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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So let’s be clear about our team and current circumstances. We are WorldChamps! Looking to repeat. We lost the most quality players of any team….not even by a small margin. In doing so it meant we couldn’t add FAs as it would spoil our Comp pick gains in return. We lost our O mind that clearly made such a huge difference in every way about that whole side of the ball.

So in this setting of an All In/Win Know contending team….we lost a whole lot. How does anybody think this draft is going to really help our mission to bring home another parade…in these next two seasons?

There was no possible way to fill all the holes they left behind with the same caliber of players but I think we did a great job finding quality players to replace them. Show me a hole we didn't address this off-season. Even G we addressed in the draft and with the trade. Do I think we are a better team than last year? Probably not but hopefully these young kids can come in and be competent replacements.

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57 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So let's see what he does before you pass judgement, before one snap has been taken?

57 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Winningest coach we have ever had, but Ham wants to change that lmao

Promote the Passing Game Coach and champion the HC for everything done by others to overcome their shortcomings.

Never heard anything from you FL about how brilliant our passing game was. In fact….its been severely held back by our coaching situation. Everything happened since Siri took over all evidence pointing directly proving those two have been the weak links. Exactly their areas that weren’t being developed. Exactly their areas we weren’t even running on near a pro level.

59 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Patullo does worry me but not because I think our offense is going to change we are going to run the same things we have ran since 2021…but that lack of play calling that sense of when to call plays and stack play calls etc. we got from the more proven Moore and Stiechen

Playcalling really needs to have much more than one step at a time approach and thinking.

59 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Moore showed us what was the correct way to run THIS offense. Patullo should carry that forward. Why would he change it all????

He completely worked his tail off creating our O

59 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Moore showed us what was the correct way to run THIS offense. Patullo should carry that forward. Why would he change it all????

Moore I thought showed to the largest doubters …even the blind what we’ve been so missing this whole time. Moore isn’t some unbelievable O mind. He’s just a qualified decent NFL O mind. That’s how massive the gap has been. Bringing in average O mind was light years beyond what we’ve been doing for years.

Am I really the only one here that sees all this? Obviously I understand FL and No Mas HurtHating blinding their judgement. Everything they’ve railed on against Hurts so clearly has just been a product of a young QB in one of the least environments to succeed in. No O mind….no scheme…no thoughts of beyond one step playcalling much less more than one game at a time development approaches.

It’s fair to point out areas Hurts was drafted at..those flaws. It’s understandable that such a young player that had a new O and playcaller each season in college was behind in these exact areas. You name it….it’s the exact picture conclusions any knowledgable football person could provide of issues dealing with that in college.

But c’mon now. How many billions is this franchise worth? Pro team HAS to develop and create professional football players here. It’s exactly their freaking job beyond making money.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You whined when Steichen left,you whined when Moore left,you whined that Siri should be fired,yet we improved every year and went to the SB twice,so keep whining while they keep winning

Siri? The longer term approach here we will benefit from. But I was exactly spot on with all this you just listed. I foretold exactly what the issues going on were. You read me doing this for years. Some how you still can’t see any of it. I was right. Hindsight more just proves my theories and educating guessing correct if anything.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then Howie will make the change,but he wasn't promoted for no reason

Siri won the SB. So Siri chose his OC. He promoted his boy. Name any other person that could take our area of coaching weakness instead stating our passing game coordinator has been our area of strength carrying our team.

So go ahead and make the case of how Patullo earned the promotion to run our O.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So go ahead and make the case of how Patullo earned the promotion to run our O.

What coaching area has suffered more on our team? Has the Passing Game Coordinator been forced to carry a bad OLine coach? Or I know…Patullo’s pasising O job is what overcame our shortcomings with our rushing attack.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Moore showed us what was the correct way to run THIS offense. Patullo should carry that forward. Why would he change it all????

This thing called progressing and improving. Too much for me to dream of evidently. Hopefully Moore taught our O coaches and players enough to build from going forward. Developed them.

6 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

I just thought we had a good draft and people freaking out about this and that. The only thing we didn't address was TE & WR but we already have stars at all 3 starting positions still smh.

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Moore I thought showed to the largest doubters …even the blind what we’ve been so missing this whole time. Moore isn’t some unbelievable O mind. He’s just a qualified decent NFL O mind. That’s how massive the gap has been. Bringing in average O mind was light years beyond what we’ve been doing for years.

So let me understand your statement here?

A qualified O mind in 2024 ....is light years beyond Steichen and Doug... who you feel were not quality from 2016 to 2022?

27 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Am I really the only one here that sees all this? Obviously I understand FL and No Mas HurtHating blinding their judgement. Everything they’ve railed on against Hurts so clearly has just been a product of a young QB in one of the least environments to succeed in. No O mind….no scheme…no thoughts of beyond one step playcalling much less more than one game at a time development approaches.

I agree ...me and GB were complaining all season and saying we weren't seeing the team get better. You had the vision and called it all year how this team was so good.

I love the vocabulary...." foretold" is another one..

Lol

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So go ahead and make the case of how Patullo earned the promotion to run our O.

Can you make the case why he shouldn’t be promoted???? Do you know exactly what his job entailed??? What all his responsibilities were???

Blaming him for the pass game like we didn’t have an OC, QB coach, WR coach???? But no it was strictly just Patullo fault.

34 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

one of the least environments to succeed in. No O mind….no scheme…no thoughts of beyond one step playcalling much less more than one game at a time development approaches.

How can one be this delusional you don’t have 5 winning seasons make the playoffs every year, 2 NFC championships, 2 SB appearances and a SB win…. If your just this clueless HC that doesn’t have an environment for players to succeed in

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Can you make the case why he shouldn’t be promoted???? Do you know exactly what his job entailed??? What all his responsibilities were???

Blaming him for the pass game like we didn’t have an OC, QB coach, WR coach???? But no it was strictly just Patullo fault.

He likes the genius O mind that was fired from Houston .... btw, did that guy get a job?

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

How can one be this delusional you don’t have 5 winning seasons make the playoffs every year, 2 NFC championships, 2 SB appearances and a SB win…. If your just this clueless HC that doesn’t have an environment for players to succeed in

You guys continue to engage...lol

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4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Obviously fielding an old slow team had no future. That’s exactly something to b17ch about.

SO now they are all grown up and ready to lead

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4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Dude…what hindsight should have been pointing out so clearly was how nonexistent Siri’s scheme was. How can you possibly look back throughout Siri’s time here as HC and believe differently?

The decision to pull Hurts back was Siri's no one elses. Hurts was NOT HANDLING the Moore offense well. It was TOO COMPLEX for Hurts, so back to what he knew the KISS offense. Siri made that call and we went and won the SB,but he sucks? He had a first day too. You have to live with that and let the guy grow. If you refuse to see Siri's growth and maturation,you missed the reason why we won the SB. AR was OUTCOACHED in the SB and it WASN'T close. So keep whining while Siri keeps winning

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4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m passing judgement on what he’s accomplished for us so far on the job. Think that’s fair. Not sure how you’ve shared any opinions that weren’t super critical about our Passing game. Seems like it’s been the exact main area of your bashing in fact. Over and over you’ve complained about our passing. Now I do realize you’ve blamed Hurts…in your HurtsHating attempts. Reached status of labeling it the KISS O. Seems like the last person you’d believe earned the lead position would be the Passing Game Coordinator himself.

Patullo has not played ONE SNAP AS OC. No that's NOT fair to judge him before that. Hurts is a GAME MANAGER(remember Foles?) Trying the Moore offense led your god Hurts to lead the league in picks, How many damn times we are we going to rehash this BS????? My Hurts bashing passin was warranted and now you see why. Once he was pulled BACK and becamse a game manager is when he shined(and hopefully still will) everyone on this board is sick of your godlike admiration for a MEDIOCRE QB. If you were a pee wee QB as stated even YOU know it. The offense runs through BARKLEY not Hurts. This offense would be fine behind McKee too(or any other mediocre QB) Hurts is not nor will ever be Brady or Manning Get a grip man!!!!

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4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Moore I thought showed to the largest doubters …even the blind what we’ve been so missing this whole time. Moore isn’t some unbelievable O mind. He’s just a qualified decent NFL O mind. That’s how massive the gap has been. Bringing in average O mind was light years beyond what we’ve been doing for years.

LMFAO now you are backtracking and doing a CYA because you wanted Siri fired and replaced by Moore, because he was gods answer for this team, just like you whined when Steichen left. Have the Colts won a SB I'm unaware of???

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