Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Host a parade

Do you do that by getting more stats than the other guy in the Superbowl or by making the plays when they count and avoiding a major mistake ?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Already had extensive evidence that not one QB has performed better under Siri. Fairly blatantly been better before and after really puts the nail in the coffin.

Who are the extensive list of QBs?

Just curious...is there a list of QBs that have performed better at the same college schools as Hurts?

But the point isn’t really about who looks better under Siri..is it? It’s that the job has been very clear his whole time posted up here. 

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I hope he keeps focusing not to lose.  All the way until mid February. 

Not the way champions think…at all. Champions seek greatness! You don’t coach by telling guys don’t make mistakes. You actually just coach them on how to achieve and thrive. 

16 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I hope he keeps focusing not to lose.  All the way until mid February. 

No doubt we’ll witness the results. Really sucks that how obviously flawed that approach is…and flat out limited to the point of crippling.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Not the way champions think…at all. Champions seek greatness! You don’t coach by telling guys don’t make mistakes. You actually just coach them on how to achieve and thrive. 

Really....go look at every Chiefs interview yesterday.  See what they all say. That's your 2 time defending champs under your favorite coach who sets that culture 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

No doubt we’ll witness the results. Really sucks that how obviously flawed that approach is…and flat out limited to the point of crippling.

Again....a couple specifics without the 19 consecutive posts of a monologue that nobody read.

49 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again...what would you do differently....explain.  Specifically...not the vague crap

This is just hilarious. You slam me either way. When I extensively detail you admit not bothering. Over and over I’ve been saying the same things consistently. Nothing has changed much with my opinions. I look wrong on our win total for the regular season. 

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not the way champions think…at all. Champions seek greatness! You don’t coach by telling guys don’t make mistakes. You actually just coach them on how to achieve and thrive. 

See to me... I agree playing not to lose isn't the way to go. .  Playing to lose is punting vs going for it.  We all know our coach is aggressive in that aspect 

Great video from Baun miced up during Rams game. 

" Nick trusts us,that's why he made that call"  the next scene Siri coming to him "I made that call because I trust you guys "... with Baun saying to Dean...  " I told you he trusts us, I love it"

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is just hilarious. You slam me either way. When I extensively detail you admit not bothering. Over and over I’ve been saying the same things consistently. Nothing has changed much with my opinions. I look wrong on our win total for the regular season. 

Don’t " extensively " tell me...  keep it simple...with a couple specific ideas 

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Already had extensive evidence that not one QB has performed better under Siri. Fairly blatantly been better before and after really puts the nail in the coffin.

We haven’t lol what extensive evidence do you have lol the Hurts hasnt started in 4 games under Siri two games in 21 two games in 22 and one was end of season starters benched.

Extensive evidence would be half the season with a different QB not 2 games to fill in 

Mind you Minshew throw for 350 and scored 34 points on Dallas and beat the Jets in 21 throwing for a pair of tds and 250 yards 

Everyone put on 94 WIP.... this guy nails it

" Everyone seems to be realizing it now...the Eagles are a good team....with a great defense, great OL, great pair of WRs, great RB....and an average QB who is a below average passer.   This is who they are, teams have won Superbowls this way,  but it isn't optimal "

Now Ike Reese..."I like Jalen. I'd like to believe in Jalen, but ...." 

 

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Do you do that by getting more stats than the other guy in the Superbowl or by making the plays when they count and avoiding a major mistake ?

You gotta make it happen and be clutch able to handle the brightest stage and largest hype. Not like a coach that is bothering with listening to Joey in section 112 while he’s supposed to be completely focused on calling our game. HC at that.

31 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right ...don't rehash the long novels

Just answer the simple question.  Luke say..  Hurts should be under center 10 more times per game so that he gets better at taking snaps...he can grow in that aspect.   Or Hurts needs more practice with guys going in motion...so he can grow more there. 

Or , I think we need to pass more to pit Hurts into more decision making positions...even though it would prolong the game and force the defense to play more snaps... that you think it would help him grow.

Idk....doesn't need to be paragraphs ..nobody reads those

That’s why you don’t get it. It isn’t one little thing. It’s the results over years of short term thinking from our HC making the decisions. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s why you don’t get it. It isn’t one little thing. It’s the results over years of short term thinking from our HC making the decisions. 

Right....list the little things...list...without the novel.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s why you don’t get it. It isn’t one little thing. It’s the results over years of short term thinking from our HC making the decisions. 

Like for me....if I was all about growth.

1.  Pass more

2. Go for it more on 4th down

3. Throw deep more

Anything that is something that we all know our QB needs a lot of work on... do those things. 

For one...nobody can say the coach is conservative by not going for it. 

Nobody can say that we don't pass the ball a lot at the start of games

First half 29 plays Barkley 9 runs.

Again....besides the " vague" crap where nobody can discuss...let's talk each specific item. 

Unless you don't like having a discussion...just like reading your own posts? 

46 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I hope he keeps focusing not to lose.  All the way until mid February. 

Hope

50 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But I have to give you props.

You jumped right on Josh Allen there right after a loss.   And you build this nice subliminal idea of the reason why Hurts struggling is do to trying to win now instead of being a gunslinger playing hero ball.   Even though when it led to losses you kept saying we need to run the ball...running game is QB'S best friend you kept saying.

You spin things really well.  I think you do it so well that you talk yourself into believing these things. 

I was really impressed with Allen initially…well first year he looked like a loose cannon. Got Diggs and developed some and really turned things began to grasp the concepts at play. But then after years…evidence and an actual track record is formed. Is firing a ball like a beast what’s key? It sure is a weapon. Is being very tall and stout,more than even prototypical, useful? Sure is. He has serious god given ability. How many big moments and games has he won? He does have some game winning drives under his belt. Really like that. But his whole style dictates these type games. Putting up stats isn’t all meaningful. Chip Kelly could generate stats…for both sides(opponent and his own team). 6 TDs I’m not saying isn’t impressive in any situation. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I was really impressed with Allen initially…well first year he looked like a loose cannon. Got Diggs and developed some and really turned things began to grasp the concepts at play. But then after years…evidence and an actual track record is formed. Is firing a ball like a beast what’s key? It sure is a weapon. Is being very tall and stout,more than even prototypical, useful? Sure is. He has serious god given ability. How many big moments and games has he won? He does have some game winning drives under his belt. Really like that. But his whole style dictates these type games. Putting up stats isn’t all meaningful. Chip Kelly could generate stats…for both sides(opponent and his own team). 6 TDs I’m not saying isn’t impressive in any situation. 

Just can’t put it all on supporting cast failing when he loses just so many of these close games. If his team can’t compete gets blown out by thirty points? Not much he could do. But being 0-8 in OT is a serious issue for me.

16 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right....list the little things...list...without the novel.

Let’s begin with how we all should understand how Siri skipped so much crucial work on our franchise QB because he could having Kelce. Great to have Kelce there…but doesn’t mean our franchise didn’t crucially need the job to still get done with the franchise QB. 
So Kelce read the D and called the blocking assignments. Which the whole O actually needs to do to be on the same page. Doing that is needed to capably change the play or call an audible.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Let’s begin with how we all should understand how Siri skipped so much crucial work on our franchise QB because he could having Kelce. Great to have Kelce there…but doesn’t mean our franchise didn’t crucially need the job to still get done with the franchise QB. 
So Kelce read the D and called the blocking assignments. Which the whole O actually needs to do to be on the same page. Doing that is needed to capably change the play or call an audible.

So Hurts is running and doing all that this season. A ton added to his plate. Plus Moore clearly has been adding pro O elements to teach him. Motion, under C….

53 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Al Davis... " just show me qualifications that you have an ability for the job....baby!"

You think guys get promoted from high school to college and so on...you think winning might be on top of the list?

I think handling yourself and understanding football and people is tops on the list. But the list is long

55 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Al Davis... " just show me qualifications that you have an ability for the job....baby!"

You think guys get promoted from high school to college and so on...you think winning might be on top of the list?

Just perfect you quoted such a out there owner like Al Davis

57 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

As a head coach in the NFL...that's the top of the profession.   At that point your job is to win.  That's it.   

The other stuff helps get you that job...there is nowhere up from there.  You win ...that's all that matters at that point.

So never any responsibilities with a young franchise QB? So much more to the job. It’s comical to me you actually seem to simplify …and mean it. Let’s say instead of a second round draft pick our QB was number one overall like Caleb or Stroud. Shortcutting them is exceptable for anybody …for a week one single season game at a time reasoning?

Having Kelce was absolutely ideal…if properly utilized. He could handle the job right away while the young QB developed. But couldn’t just have Kelce so no need to be working on these same things with our franchise QB