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After completing 71.3 percent of his passes in Super Bowl LVII and 77.3 percent Sunday in Super Bowl LIX, Hurts is now the most accurate passer in Super Bowl history with a 73.3 career completion percentage

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Now I need to post a correction..Hurts ran for 70 yards. So it wasn’t all throwing. Which adds to the rushing attempt stats you provided earlier. I don’t really care as long as he gets it done. Throw or pass…convert…score…win!

Hurts now has five career postseason games where he’s completed at least 70 percent of his passes. Only five quarterbacks in history have had more –

Felt like it was needed to highlight some of Hurts absolutely all time NFL elite postseason numbers. Not just saying he’s the Eagles best ever QB….he’s putting up historical performances on the biggest stages.

Even with his interception Sunday, Hurts has just three career interceptions in 256 career postseason pass attempts. His average of one INT every 85.3 attempts is 10th-highest in NFL history (minimum 100 postseason pass attempts). 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Even with his interception Sunday, Hurts has just three career interceptions in 256 career postseason pass attempts. His average of one INT every 85.3 attempts is 10th-highest in NFL history (minimum 100 postseason pass attempts). 

Throw this data out there for No MAs and FL. Because you know…they insist we just need to cutout any chances Hurts will throw interceptions killing us in the postseason. He’s just proven to be so horrible at doing that….or? He’s top ten ever best at not doing it when it matters. Facts and stats sure poke massive holes in all these #HurtHate theories. Try and come up with new different ones once again this next season. Every season you attempt to tear him down for new different reasons.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

In the entire game how many obvious passing situations did the the Eagles face?

It wasn’t just Spags stacking the box to stop Barkley, but also emasculating the pass rush by playing the run first and only rushing the passer after practicing run D discipline. With AJ and DeVonta seeing one on one coverage, easy completions kept the Eagles out of 3rd and long situations for the most part.

I already detailed gone through this. Sorry you missed it. But yes…play by play backs up majority of Hurts playmaking occurring being behind in down and distance. I did misspeak …which I owe apologies for. He ran for over 70 yards to convert several of those situations as well. Feel like run or pass from Hurts isn’t taking away from any of our points of discussion though. Relied on Hurts to convert and extend all our drives mostly from …not like you softest being ideal circumstances from Barkley….but the opposite.

45 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Moore didn’t create the scheme. Stoutland did. It will continue to be Stoutland’s scheme.

Moore created the high risk scheme deployed prior to the Bye.

Stout has his blocking scheme. Every coach builds from that working with him. That is accurate. But scheme goes too far. Stout doesn’t go all that far. Moore was hired under pretense he had complete O control. But that was clearly a lie to hire him. Rosie and Lurie I do believe intended that. But….very easily could have been their brilliant scheme all along. Wouldn’t put it past them. Moore wouldn’t have come to be under Siri. Lurie and Rosie understood Moore fairly well. He faced us as division rival for years…then interviewed for our HC job losing out to Siri….only because of Siri’s assistant coaches he had in tow. Did Siri force his way on his own? What I thought. But really would have been brilliant plan if Rosie tricked Moore into accepting the job.

No OC will come work under Siri if it’s his O. Not like being an O mind working under McVay or something. That’s the dilemma I understand…which would lead me to believe Lurie and Rosie are way ahead of me knowing all this.

Feel like I need to point out Siri has so many great strengths. Not just trying to bash on him. Really believe he’s a good guy. I just don’t think X and O and football wisdoms are in his wheelhouse. Not really sure he can do the traditional fundamental job of coaching either. He’s a hard working super competitive players coach. Got balls to be aggressive. Think all those characteristics really feed through his players.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Documented? Where? Link to your source?

It really is to be appreciated just how much Moore did. It was said he had to keep Siri wording. Which if it was the brilliant plan all along of just having Moore to create Siri’s scheme makes all the sense. It was reasoned as keeping all the great plays been working in a successful O. But specifically referenced ease on players not having to learn all new names for similar plays they’ve been running for years now.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

It really is to be appreciated just how much Moore did. It was said he had to keep Siri wording. Which if it was the brilliant plan all along of just having Moore to create Siri’s scheme makes all the sense. It was reasoned as keeping all the great plays been working in a successful O. But specifically referenced ease on players not having to learn all new names for similar plays they’ve been running for years now.

I do remember Patullo was specifically identified as doing it with Moore. See Siri even stated he felt need to keep Patullo in place so he had some of his guys around still. Surrounded by coaches tied to Moore…obviously leads towards probable freezing out of Siri….heck…loss to the Browns would have resulted in full on mutiny.

Siri actually had self interest in our O not flourishing last season. Dialing stats back was completely in his own self interest. If Moore comes in one season and our O skyrockets? That clearly points out how much Siri was holding things back. Have three years of Siri stats with mostly same O players. Ended 2023 not even capable of punching through a wet paper bag. So if Siri allows Moore to unleash our O scoring 50 a game? Siri whole resume takes a huge hit.

Brilliant scheming just to trick Moore into creating a scheme for Siri? Just how out there conspiracy would you label this thought? Rosie and Lurie I can’t really put anything out of reach for them to so brilliantly get their needed goals accomplished. They got real public shouting out to every media how Siri was CEO and out from controlling the O. If…big if….this incredibly brilliant scheme actually was delibrately their plan? That’s exactly what you’d do. Bait in the top OC available with he’s completely in charge to do his thing if he chooses to come. Once hired? What can anybody do then? You stuck for one season at that point.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How about our entire O players adjusting to the D playcall? How about just possibly running multiple differing plays from each formation and personnel grouping? I mean…dude…the list is so freakin’ extensive to even attempt to dive into. Steichen was saddled running Siri’s "scheme”. But to me scheme actually means there is a rhyme and reason why everything happens. I saw none of that from Siri’s O. He got as far as bringing a playbook….an embarrassingly slim play variety at that. But it was just …here’s the play…run it…reads strictly always as written. Like….pee wee level stuff. It was bad….not like hey….it’s not yet a masterpiece….like…X and Os isn’t his area.

Have you ever heard of the expression "less is more”?

Vince Lombardi famously had a very similarly slim playbook. Lombardi’s Packers consistently won because their execution of that slim playbook was near flawless. They said to the opposing Defense, "You know what is coming. Try and stop us!”

Your expressed desire for complexity is a product of Madden/Playstation. Complexity increases risk. Why take on additional risk when your aggregate margin of victory over 13 games is 170 points. Winning by more than 13 points per game gains you nothing in the League Standings. As Lombardi said, "Winning isn’t the most important thing … it is the ONLY thing!”

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I take pride in our collection of such quality people possessing such key intangibles. Believe this is very key to what success we’ve achieved. Really relied on it overcoming just so much.

Can you please repeat that in English?

Once hired to run our O….oh well…actually be better for our players if we keep the same language. Instead of we need you to create Siris scheme for him.

Believe TC Moore was in charge developing the O. But I questioned starting even week two noticing Siri pulling back some of the O. Then week three even more. Bye week a total evaluation to fix and improve the newly created O. Wasn’t until like Pittsburgh game we finally really saw Moore O additions really on display. Which turned out to be about the last possible minute…considering Hurts injury and season timeline.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But…guess I don’t understand what you’re telling me. So will take your advice under consideration believing it being shared for my benefit.

Since you didn’t understand let me say it again a different way. Specifically, your words "I’m not sure what No Mas is trying to even pin on me about that AJ book sideline situation” are just your paranoia talking. If you start each day looking to have something "pinned on you” you will be saddled with very low expectations rather than high aspirations.

I really think I figured it out. Those brilliant **** running our organization. I actually believe they identified what they needed and came up with a devious plan to execute what was needed. They yelled to the rooftops OC job has complete control of O. Now I think about it…they wouldn’t even operate talking like that otherwise. Siri scheme….was no scheme. Tricked exactly Kellen Moore for that task so crucially needed. Never just admitting hey…could you build an O for the guy we hired instead of you to be HC.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok so…did we just abandon the run, like we did the previous SB when flag took RBs off the field often even? Or did we actually just stick with handing off to Barkley for 2 yards a carry the whole way? Try and just calculate any math equations where we keep going to Saquan only gaining two yards where we aren’t behind the chains of down and distance. I went through the play logs even awhile ago. Evidence points to the facts were Hurts was forced to throw on obvious passing situations. So I get it…Spags focused on stopping Barkley. This is true…but he was successful…and we stuck with it. It’s actually mathematically impossible for your opinion to actually have happened really. You can’t stick to handing off only gaining two yards the entire time and be in anything but putting more pressure on Hurts in known passing situations.

As I said, the data will show that the 45 runs to 25 passes ratio produced 33 points on the scoreboard in only 37 minutes of game clock.

5 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Since you didn’t understand let me say it again a different way. Specifically, your words "I’m not sure what No Mas is trying to even pin on me about that AJ book sideline situation” are just your paranoia talking. If you start each day looking to have something "pinned on you” you will be saddled with very low expectations rather than high aspirations.

Didn’t he some how connect me negatively saying I was wanting AJ kicked off the team over it? Or something to that effect.

59 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

After completing 71.3 percent of his passes in Super Bowl LVII and 77.3 percent Sunday in Super Bowl LIX, Hurts is now the most accurate passer in Super Bowl history with a 73.3 career completion percentage

That is all good. Looking forward to SB LX

Look…AJ was clearly getting frustrated with the don’t pass much plan. He went along more than almost any other WR would. But …he showed the most signs of cracking over Smitty and Hurts.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Didn’t he some how connect me negatively saying I was wanting AJ kicked off the team over it? Or something to that effect.

The fact that you include the word "somehow” is textbook evidence of your paranoia. You are very busy looking for demons.

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