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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

No freaking way Dickerson win’s pass blocking anywhere near that rate. Talking several games feels like he maybe won slightly more than half of the pass blocks.

Lmao yes I trust your judgement more than guys that get paid to do the statistic…. Not 

Clearly the stats back up what PFF said and is widely regarded across the league Hurts is behind a top tier OL 

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Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao yes I trust your judgement more than guys that get paid to do the statistic…. Not 

Clearly the stats back up what PFF said and is widely regarded across the league Hurts is behind a top tier OL 

I watch. All I can tell you. Certain guys in the backfield all game has been the case plenty of weeks.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

My point also was keying on when our Oline guys get beat…it’s quick and clean. Instant pressure 

And every teams OL gets beat I’ve seen instant pressure on every single QB in the NFL the D gets paid as well they have a job it happens…. It’s who wins more though and by all accounts our OL wins way more then they lose in pass blocking and run blocking 

Hell I’ve seen Saquon get hit in the backfield numerous times does that mean we are terrible run blocking 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I watch. All I can tell you. Certain guys in the backfield all game has been the case plenty of weeks.

I watch to and I can tell you that the Eagles OL has done a fantastic job pass blocking and run blocking on the year. Anyone who can’t see that clearly doesn’t understand line play 

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No freaking way Dickerson win’s pass blocking anywhere near that rate. Talking several games feels like he maybe won slightly more than half of the pass blocks.

So you think ESPN just makes up those stats?

You really have to learn when to take a win and leave it there

What I can say from all the games I’ve watched this year I’ve seen Hurts hold the ball to long that has lead to disaster way more then I’ve seen our OL get instantly beat or instant pressure be given up 

35 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And every teams OL gets beat I’ve seen instant pressure on every single QB in the NFL the D gets paid as well they have a job it happens…. It’s who wins more though and by all accounts our OL wins way more then they lose in pass blocking and run blocking 

Hell I’ve seen Saquon get hit in the backfield numerous times does that mean we are terrible run blocking 

Man our huge guys up front are brutal on our enemies run blocking 

36 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I watch to and I can tell you that the Eagles OL has done a fantastic job pass blocking and run blocking on the year. Anyone who can’t see that clearly doesn’t understand line play 

Almost like let’s pick a fans and break it down. Green Bay in Brazil? Or heck let’s look at the giants matchup. Saquan’s day. Not too many passes to break down. 

38 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I watch to and I can tell you that the Eagles OL has done a fantastic job pass blocking and run blocking on the year. Anyone who can’t see that clearly doesn’t understand line play 

The giants absolutely were destroying our line. How many clean pockets? Not many.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The giants absolutely were destroying our line. How many clean pockets? Not many.

Watch that game and even try and grade Dickerson over 80 percent win rate. There is just no way. I’m telling you.

39 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

So you think ESPN just makes up those stats?

You really have to learn when to take a win and leave it there

Break it down with me. Try and grade our pass blocking as even serviceable. It wasn’t.

I’m not saying pass blocking has been our only reason to stunt our passing game.

"The person that's complaining needs to be accountable, and I'm just being honest, and he knows this. I don't know the whole story, but I know that [Hurts] is trying and [Brown] could be better with how he responds to things," Graham said. "They were friends before this, but things have changed, and I understand that because life happens. But, it's the business side that we have to make sure that we don't let the personal get in the way of the business, and that's what we gotta do better right now."

Brandon Graham talking about AJ/Hurts 

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Almost like let’s pick a fans and break it down. Green Bay in Brazil? Or heck let’s look at the giants matchup. Saquan’s day. Not too many passes to break down. 

Watched GB watched Hurts hold the ball way to long on many occasions, watched the Giants was some bad pass blocking plays Gainwell got beat on a blitz badly, watched Hurts hold the ball to long at times as well….

21 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

"The person that's complaining needs to be accountable, and I'm just being honest, and he knows this. I don't know the whole story, but I know that [Hurts] is trying and [Brown] could be better with how he responds to things," Graham said. "They were friends before this, but things have changed, and I understand that because life happens. But, it's the business side that we have to make sure that we don't let the personal get in the way of the business, and that's what we gotta do better right now."

Brandon Graham talking about AJ/Hurts 

Things aren’t all Rosie for a team only having two losses. That was a really tough game for AJ. Hurts didn’t pull the trigger on two very nice opportunities for him. But opportunities are at a premium for our receiving options.

Geez this feels so eerily similar to last season. The leaks started pouring out well before The Collapse. 

22 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Watched GB watched Hurts hold the ball way to long on many occasions, watched the Giants was some bad pass blocking plays Gainwell got beat on a blitz badly, watched Hurts hold the ball to long at times as well….

It’s hard I admit without the All 22 to really judge the receiving options plenty of times.  But I don’t disagree with Hurts holding the ball a bit long sometimes. Sometimes it’s just letting a longer route combination to unfold against the coverage. But feels to me like the huge talking point was all about Hurts turnovers during the bye. Came back afterwards like he was coached to make sure not to screw up throwing interceptions. Hard to actually know about behind the scenes for sure. But he’s gunshy. Playing to not make mistakes. Killing me!

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If you watched the Chiefs almost at all you’d see how very clearly AR has struggled with Mahomes learning so many of these same lessons 

You watch Mahomes make a key play at the end...off script....every game.

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Vague to me is saying pass more. Pass deep more. But I also vaguely am just trying to develop and adjust more overall passing plays and concepts. You need to run the plays…so the comfort facing varying Ds is near automatic 

The comfort Hurts has doing the high school offense is there.   He doesn't have confidence when he has to run the NFL level passing game. 

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Frankly so many QBs played their whole career wishing they had one season with the opportunity Allen has enjoyed routinely 

Who are his receivers.... you gotta be kidding me thinking QBs would want to play with that group over what Hurts has had.   

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You just really aren’t understanding how much goes into the game of football.

You just really don't think Hurts has the mental capacity of a normal adult.  

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Kind of like Dan Marino would be trying to win under HC Elmer Fudd

Hurts is way more Dilfer than Marino.   Wow you are so skewed by Hurts....In 4 years if he makes it to another team...will you root for that team over the Eagles?  Crazy. 

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Run blocking our guys are top notch. Pass blocking however. Mailata has struggled a few moments…but  the majority been strong…those games he wasn’t injured. Lane I can’t praise enough. But the other three and subs have struggled. The whole group has just gotten the assignments wrong some. Feels a bit weird under Stout. Becton is flat out hit or miss. Heck he’s wins big…but messes up the same. This is the worse pass blocking season from Dickerson. Top paid G was very generous for what we’ve received production wise on the field. Four games he’s been straight outmatched by my judgement. Jurgens has been fine….that level.

Pass blocking a top 5 OL.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Break it down with me. Try and grade our pass blocking as even serviceable. It wasn’t.

Eagles pass blocking is near the top. The QB holds the ball too long and is afraid to pull the trigger.   

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not saying pass blocking has been our only reason to stunt our passing game.

Agree the WRs are just as bad as the OL.   🤦🤦🤦

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