April 5, 20241 yr Author Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Just desired the one quality LB Lots of things I want too,doesn't mean e can get them all
April 5, 20241 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: There was no change at WR,not buying that It’s called The Play. Playcalling was dreadful.
April 5, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Lots of things I want too,doesn't mean e can get them all Haven’t even begun that list.
April 5, 20241 yr Author 16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: What happened was the WR routes took too long to develop very consistently. Playcalling was always home run big play seeking. Not calling 1 yard sideline passes to Goedert. No production from the slot either. The slot spot takes no time to develop. The WR's were the same as the year before and the routes they ran were the same
April 5, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: It’s called The Play. Playcalling was dreadful. So was the execution. If I can run one play and noone can stop me you keep doing it(see tush push)
April 5, 20241 yr Author Hurts regressed from making strides as a QB to going back to RB who can throw
April 5, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said: He left the ball fly,not as tentative or no committal. I'm sure we can both find film to prove our points.I'm talking the collective body of work Yea...he let a pass fly to wide open guy or threw a jump ball that was caught... vs the bad competition. That's my point. He isn't regressing...he was never there in the first place...the competition was just bad.
April 5, 20241 yr Author Just now, joemas6 said: Yea...he let a pass fly to wide open guy or threw a jump ball that was caught... vs the bad competition. That's my point. He isn't regressing...he was never there in the first place...the competition was just bad. IDK IMO he was making some progress graduating from the 1 read and run,then he went back to that
April 5, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said: It's a skill,what do you mean? Mahomes does it all the time Go check how often Mahomes runs.
April 5, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: Yea...he let a pass fly to wide open guy or threw a jump ball that was caught... vs the bad competition. That's my point. He isn't regressing...he was never there in the first place...the competition was just bad. 2023 he didn't see those wide open guys or if he did,he didn't deliver
April 5, 20241 yr Just now, joemas6 said: Go check how often Mahomes runs. Besides that's not regression...that's a decision not to run or protect himself.
April 5, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Not calling 1 yard sideline passes to Goedert. No production from the slot either. The slot spot takes no time to develop. The WR's were the same as the year before and the routes they ran were the same Nope. Route tree was severely broken off. Do you not remember me constantly begging for some quicker routes to be called? Threw a Quick Slant to AJ midseason and it worked like a charm. Barely ever came back to it however. Once they actually called it…and it worked so well…you would have thought sometime they would have come back to it.
April 5, 20241 yr Author Just now, joemas6 said: Go check how often Mahomes runs. He runs when he has to as opposed to Hurts who runs because his only read is covered. Mahomes runs to buy time,Hurts runs and falls down. Not near the same effort
April 5, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Hurts regressed from making strides as a QB to going back to RB who can throw No idea how you try to apply this statement to 2023 season.
April 5, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Well we disagree because in 2022 he was actually getting better,more accurate and less afraid to let the ball go. 2023 he kept holding it,many times WAY too long. He lacked confidence releasing the ball(thus the ball hog comment) or his field vision is so bad he can't find some very good receivers. Either way he needs to fix that or we need to find another QB because these guys will get dejected running around every play with no stat line. I agree it's easy to beat up on bad teams,but look at the demolition in TB. No pee wee QB takes an EZ sack trying to be a hero. The other 21 guys work hard and when they see bonehead plays like that,they quit busting A because it doesn't matter. Dropping the ball in the SB-ok hey ish happens with all the pressure on you. not that I like it,but he is human after all. The EZ sack was just inexcusable for an NFL QB Yes we do disagree...because in 2022 he wasn't getting any better in these specific things... the competition was just awful.
April 5, 20241 yr Author 4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Nope. Route tree was severely broken off. Do you not remember me constantly begging for some quicker routes to be called? Threw a Quick Slant to AJ midseason and it worked like a charm. Barely ever came back to it however. Once they actually called it…and it worked so well…you would have thought sometime they would have come back to it. AJ is one of the best,hard for me to buy his routes were severely broken off 1 year to the next. Unless Aj stopped putting the effort in
April 5, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: No idea how you try to apply this statement to 2023 season. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/hurts-total-tds-2023 23 TD's 15 picks and look at the sacks taken,that's solid performance passing??
April 5, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said: We ran the RPO(what do you think the O stands for?) The play has OPTIONS and he always chooses to HOG THE BALL The Tush push was the reason he rushed for all the TDs. Not RPO. Your QB was NEVER progressing in reading defenses etc. He had easy reads in 2022....they ran the ball and then it made his own running more of a threat...then he passed off of all that ...with one read stuff. He never sat back and went through progressions like adult QB. He didn't have to in 2022.
April 5, 20241 yr Author Just now, joemas6 said: The Tush push was the reason he rushed for all the TDs. Not RPO. Your QB was NEVER progressing in reading defenses etc. He had easy reads in 2022....they ran the ball and then it made his own running more of a threat...then he passed off of all that ...with one read stuff. He never sat back and went through progressions like adult QB. He didn't have to in 2022. Other writers alos said he regressed,so call them wrong also. I'm not alone
April 5, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: The Tush push was the reason he rushed for all the TDs. Not RPO. Your QB was NEVER progressing in reading defenses etc. He had easy reads in 2022....they ran the ball and then it made his own running more of a threat...then he passed off of all that ...with one read stuff. He never sat back and went through progressions like adult QB. He didn't have to in 2022. And tush push first downs because Hurts could not get 10 yards in 3 downs
April 5, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: AJ is one of the best,hard for me to buy he routes were severely broken off 1 year to the next. Unless Aj stopped putting the effort in The Play…playcall. The coach calls a play and the WR runs the corresponding route.
April 5, 20241 yr Author 9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: 60 times a season Last option for Mahomes not the second option like Hurts
April 5, 20241 yr Author 3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: The Play…playcall. The coach calls a play and the WR runs the corresponding route. And then they wave their arms in the air because they beat their man and Hurts can't deliver
April 5, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Hurts regressed from making strides as a QB to going back to RB who can throw 8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/hurts-total-tds-2023 23 TD's 15 picks and look at the sacks taken,that's solid performance passing??
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