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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We’ve been a completely dominant rushing team for years now. Saquan was the 2nd overall draft pick. Took until the SB for any pro coaches to figure out the Offensive Player of the Year was playing well. That no name RB for such an unexpected rushing O team.

LMAO no what it took was a move from NY who had NO OLINE and moving him to a team that DID(us)

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

No he does NOT, why do you think he handed to O over to Moore???? Very smart thing to do. You can't have 2 people doing it or things go south

To keep his job….that was the agreement Lurie and Rosie forced on him. Yet….did he really even do it actually? I believe Siri was still very hands on the O this last season. Especially we all(everybody but you) know Siri controlled our scripted gameplan each week. Worst first quarter scoring team in the entire league. Shameful! Pathetic! That O….Siri bogged all that talent down to be the worst in the first quarter league wide.

Positive is look how well our O did the rest of the time once they got away from Siri’s beginnings…kicked serious butt mostly!

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO no what it took was a move from NY who had NO OLINE and moving him to a team that DID(us)

I don’t even know what the heck you are talking about. Pretty sure every coach has been very very aware of who Saquan was his entire career. Spags wasn’t the first to figured this out just in this last SB game.

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13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Saquan has very routinely faced loaded box situations. Absolutely nothing new invented by Spags for the SB. Thing is….Barkley was killing teams loading the box against him. You stack everybody in there…he found a crease and….see you later…50,60,70 yard TDs resulted all season…until he choked in the SB. Is what it is.

UH would you NOT expect your SB competitor to be one of the best? Isn't that why they got there?? Teams are not picked at random, so you'd think KC was pretty good on both sides of the ball? Bark could have gone off but who cares? The PLAN was to keep them IN THE BOX so other assets could be used and burn the clock with a big lead. This is simple coaching here and somehow it astounds you LOL. I don't care if Bark got .5 YPC, the plan was to keep Mahomes off the field 2 YPC leaves you with 4th and 4 and Hurts can convert those short passes(aka playing to your QB's strengths) ROCKET SCIENCE

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

You forgot the key piece... which was mentioned by every expert who analyzed the game, and admitted by Spags.... the focus on Barkley slowed the pass rush. Also left some of the coverage schemes vulnerable.

Great point!

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yes it's always someone or something elses fault. No one on our team ever played or practiced in 90 degree heat? Maybe we need to turn up the thermostat in the practice hut. Miami has to play in the teens in Seattle or Green bay ,so????? As a player you learn to COPE. In the pass rush example why didn't Hurts just throw the ball away?????

Yeah it was just Hurts….every other Eagle was playing fantastic that day. Even all the key injured guys didn’t suit up….especially them.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

UH would you NOT expect your SB competitor to be one of the best? Isn't that why they got there?? Teams are not picked at random, so you'd think KC was pretty good on both sides of the ball? Bark could have gone off but who cares? The PLAN was to keep them IN THE BOX so other assets could be used and burn the clock with a big lead. This is simple coaching here and somehow it astounds you LOL. I don't care if bark got .5 YPC, the plan was to keep Mahomes off the field 2 YPC leaves you with 4th and 4 and Hurts can convert those shot passes(aka playing to your QB's strengths) ROCKET SCIENCE

Aren’t you actually the guy that kept trying to weaken our SB victory claiming the Chiefs weren’t a good team?

Great math by the way….4th and 4 from your own 30 would always be such an easy conversion with no pressure at all. Brilliant!

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20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You having dreams about Archie Manning as an Eagles?

We can't allow him to get married, that needs to be written into contracts. Hurts got married so we're going 2-15 this year

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

You gotta take a trip to planet Ham so you can understand all things that aren't existing on earth and be able to see in the 4th dimension.

While this comment definitely brought a smile to my face, it also perpetuates the viscous polarized cycle that y’all are in. It is like Trump and Biden. The zingers don’t chart the path to a less polarized middle ground.

JMO

16 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The TB game, they also stopped the tush push. We had no WR's, I didn;t expect to win but there is still no excuse for bonehead plays. We play TB again. I guess we should just call them and forfeit

I knew we weren’t going to win way before that game began. I even Went so far as to suggest we just take the L and rest our starters not already missing.

But you are right….Hurts was all too blame!

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4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah it was just Hurts….every other Eagle was playing fantastic that day. Even all the key injured guys didn’t suit up….especially them.

So the fact we were missing key players means the QB can make bonehead plays because there is a built in excuse?

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10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

To keep his job….that was the agreement Lurie and Rosie forced on him. Yet….did he really even do it actually? I believe Siri was still very hands on the O this last season. Especially we all(everybody but you) know Siri controlled our scripted gameplan each week. Worst first quarter scoring team in the entire league. Shameful! Pathetic! That O….Siri bogged all that talent down to be the worst in the first quarter league wide.

Winningest coach in franchise history

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8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t even know what the heck you are talking about. Pretty sure every coach has been very very aware of who Saquan was his entire career. Spags wasn’t the first to figured this out just in this last SB game.

You can't even recall your own posts?

6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Great point!

That pass rush was completely focused on Barkley on those very obvious forced passing situations we faced after sticking with 2 yard Barkley rushes previously.

Chiefs played run D to stop Barkley…which they did. Then after that came? Could it be passing situation downs? How is the pass rush slowed down on obvious passing downs?

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35 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oh…he was the first coach to realize the greatest rushing season ever was occurring from Saquan with us? Oh of course. Every other DC Barkley just surprised them proving to just be some pretty good RB they didn’t see coming.

This wasn't because we offered Bark an OLINE he never had in NY?

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

But AJ made the correct observation and it upset Ham... he wanted him off the team for wearing something and reading a book. All the dumb stuff that has zero to do with football.

AJ reading the book … especially given the subject of the book … had a good tension defusing effect on the team. It is good to laugh and have a bit of fun, especially when that fun is at the expense of the talking heads of the media. Otherwise that game had the likelihood of becoming a "trap game” loss.

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So the fact we were missing key players means the QB can make bonehead plays because there is a built in excuse?

Sure just blame Hurts for it all

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That pass rush was completely focused on Barkley on those very obvious forced passing situations we faced after sticking with 2 yard Barkley rushes previously.

Chiefs played run D to stop Barkley…which they did. Then after that came? Could it be passing situation downs? How is the pass rush slowed down on obvious passing downs?

Because Barkley(Gains) is a passing game weapon out of the backfield????

FL you actually are your opinion that you don’t find it as an obvious conclusion that Hurts struggled to find WR to pass to without his top WR present that day? Best Oline out also…also it was like 90 degrees. But sure….that game was the clincher thaf Hurts can’t handle running Moore’s O. Clearly the game to place greatest weight towards defining everything.

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Chiefs played run D to stop Barkley

Great game plan, set them up perfectly. After the D kicked in on DeJeans pick 6,they had nothing. We took the game over, let Bark get his 2 YPC and burned the clock away, Let Hurts play relaxed with no pressure. Worked perfectly

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I was actually just pointing out what an enormous boost Moore provided us by just getting the play in with time left on the playclock and utilizing motion. Then so completely magically the whole O could read the D so much better. It was a miracle! Or just finally providing an actual pro level O.

This comment of yours has blinders on. What was it about the 2022 Offense that was not "providing an actual pro level O”?

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It was directly said in a presser from the horses mouth. Fact

Link to the presser where it was said that "Siri walked back that idea almost immediately after Moore was hired.” What date? Whose presser? I’ll be glad to chase it down.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

FL you actually are your opinion that you don’t find it as an obvious conclusion that Hurts struggled to find WR to pass to without his top WR present that day? Best Oline out also…also it was like 90 degrees. But sure….that game was the clincher thaf Hurts can’t handle running Moore’s O. Clearly the game to place greatest weight towards defining everything.

LMAO ,so that gives him an excuse to run backwards for 14 YARDS and take the sack anyway? He could not have thrown the ball away in 8 seconds? Really? Then just wing the ball away on another play for the pick? So we lose, but still you can play better than that. You can't make rookie mistakes like that no matter how bad the game is, you just put your team in a bigger hole. if you are burying yourself. stop digging. Hurts played awful that game,stop the excuses, he contributed to the TB romp

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8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure just blame Hurts for it all

Not all,but he had his share

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