So apparently we got an OT that was told to stay in school so he could be a probable 1st round pick.

Now instead of college, he gets a full year of Stoutland U.

Great video I saw about last season.. . Probably the most enjoyable season of my life for sure. Just pure domination and improvement as the season went along. Real fun to watch.

21 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Apparently Lurie thinks he's ready to take the reins or he wouldn't have been promoted

Yeah…not as sure about all that. What could he do? You going to fire Siri immediately after winning the SB? How could he explain that? It was hard enough to not look super power hungry and controlling firing Pedey as quickly as he did.

20 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So let me understand your statement here?

A qualified O mind in 2024 ....is light years beyond Steichen and Doug... who you feel were not quality from 2016 to 2022?

You clearly know I was talking about since Siri took over. Why are you even trying to stretch everything always into what you know I was never saying?

20 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I agree ...me and GB were complaining all season and saying we weren't seeing the team get better. You had the vision and called it all year how this team was so good.

You said Hurts couldn’t read a D. Then BOOM….first season he was actually given a chance….and under Moore…he does. What a miracle! Amazing how much actually getting in the playcall with any time left on the playclock gives a QB time to look over a D. I’m sure you just believe it’s a total coincidence that stepping up to actual pro O by using motion aids a QB reading the D.

20 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Can you make the case why he shouldn’t be promoted???? Do you know exactly what his job entailed??? What all his responsibilities were???

Blaming him for the pass game like we didn’t have an OC, QB coach, WR coach???? But no it was strictly just Patullo fault.

Strike one trying to explain any reason he earned the promotion.

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Strike one trying to explain any reason he earned the promotion.

"That continuity is really important because he knows what I'm thinking in certain situations, how you want things to be taught, all of those different things, so he's been a great resource for me the entire time, our success this year, but really the success we've had since we've been here. Can't be great without the greatness of others and that is definitely a fact with Kevin Patullo and I trust him with everything. Got a ton of trust and faith with him. He's awesome." per Nick Siriani. I would think this is enough if you add in the endorsement of Lurie and Howie

20 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

How can one be this delusional you don’t have 5 winning seasons make the playoffs every year, 2 NFC championships, 2 SB appearances and a SB win…. If your just this clueless HC that doesn’t have an environment for players to succeed in

He’s a highly competitive hard worker. Won the job because of the strong supporting cast of coaches he could bring. Players coach…in many areas. But you three keep propping him up solely based on what everybody else in our organization has accomplished overcoming his deficiencies. Our team has accomplished so very much. But you guys just keep False Stick Man propped up with the accomplishments everybody else gained while dealing with the HC inadequacies. Kind of works in a way. Seems like more of me just being Captain Obvious pointing out how much we’ve been developing our HC who was very green initially. I can’t really say what Siri’s ceiling is. Can he ever get there with the actual football X and O knowledge? Will he ever be capable of self scouting or adjusting? Have we hired enough people to develop and hand him a scheme on a platter he can use going forward? Or is he always going to be completely reliant on others for all those areas?

20 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

How can one be this delusional you don’t have 5 winning seasons make the playoffs every year, 2 NFC championships, 2 SB appearances and a SB win…. If your just this clueless HC that doesn’t have an environment for players to succeed in

Let’s just start with year one first. How was Siri so responsible for us making the playoffs in 2021? Team came out of TC way behind. Started 2-5 until he got out of the way so Steichen could carry him. Had Gannon running the D on his own. Everything screaming out how much Siri was a hinderance. That’s before getting into all about his choices on developing our franchise QB he was slipping by short cutting everything.

19 hours ago, joemas6 said:

He likes the genius O mind that was fired from Houston .... btw, did that guy get a job?

Of course he did. No doubt there has to be a balance. Got be a competitive driven people person and also have football knowledge. I’m not unlocking anything new about how it’s understood how the most difficult thing to find is the brilliant O minded coach. That’s why for so many decades straight those guys overwhelmingly are the guys being hired as HC. Makes things so much simpler if everybody just deals with reality…instead of propping up bogus falsehoods.

43 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You clearly know I was talking about since Siri took over. Why are you even trying to stretch everything always into what you know I was never saying?

Siri has been here 4 seasons.... Steichen for 2...Moore for the last one.

Doug for 5 years before that.

So clearly to me ...one season with one guy stands out. That is the long time family friend brought in to babysit the QB.

Idk... I would think most people would view a comment like yours " light years ahead of what we had in years" would mean years...like plural... obviously that would be viewed as a shot at Steichen and Doug.

But I agree .... Steichen, Doug, Moore...light years ahead of Brian Johnson. 💯

44 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You said Hurts couldn’t read a D. Then BOOM….first season he was actually given a chance….and under Moore…he does. What a miracle! Amazing how much actually getting in the playcall with any time left on the playclock gives a QB time to look over a D. I’m sure you just believe it’s a total coincidence that stepping up to actual pro O by using motion aids a QB reading the D.

Boom....you called it right away! 🙄

35 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Strike one trying to explain any reason he earned the promotion.

Because the people who just won a Superbowl hired him.

Just now, joemas6 said:

Siri has been here 4 seasons.... Steichen for 2...Moore for the last one.

Doug for 5 years before that.

So clearly to me ...one season with one guy stands out. That is the long time family friend brought in to babysit the QB.

Idk... I would think most people would view a comment like yours " light years ahead of what we had in years" would mean years...like plural... obviously that would be viewed as a shot at Steichen and Doug.

But I agree .... Steichen, Doug, Moore...light years ahead of Brian Johnson. 💯

What stands out is that every time we see dominant Siri control over the O. His career starting out like total garbage when he was doing that. Everything exactly the same immediately flourished the moment it was taken from Siri’s control handed over to just a decent level OC in Steichen leaves and Siri was running things. Your BS argument about Johnson I don’t think anybody believes he was running much of anything. Then we bring in just another decent tier level OC…booyahh…we see massive upward movement across the entire O.

Things are that extreme proving how much Siri has hindered this team so far. Everything exactly moment we just get from any qualified(not O genius level at all)O coach our team flourishes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jalen-hurts-snubs-donald-trump-as-eagles-quarterback-rejects-super-bowl-winners-white-house-visit/ar-AA1DMXVe?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=8cf5f6616137430adc1dce5bdb6f0c2b&ei=21 Hurts can blow it out his ass. I just lost my respect for this POS

It's comical. 4 seasons, 2 SB appearances....a BS field away from 2 SB wins... beating " gotta doo bed her job dare" 3 times in a row.

3 different OCs...4 different DCs...

Winning culture.

But yet complaints? Constant complaints. Dude with a much better and longer resume than both Andy and Doug coming into the job.

Neither one of those guys could rebuild a coaching staff after losing their initial guys.

OMG...we gotta trade our WR because he wore a belt and had a book. The coached yelled back at a Giants fan who interrupted his meal with his family. Gotta fire him!

Just genius takes. Best season ever , most enjoyable to watch...complaints all season. But 2021 was so enjoyable? 🤦

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What stands out is that every time we see dominant Siri control over the O. His career starting out like total garbage when he was doing that. Everything exactly the same immediately flourished the moment it was taken from Siri’s control handed over to just a decent level OC in Steichen leaves and Siri was running things. Your BS argument about Johnson I don’t think anybody believes he was running much of anything. Then we bring in just another decent tier level OC…booyahh…we see massive upward movement across the entire O.

What stands out...is 2023 idea of getting a comp pick...and that's why they hired the OC who wasn't good enough

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Things are that extreme proving how much Siri has hindered this team so far. Everything exactly moment we just get from any qualified(not O genius level at all)O coach our team flourishes.

Just the worst 4 years in franchise history.

19 hours ago, joemas6 said:

You guys continue to engage...lol

It anybody make a reasonable contrary argument or case. We have a large enough proven historical sample now. Not sure what the heck you three have been watching while I’m watching Eagles football. Thing is…you aren’t ever going to get what’s happening if you completely turn a blind eye to the past. Best case scenario is we’ve been developing Siri as a HC and he now has been given all the basic tools he needs to thrive. No way you can appreciate any of this….if you actually think we’ve been overachieving based on his brilliance coaching so far. We’ve been underachieving is what you’re missing. I know….Hurts willed us to the playoffs along with so many other strong character competitive players Rosie has assembled under ideal ownership from Lurie. Siri started us off so far despite in the hole. Not just record of 2-5. Way behind coming out of TC. Criminally wasn’t focused on developing our franchise QB. No other place on the planet any coach gets away with that. Garbage nonexistent scheme. All that Steichen had to overcome with our guys. Moment he leaves…all you see is a smaller sample size of what Steichen showed Siri. Siri’s obsession over big plays being the biggest factor in games completely took over. Give me a break with Johnson blaming. Rumors leaked out everywhere doubting Johnson was running the O. Our organization keeps leaks as tight as any team around at that. Rewatch 2023 season. Be very educational for you to view things with a completely new understanding of everything going on. Our O was relying on Hurts and all our ideal O players to make everything happen. Commentators telling you flat out….”I don’t know what the playcall will be this next play….but it will be Hurts escaping the pressure to buy enough time for AJ or Smitty to get open downfield.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Just the worst 4 years in franchise history.

Nothing like that. So many great things going on with our franchise otherwise. But yeah…sure easy to point at results accomplished as fantastic. That’s as long as you leave out any context or details. Holes pop up everywhere if you actually consider any of that in propping up Siri for our teams success. Heck…I thought it was just so obvious that a first time young HC never even been running his own O was green. How could you actually believe he wasn’t? Not any idea how you got there. He’s been an issue being overcome in so many important facets of his job. So clearly been developing our HC just like so many players. Don’t even know what else to say. Just feel like I keep repeating such very fundamentally basic Captain Obvious statements. Some how…once again….I’m completely alone against the mob here…debating endlessly about what doesn’t even feel like a debatable subject matter.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Nothing like that. So many great things going on with our franchise otherwise. But yeah…sure easy to point at results accomplished as fantastic. That’s as long as you leave out any context or details. Holes pop up everywhere if you actually consider any of that in propping up Siri for our teams success. Heck…I thought it was just so obvious that a first time young HC never even been running his own O was green. How could you actually believe he wasn’t? Not any idea how you got there. He’s been an issue being overcome in so many important facets of his job. So clearly been developing our HC just like so many players. Don’t even know what else to say. Just feel like I keep repeating such very fundamentally basic Captain Obvious statements. Some how…once again….I’m completely alone against the mob here…debating endlessly about what doesn’t even feel like a debatable subject matter.

Is there any possibilities that maybe…just maybe…we could have developed quicker and had even better results with a different HC? What Moore came in and did in one season accomplished more than Siri had the other years all combined. How much should we all be able to understand has proven out now was our O being held back by Siri short term decisions? Most I would believe anywhere else but here….would be pissed off that he short cutter our O so bad the whole time. Basic fundamental organizational items all common knowledge and thinking. A pro scheme. Develop the franchise Qb and O. Sure it’s not easy to begin a HC career doing the groundwork that’s best for the franchise instead of short term personal motivations.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Is there any possibilities that maybe…just maybe…we could have developed quicker and had even better results with a different HC? What Moore came in and did in one season accomplished more than Siri had the other years all combined. How much should we all be able to understand has proven out now was our O being held back by Siri short term decisions? Most I would believe anywhere else but here….would be pissed off that he short cutter our O so bad the whole time. Basic fundamental organizational items all common knowledge and thinking. A pro scheme. Develop the franchise Qb and O. Sure it’s not easy to begin a HC career doing the groundwork that’s best for the franchise instead of short term personal motivations.

Shouldn’t have taken so long. Skipped over just because it wasn’t going to be completed in Siri’s first TC. Pisses me off. But…bright side is we survived it to get to this point. Won it all…and looking up going forward. Siri is so much further developed today than first TC. Captain Obvious strikes again!

That’s why it’s just so unbelievable Hurts survived 2021. Who else could have?He wasn’t setup for success at all. He wasn’t ready either. Been different for a very experienced vet in that situation. Coach wasn’t treating him like the franchise QB. Every educated guessing points at Rosie devoting so much time scouting Pickett in a terrible devoid draft class to succeed him. Rosie actually trading for Pickett comes as close to proving he would have gone big towards drafting him if not for Hurts impossible overachieving everything.

That’s how thin the line was between our organization completely sucking and rising to such great heights.

Let’s just actually consider events unfolding if Hurts didn’t do the impossible that 2021 season. He doesn’t work out with AJ that offseason convincing him to cease negotiations with the Titans being guaranteed his payday awaited him in Philly. We complete waste high resources on Pickett to be our franchise QB. That’s instead of the huge gains we used all that for instead….we don’t get all that crucial talent added…instead go backwards investing so poorly towards Pickett. Clearly don’t go to the SB in 2022 gaining that so crucial experience against the exact opponent we have to face achieving our glory this last season.

Complete franchise altering crossroad moment and situation. GM, coaches…nobody survives with us. Instead of terrible and fired….everybody rose to considered elite levels at their jobs.