41 minutes ago, mattwill said:

That is your opinion. Opinions are like a-holes. Everyone has one. You have every right to your opinion. You have no evidence to support that opinion as fact, so it remains as only an opinion.

Here is the link to support Ham's post ...

Great read

41 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

All evidence supports this fact unlike your blind eye feigning Siri is hands off the O

Here is the link showing all the negative stuff that happened was Siri’s influence and then when things went well...it was all Moore....

Great read

42 minutes ago, mattwill said:

No evidence. Only conjecture.

Can you provide any video or eyewitness account?

Right here....

Great camera work here.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why would you not run plays with specific plans for success…attempting to beat what you are expecting to see? You guys working from two feet in the hole. You shoot for early success being achieved at after successful opponent film study preparations.

You know…do your job well actually paying off. The simple ..easy…most obvious explanation.

What are you "expecting to see" You see what they did vs teams other than our own. Each team is different. The players change YoY. You need to see what they are running again YOU,right NOW not what they did last week against someone else

31 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So when the ball is handed to Bark how many GUARANTEED yards should he get? I mean call the plays. Every time Bark gets a hand off he should run for______________________ fill in the blank. I'll wait

Still waiting

39 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

2nd and 3rd and 11s results after Barkley:

How can you say with a straight face Spags was selling out against the run there?

How can you explain it being a gifted easier situation just setting Hurts up for easier conversions?

So... you don't see Spags selling out to stop the run on 1st and 10... you know...which led to 2nd and 11???

Really?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

So... you don't see Spags selling out to stop the run on 1st and 10... you know...which led to 2nd and 11???

Really?

He had to stack the box because Hurts can take off at any time too

44 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually broke down the entire SB game already once. Came back now repeating efforts…yet laid out the first two series to begin the game. Not cherry picking one…at all. Started from the beggining …to see if anybody can actually backup there conclusion of bad Barkley production actually created a change making things so much easier for the rest of our players.

Still waiting….

You didn't do any breakdown... Matt provided the actual plays ad it happened.

Your breakdown isn't facts...it's whatever they showed on your planet which doesn't jive with the actual play log at all.

Again...instead of 65 posts in a row...with left field theories and spin. Save all that time and just go to the game log. Takes a few seconds.

41 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But hold on…I have to waste time digging up MattyWill’s post …and me just quoting him from memory accurately isn’t enough…since own statements aren’t just being owned and admitted….my time must be utilized proving that instead of any of this other stuff…please hold

OMG... those precious 13 seconds of presenting facts...instead of all the time you waste with the left field monologs?

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

The 9 yard gain was a quick 5 yard pass to Smith on 3rd and 8.... where Smith caught it and backpedalled to an easy first down...whistle blew without him even hitting the ground. A 5 yard hitch in the slot

Different play. The 9 yard play I’m talking about was Hurts’ scramble.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why would you not run plays with specific plans for success…attempting to beat what you are expecting to see? You guys working from two feet in the hole. You shoot for early success being achieved at after successful opponent film study preparations.

You know…do your job well actually paying off. The simple ..easy…most obvious explanation.

Which is more important, getting a score on the first drive or learning whether the opponent has used the week to come up with a game plan specific to the Eagles that is different than the game plans that they have deployed against other teams. Those game plans against the other teams will be what you see on film. You won’t see anything on film about the new game plan specific to the Eagles that the opponent has devised. The only way to know what the opponents game plan is is to test it.

9 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Different play. The 9 yard play I’m talking about was Hurts’ scramble.

So not the first out of the only 2 conversions of 3rd and long that were made in the Superbowl.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

Yes, it is a testament to Hurts ability to transform his failure on any play into a positive outcome. That , like the tush push is one of his greatest strengths.

2nd and 11…the first scoring drive of the game. Pass rush wasn’t slowed expecting run. Blitz…expecting pass…in a situation can only be described as made more difficult after Barkley touched the ball. Just more Hurts failure indeed!

The majority D Spags deployed all season was Man coverage/single high S also known as Cover 1. So you can point towards because of Barkley Spags called that D…or because they played on a football field that was green. Either would be accurate.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Huge gain of 9 yards... lol

It was just part of the over 70 yards Hurts rushed for

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So when the ball is handed to Bark how many GUARANTEED yards should he get? I mean call the plays. Every time Bark gets a hand off he should run for______________________ fill in the blank. I'll wait

That is an interesting question. I also think it’s a slightly irrelevant question. The reason that Barkley has the incredibly high yards per carry is not because each carry is exceeding a minimum threshold like you’re asking for but rather it is the 60 and 70 yard runs and even shorter ones like 50 40 30, and 20 that bump up his average carry is. Then look at his median carry the median is going to be significantly lower than the average because there are many many low yardage runs, but only a few high yardage runs, but the high yardage runs affect the average significantly.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Huge gain of 9 yards... lol

How many players have a career Super Bowl rushing average higher than Jalen Hurts? Just one. Laugh it up all you wish while attempting to tear down our leaders greatness.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It was just part of the over 70 yards Hurts rushed for

That is correct. Over 70 yards total. How many of those yards were in the first half and how many of those yards were when the game was on the line versus yards that were realized once the game was out of reach for the Chiefs?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How many players have a career Super Bowl rushing average higher than Jalen Hurts? Just one. Laugh it up all you wish while attempting to tear down our leaders greatness.

Why is that relevant? You keep treating football as a individual sport rather than the team sport that it is.

Were the yards that Hurts ran for in Super Bowl 57 enough yards for the team to win?

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The majority D Spags deployed all season was Man coverage/single high S also known as Cover 1. So you can point towards because of Barkley Spags called that D…or because they played on a football field that was green. Either would be accurate.

You just did in the comment above an excellent job of explaining why scripts are used at the beginning of a game by the offensive coordinator. As you noted above, Spags used the cover one safety high approach in all of his games or virtually all of his games during the season. He probably used that defense in the playoffs as well. However, that was not the defensive scheme that he deployed in the Super Bowl, so any and all film of the Chiefs defense during the season would not have shown more. What an eight in the box Spags defensive scheme look like. Therefore, he ran the script to test and see what that scheme was going to look like actually deployed on the field

5 minutes ago, mattwill said:

That is correct. Over 70 yards total. How many of those yards were in the first half and how many of those yards were when the game was on the line versus yards that were realized once the game was out of reach for the Chiefs?

Uhmmm…he was pulled from the game…unlike when Mahomes put up his positive stats

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

It is incredibly easy to say that with a straight face. Why was Saquon only able to get 4 yards? The answer is simple because bags sold out against the run and put eight in the box. Why was the screenplay to Barkley from Hertz unsuccessful? Because spas played in the box and a screenplay against eight in the box is going to be a heavy lift. Moore knew that and that’s why he designed that play into the script. So that he could see how Kansas City was deploying against screens. That would tell him how he was going to be able to use screens if at all later in the game.

Yep ..your opinion of we purposely took such a gifted O and meant to be the least scoring team just rings of such accuracy.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yep ..your opinion of we purposely took such a gifted O and meant to be the least scoring team just rings of such accuracy.

Instead of how the talented coaches ..if nothing else…their initial script works for a score even if they struggle the rest of the day. All that film study to predict how the D plays you so you can call the worst plays to be successful. That’s how every team puts in all that work each week to come up with that.

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

2nd and 11…the first scoring drive of the game. Pass rush wasn’t slowed expecting run. Blitz…expecting pass…in a situation can only be described as made more difficult after Barkley touched the ball. Just more Hurts failure indeed!

When I get home, I will check the All 22 for that play. I suspect that there was no blitz. It is almost impossible to blitz from eight in the box to blitz with eight in the box. You would have to have one of the 3-D’s blitzing and have someone from the eight in the box dropping back into coverage and I doubt that the Chiefs did that. But the play will show what it was. In any case when you have what you describe as a blitz the key for the quarterback is to hit the hot read. Obviously Hurts did not hit the hot read in this play because he was forced to scramble.

We worked really hard …and meant to be the worst O out of everyone…to gain that advantage. Just like the advantage given to Hurts in those unfavorable down and distance situations.