 win rate among OG

Jurgens 92.72

Minimum of 75 snaps per PFF   

Now I don't know about but I don't have the inclination to chart every play and determine if a block is a win or a loss. PFF does it for a living I'll defer to them

 

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

"The person that's complaining needs to be accountable, and I'm just being honest, and he knows this. I don't know the whole story, but I know that [Hurts] is trying and [Brown] could be better with how he responds to things," Graham said. "They were friends before this, but things have changed, and I understand that because life happens. But, it's the business side that we have to make sure that we don't let the personal get in the way of the business, and that's what we gotta do better right now."

Brandon Graham talking about AJ/Hurts 

This freaking really stinks. Goes to show major fractures going on.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

You watch Mahomes make a key play at the end...off script....every game.

I see him getting at least one…let’s be generous and refer to it as favorable call…each game. They haven’t been lighting it up on O the last two seasons. 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

You watch Mahomes make a key play at the end...off script....every game.

Don’t we see Hurts routinely do 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

The comfort Hurts has doing the high school offense is there.   He doesn't have confidence when he has to run the NFL level passing game. 

Exactly, finally have the opportunity with Moore’s O. We’ve needed to embrace it…instead of just jump ship after two games.

Really nothing crazy..,just teach a pro something

40 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Lane 97.86 win rate

Mailata  95.68win rate among OT

Becton  91.36

Dickerson 88.15 win rate among OG

Jurgens 92.72

Minimum of 75 snaps per PFF   

Now I don't know about but I don't have the inclination to chart every play and determine if a block is a win or a loss. PFF does it for a living I'll defer to them

 

I mean dude…use your eyes. They aren’t pass blocking at these rates.

I mean they are run blocking very well. But is that even at that high a rate. Taking you…bring up and rewatch these games and grade it with me. Doing the Giants game. Not a ton of dropbacks. Just brutal attempts at protection the whole game. Advantage Giant Dline for sure

43 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Lane 97.86 win rate

Mailata  95.68win rate among OT

Becton  91.36

Dickerson 88.15 win rate among OG

Jurgens 92.72

Minimum of 75 snaps per PFF   

Now I don't know about but I don't have the inclination to chart every play and determine if a block is a win or a loss. PFF does it for a living I'll defer to them

 

Just do it real quick rewatching these games Giants game. Real easy. Numbers can’t possibly even get near that win rate. Run blocking they do well.

Been fairly routine discussions about whether we should turn to Steen over Becton for some of his inconsistencies. Thing is when our Oline guys win…they can win real big! Just tossing guys.

" What we did today is not (good enough). It won't help us.“ AJ

There's a caveat here. Hurts also has thrown for three touchdowns and has a 102.7 passer rating on just 40 attempts, without turning the ball over. He also has five touchdowns over the last two games (three passing, two rushing). 

"There's definitely been some urgency there, trying to figure it out. And got to keep climbing and trying to progress." QB1

Seems like a bunch going on. Which could be a good thing. Like I’ve been saying…got to install Moore’s O. Development, grow, adjust…get everybody on the same page.

Four games left…better late than never. Everybody knows Siri now. So you think he was made very aware about what he had dialed everything back to wouldn’t likely be enough? The players very well know they can’t just sit back b1uching. They are clearly organizing and being very direct and blunt in force taking it to Siri.

So now’s a perfect time for everybody to vote their opinions.

Who thinks we’re headed to the promised land this season? 

Who thinks we’ll lose in NFC  Championship game or SB?

WHO thinks The Collapse Part Deux is inevitable?


 

BG said AJ needs to not let the personal get in the way of business.

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I can't get the emoji's to work,but Dallas....HAHAHAHAHA

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12 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m struggling to not feel too much like I was last season. At 10-1 we felt sunk. At least last year I was confident we’d remove the major roadblock at seasons end. Clearly I was wrong…but right now it feels like everything is working out so we just keep Siri again…and again. 

KISS,again and again. Moore and Siri doing their best to cover the fact the QB has a crap mental game and can't progress beyond it. Hurts can do 1 step and then he's done. Always the college boy. He never graduated to pro ball

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

KISS,again and again. Moore and Siri doing their best to cover the fact the QB has a crap mental game and can't progress beyond it. Hurts can do 1 step and then he's done. Always the college boy. He never graduated to pro ball

I mean kind of did never graduate to pro ball. Been under Siri the whole time…which wasn’t a pro scheme.

ASG…Hurts had a Passer Rating of 110.

What did your eyes tell you?

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9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Everyone put on 94 WIP.... this guy nails it

" Everyone seems to be realizing it now...the Eagles are a good team....with a great defense, great OL, great pair of WRs, great RB....and an average QB who is a below average passer.   This is who they are, teams have won Superbowls this way,  but it isn't optimal "

Now Ike Reese..."I like Jalen. I'd like to believe in Jalen, but ...." 

 

Totally agree with him

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9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Let’s begin with how we all should understand how Siri skipped so much crucial work on our franchise QB because he could having Kelce. Great to have Kelce there…but doesn’t mean our franchise didn’t crucially need the job to still get done with the franchise QB. 
So Kelce read the D and called the blocking assignments. Which the whole O actually needs to do to be on the same page. Doing that is needed to capably change the play or call an audible.

I thought Hurts took that job over? That Kelce was "holding him back"?

Siri stated he’ll try to increase AJ’s workload

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