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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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51 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

See to me... I agree playing not to lose isn't the way to go. .  Playing to lose is punting vs going for it.  We all know our coach is aggressive in that aspect 

Great video from Baun miced up during Rams game. 

" Nick trusts us,that's why he made that call"  the next scene Siri coming to him "I made that call because I trust you guys "... with Baun saying to Dean...  " I told you he trusts us, I love it"

Ok so apply this logic to how he’s acted towards our franchise QB

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20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I was really impressed with Allen initially…well first year he looked like a loose cannon. Got Diggs and developed some and really turned things began to grasp the concepts at play. But then after years…evidence and an actual track record is formed. Is firing a ball like a beast what’s key? It sure is a weapon. Is being very tall and stout,more than even prototypical, useful? Sure is. He has serious god given ability. How many big moments and games has he won? He does have some game winning drives under his belt. Really like that. But his whole style dictates these type games. Putting up stats isn’t all meaningful. Chip Kelly could generate stats…for both sides(opponent and his own team). 6 TDs I’m not saying isn’t impressive in any situation. 

If Hurts played for the Bills...they would be fighting for the division with Miami 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok so apply this logic to how he’s acted towards our franchise QB

Apply this logic to the idea that the players don't like to play for him?   Your issue....You just root for Hurts not the team.

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So Hurts is running and doing all that this season. A ton added to his plate. Plus Moore clearly has been adding pro O elements to teach him. Motion, under C….

Hurts needed to learn " under center " or " motion "   

He had to learn that?  

How mentally slow do you feel Hurts is? You treat him like  6 year old. 

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think handling yourself and understanding football and people is tops on the list. But the list is long

I think winning is how we judge the best coaches of all time.   

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

How do you do that other than winning?

Being your best most versatile version of yourself at the end. See Chiefs last season as an example.

But...if you put press conference at the top of your list....Reid and Belicheck would not be near the top of your list 

They are there due to wins

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Being your best most versatile version of yourself at the end. See Chiefs last season as an example.

Dude...see Chiefs this season

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Who are the extensive list of QBs?

Just curious...is there a list of QBs that have performed better at the same college schools as Hurts?

Being runner up for the Heisman wasn’t some lack luster college career

You are at the top of your profession.   No longer need a resume.

You are going to be in a dark place this offseason.   Incase you are on any medication,  make sure you relax and don't skip.   All this mental gymnastics are symptoms of a person who can suffer drim from depression. 

You are wound up so tight about Hurts... it's not going to be good for you. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Being runner up for the Heisman wasn’t some lack luster college career

Charlie Ward

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Being runner up for the Heisman wasn’t some lack luster college career

Was he as good as Mayfield or Tua?

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok so apply this logic to how he’s acted towards our franchise QB

IMO. .we don't have a franchise QB.  We have an average QB...that they are forcing into that role.  Finding out that he isn't " Him"  

They are trying their best to work around that. 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Really....go look at every Chiefs interview yesterday.  See what they all say. That's your 2 time defending champs under your favorite coach who sets that culture 

AR has been clearly always looked longer term. He has always understood getting as far as you can by seasons end is what’s most important.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Everyone put on 94 WIP.... this guy nails it

" Everyone seems to be realizing it now...the Eagles are a good team....with a great defense, great OL, great pair of WRs, great RB....and an average QB who is a below average passer.   This is who they are, teams have won Superbowls this way,  but it isn't optimal "

Now Ike Reese..."I like Jalen. I'd like to believe in Jalen, but ...." 

 

Kinda like when Trent Dilfer won SB XXXV with the Ravens

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Really....go look at every Chiefs interview yesterday.  See what they all say. That's your 2 time defending champs under your favorite coach who sets that culture 

If you watched the Chiefs almost at all you’d see how very clearly AR has struggled with Mahomes learning so many of these same lessons 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Again....a couple specifics without the 19 consecutive posts of a monologue that nobody read.

Well…then you college I’ve very extensively done so in detail and specifics

I'm not gonna get too concerned  about the Eagles unless they play like crap against the Steelers.

As i've said before this could have been a trap game

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If you watched the Chiefs almost at all you’d see how very clearly AR has struggled with Mahomes learning so many of these same lessons 

I Do live in Chiefs country so i'm stuck watching them every week

Their problem is the O line stinks and Mahomes has no time at all

Give Mahomes the Eagles line and he's MVP again

We've mentioned many areas of opportunity, but every NFL coaching staff is entertaining those conversations. Every team is trying to improve, especially this late in the season.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Like for me....if I was all about growth.

1.  Pass more

2. Go for it more on 4th down

3. Throw deep more

Anything that is something that we all know our QB needs a lot of work on... do those things. 

For one...nobody can say the coach is conservative by not going for it. 

Nobody can say that we don't pass the ball a lot at the start of games

First half 29 plays Barkley 9 runs.

Again....besides the " vague" crap where nobody can discuss...let's talk each specific item. 

Unless you don't like having a discussion...just like reading your own posts? 

Vague to me is saying pass more. Pass deep more. But I also vaguely am just trying to develop and adjust more overall passing plays and concepts. You need to run the plays…so the comfort facing varying Ds is near automatic 

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Apply this logic to the idea that the players don't like to play for him?   Your issue....You just root for Hurts not the team.

Furthest from the truth. Only ones not rooting around here for everybody on our squad are the Hurts Haters.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

If Hurts played for the Bills...they would be fighting for the division with Miami 

They’d already been celebrating parades

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

If Hurts played for the Bills...they would be fighting for the division with Miami 

Frankly so many QBs played their whole career wishing they had one season with the opportunity Allen has enjoyed routinely 

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Hurts needed to learn " under center " or " motion "   

He had to learn that?  

How mentally slow do you feel Hurts is? You treat him like  6 year old. 

You just really aren’t understanding how much goes into the game of football.

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