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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sometimes you want something so bad you try too hard and if it's not going your way, you can easily get bothered to the point of performing WORSE. Not saying this happened with Bark, but it was the most important game of his life to that point

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It’s not choking to suggest Siri doesn’t control scripted gameplanning…it’s just feigning ignorance amongst knowledgable fans all very aware otherwise

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Obviously we won the SB after he faced consistent difficult situations. 2nd and 3rd and 11s he overcame just the first two drives. Still waiting for how anybody sticks by belief those downs were situations Hurts benefited from bad Saquan production previously. Or how they actually believe Spags was selling out expecting run with his playcall.

The play by play doesn’t support your bolded statement. In the first drive he did face a 3rd and 11 after Hurts’ failed screen to Barkley lost 4 yards, but no 1st down was accomplished. And in the second drive the only 3rd down was 3rd and 5.

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38 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Same question to you as I asked Ham. How do you define Choke. For me, Hurts SB LVII performance was anything but a choke. It was outstanding.

I never said Hurts choked in the SB, he did the last one with the drop for 6. After the playoff run we were all on the same page, it was a well oiled machine. I made alot of loot telling everyone "KC is running into a buzz saw". They laughed and laughed until I took their money LOL

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sometimes you want something so bad you try too hard and if it's not going your way, you can easily get bothered to the point of performing WORSE. Not saying this happened with Bark, but it was the most important game of his life to that point

Why aren’t you saying this is what happened? What else happened? Oh wait…it was the first game any DC was actually aware of who Saquan Barkley was and how good our OLine could run block. That’s the official take reigning supreme seemingly around here

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s not choking to suggest Siri doesn’t control scripted gameplanning…it’s just feigning ignorance amongst knowledgable fans all very aware otherwise

Moore created the script every game. He then reviewed the script with Sirianni and Stoutland and Hurts.

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9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Obviously we won the SB after he faced consistent difficult situations. 2nd and 3rd and 11s he overcame just the first two drives. Still waiting for how anybody sticks by belief those downs were situations Hurts benefited from bad Saquan production previously. Or how they actually believe Spags was selling out expecting run with his playcall.

It's his job as QB to make 11 yard passes??? is that too far????? For 55 million I expect my QB to make an occaisional 11 yard pass 🤣

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

The play by play doesn’t support your bolded statement. In the first drive he did face a 3rd and 11 after Hurts’ failed screen to Barkley lost 4 yards, but no 1st down was accomplished. And in the second drive the only 3rd down was 3rd and 5.

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Yes…Hurts was placed in a difficult situation…he did pickup a huge gain of like 9 yards. Which enabled going for it on fourth down. Hurts absolutely drilled AJ to complete that conversion. The flag denying us…had zero to do with Hurts performance.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I never said Hurts choked in the SB, he did the last one with the drop for 6. After the playoff run we were all on the same page, it was a well oiled machine. I made alot of loot telling everyone "KC is running into a buzz saw. They laughed and laughed until I took their money LOL

You and I disagree about SB LVII. Hurts performance in that game was far from a choke. The fumble was indeed a bad play but it was only a single play in a long list of Hurts plays that day, and the sum total of his play for the day was MVP worthy, not a choke.

JMO

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I never said Hurts choked in the SB, he did the last one with the drop for 6. After the playoff run we were all on the same page, it was a well oiled machine. I made alot of loot telling everyone "KC is running into a buzz saw". They laughed and laughed until I took their money LOL

Everybody unanimously agreed Hurts was the best player on the field the day…well except for you and No MAs. SB MVP Patrick Mahomes even realizing it credited Hurts with playing an exceptional game. But you stick with tore conclusion of it was a choke job…until you die apparently.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I never said Hurts choked in the SB, he did the last one with the drop for 6. After the playoff run we were all on the same page, it was a well oiled machine. I made alot of loot telling everyone "KC is running into a buzz saw". They laughed and laughed until I took their money LOL

Everybody unanimously agreed Hurts was the best player on the field that day…well except for you and No MAs. SB MVP Patrick Mahomes even realizing it credited Hurts with playing an exceptional game. But you stick with your conclusion of it was a choke job…until you die apparently.

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5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why aren’t you saying this is what happened? What else happened? Oh wait…it was the first game any DC was actually aware of who Saquan Barkley was and how good our OLine could run block. That’s the official take reigning supreme seemingly around here

Bark was an unknown? Despite being basically the gnats entire offense? Bark and the O line proved it all year long, but by the SB, this came as a complete SHOCK to AR??? Really??? Didn't AR or Spags watch a single Eagles game all year?

6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Moore created the script every game. He then reviewed the script with Sirianni and Stoutland and Hurts.

Moore will have just as much final say on the scripted gameplanning in Philly for 2025season as 2024.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes…Hurts was placed in a difficult situation…he did pickup a huge gain of like 9 yards. Which enabled going for it on fourth down. Hurts absolutely drilled AJ to complete that conversion. The flag denying us…had zero to do with Hurts performance.

What was the 9 yard gain? A broken play where Hurts couldn’t find an open receiver in the play as designed by Moore.

Hurts deserves credit for his scramble and the outcome of that scramble was good, but it fell short of the goal by 2 yards, and the scramble doesn’t change the fact that the execution of the play as designed was a failure.

But failed plays are part of the attraction of the game. The whole purpose of the Defense is to create failed plays by the Offense.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bark was an unknown? Despite being basically the gnats entire offense? Bark and the O line proved it all year long, but by the SB, this came as a complete SHOCK to AR??? Really??? Didn't AR or Spags watch a single Eagles game all year?

Go back to Penn St…high school even. Sneakiest number two overall draft pick evidently ever. But nope…everybody here keeps suggesting it wasn’t until Spags so uniquely masterminded figuring out Saquan’s a pretty good player.

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3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You and I disagree about SB LVII. Hurts performance in that game was far from a choke. The fumble was indeed a bad play but it was only a single play in a long list of Hurts plays that day, and the sum total of his play for the day was MVP worthy, not a choke.

JMO

It's as much of a choke as Ham is trying to say about Barkley. We led at the 1/2 by 10 and lost the game. Now you can site a bad field (but the field didn't change at the 1/2 it was bad all game), so we "choked" away a lead in that game

Just now, mattwill said:

What was the 9 yard gain? A broken play where Hurts couldn’t find an open receiver in the play as designed by Moore.

Hurts deserves credit for his scramble and the outcome of that scramble was good, but it fell short of the goal by 2 yards, and the scramble doesn’t change the fact that the execution of the play as designed was a failure.

But failed plays are part of the attraction of the game. The whole purpose of the Defense is to create failed plays by the Offense.

The nine yard gain was Hurts will powering our team forward out of a bad situation resulting from Barkley.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Moore will have just as much final say on the scripted gameplanning in Philly for 2025season as 2024.

That is your opinion. Opinions are like a-holes. Everyone has one. You have every right to your opinion. You have no evidence to support that opinion as fact, so it remains as only an opinion.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

The nine yard gain was Hurts will powering our team forward out of a bad situation resulting from Barkley.

Not easy like your opinion pretends

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19 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Obviously we won the SB after he faced consistent difficult situations. 2nd and 3rd and 11s he overcame just the first two drives. Still waiting for how anybody sticks by belief those downs were situations Hurts benefited from bad Saquan production previously. Or how they actually believe Spags was selling out expecting run with his playcall.

So what are you bishing about then? QB's face 3rd and longs many times. their job it to covert them. Not every run play is going to net you 8 yards LOL. You just cherry pick ONE play and just grind it into the ground until it becomes ridiculous. Hurts needs to be coddled then????? Never needs to face adversity. That's what makes you a better QB

Just now, mattwill said:

That is your opinion. Opinions are like a-holes. Everyone has one. You have every right to your opinion. You have no evidence to support that opinion as fact, so it remains as only an opinion.

All evidence supports this fact unlike your blind eye feigning Siri is hands off the O

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

The nine yard gain was Hurts will powering our team forward out of a bad situation resulting from Barkley.

Yes, it is a testament to Hurts ability to transform his failure on any play into a positive outcome. That , like the tush push is one of his greatest strengths.

14 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The play by play doesn’t support your bolded statement. In the first drive he did face a 3rd and 11 after Hurts’ failed screen to Barkley lost 4 yards, but no 1st down was accomplished. And in the second drive the only 3rd down was 3rd and 5.

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Easy there....you are going off script by presenting actual facts.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

All evidence supports this fact unlike your blind eye feigning Siri is hands off the O

No evidence. Only conjecture.

Can you provide any video or eyewitness account?

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13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes…Hurts was placed in a difficult situation…he did pickup a huge gain of like 9 yards. Which enabled going for it on fourth down. Hurts absolutely drilled AJ to complete that conversion. The flag denying us…had zero to do with Hurts performance.

Who bashed Hurts in this last SB? I didn't, matt didn't, Joe didn't, ASG didn't DWD didn't, so where is all this garbage coming from?

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