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4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The Play…playcall. The coach calls a play and the WR runs the corresponding route.

So somehow a wheel route differs from year to year? In 3 downs it's all play calling? Taking a sack in TB was the called play?

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

And then they wave their arms in the air because they beat their man and Hurts can't deliver

Because the blitz has arrived. But they weren’t open. As good as Goedert, AJ and Smitty are…somehow they were covered a bunch at the end of the season slide. Hmmmmm….you still haven’t figured out it was because we were so predictable in our playcalls. McCaffrey came on during one of our games and straight called out what play we were about to run. The defenders didn’t have to cover any intermediate parts of the route tree.

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1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So somehow a wheel route differs from year to year? In 3 downs it's all play calling? Taking a sack in TB was the called play?

Why did we need the tush push to get so many first downs? 3 downs was all bad play calling? And while I wasn't happy with them either alot of times,you have to execute sometime

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So somehow a wheel route differs from year to year? In 3 downs it's all play calling? Taking a sack in TB was the called play?

Every down it’s called Playcalling. Coach does it every play. Except the bad Hurts to AJ play against the Seachickens. They admitted to going off script and just going for that play.

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Because the blitz has arrived. But they weren’t open. As good as Goedert, AJ and Smitty are…somehow they were covered a bunch at the end of the season slide. Hmmmmm….you still haven’t figured out it was because we were so predictable in our playcalls. McCaffrey came on during one of our games and straight called out what play we were about to run. The defenders didn’t have to cover any intermediate parts of the route tree.

Predictable is fine if you EXECUTE the play. We took 4 downs to do it. The tush push saved our bacon many times over

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Because the blitz has arrived. But they weren’t open. As good as Goedert, AJ and Smitty are…somehow they were covered a bunch at the end of the season slide. Hmmmmm….you still haven’t figured out it was because we were so predictable in our playcalls. McCaffrey came on during one of our games and straight called out what play we were about to run. The defenders didn’t have to cover any intermediate parts of the route tree.

RPO= run pass OPTION. Actually there are 2 plays on every play called RUN or pass OPTION. OPTION

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why did we need the tush push to get so many first downs? 3 downs was all bad play calling? And while I wasn't happy with them either alot of times,you have to execute sometime

The Brotherly Shove wasn’t just on fourth down.

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

RPO= run pass OPTION. Actually there are 2 plays on every play called RUN or pass OPTION. OPTION

So one could say his decision making also regressed

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Predictable is fine if you EXECUTE the play. We took 4 downs to do it. The tush push saved our bacon many times over

Predictable is terrible and death to an O.

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

The Brotherly Shove wasn’t just on fourth down.

Right because we couldn't get 10 yards in 3 downs,very sad

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

RPO= run pass OPTION. Actually there are 2 plays on every play called RUN or pass OPTION. OPTION

There are actually more than that. He can handoff to the RB to run…or run it himself.

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Predictable is terrible and death to an O.

I'm calling Travis Henry on a B gap. You know it's coming. SO??? If he executes you can't stop him. Refrigerator Perry from the 1. You know that's coming. The tush push was 1/2 our offense

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

There are actually more than that. He can handoff to the RB to run…or run it himself.

So, 3 options and he can't get that right

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Predictable is fine if you EXECUTE the play. We took 4 downs to do it. The tush push saved our bacon many times over

We just aren’t going to see eye to eye on anything apparently. Predictable playcalling is a massive failure by the playcaller. Just basic fundamentals of football here to me.

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

So, 3 options and he can't get that right

Usually it's 2, pass or Hurts runs,or RB hand off or Hurts runs depending on the play called. And hurts held the ball way too long many times. You can blame a bad play call,but that play the ball should be out of his hands before I can read War and Peace

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So, 3 options and he can't get that right

He runs the RPO fantastic. Again …no idea what you’re talking about here.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We just aren’t going to see eye to eye on anything apparently. Predictable playcalling is a massive failure by the playcaller. Just basic fundamentals of football here to me.

We rarely do. Even with mediocre play calling the talent on this team should have prevailed,but Hurts needs to get the ball to the playmakers

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He runs the RPO fantastic. Again …no idea what you’re talking about here.

RUN, passing is something not in his vocabulary(aka ball hogging)

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Mahomes runs because it's his LAST option not his second option

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Mahomes runs because it's his LAST option not his second option

1 read and run. Sorry you don't see it

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At any rate Hurts needs to become more of a passer. Howe spent alot to get him the tools or why have them??

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

At any rate Hurts needs to become more of a passer. Howe spent alot to get him the tools or why have them??

My bad, it was all play calling lol which accounted for 4 PPG less than 2022. 10-1 was a total farce,Joe is right on that count

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BTW Goedert was totally misused,I will give you that one

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Because the blitz has arrived. But they weren’t open. As good as Goedert, AJ and Smitty are…somehow they were covered a bunch at the end of the season slide. Hmmmmm….you still haven’t figured out it was because we were so predictable in our playcalls. McCaffrey came on during one of our games and straight called out what play we were about to run. The defenders didn’t have to cover any intermediate parts of the route tree.

Yeah...he called a QB run.  The rest of the world knows its the play when it's empty backfield.  It's always been the play. 

Play calling is the excuse when a dude needs help...which Hurts does as a passer.   He isn't one to change a play due to his mental IQ in the route vs coverage aspect...and certainly not grasping the concept that he can audible extra protection vs a blitz

 

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

At any rate Hurts needs to become more of a passer. Howe spent alot to get him the tools or why have them??

Correct...he needs to become that guy...because he was never that guy yet.  💯 agree!

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