1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Best first choice option in the NFL last season. Who needs a reason other than that to give that guy the ball? This is softball cupcake easy argument for me to make. I’m actually the only one…by myself …on a football site…having to debate give the ball to the best option so long? Too easy.

But he choked, as you keep saying. His yardage was immaterial,it was the game plan for them to focus stopping Bark(which they did, and left them vulnerable to other things

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You guys belief of any coach would need plenty of other reasons to choose the most effective play. Coach only was forced to give the ball to the guy making pro athletes look foolish and consistently busting the most super long TDs…because of this or that. If not for those reasons(fill in the blank with your statements No Mas, FL and MattyWill) you’d never chose to do that. Can’t even believe Siri made Saquan our starter.

I'm glad I am not the bearings on your spin machine 🤣

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

I never said we chose to hand the ball off to avoid risk. You can’t find a single comment where I said that.

I have said over and over and over again that Lane Johnson and the O-Line went to Stoutland, and then they all went to Moore and Sirianni. Their message was clear. "we aren’t playing to our strengths. We need to play to our strengths more.” Moore and Sirianni agreed with their argument. The reduction of risk was a result of the change, not a reason for the change.

I tried(and failed) multiple times to explain this, finally gave up as usual. To expedite, I just called it the KISS offense LOL

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

I know it's not football related but Dallas just got the %1 NBA draft pick with a 1.8% chance of getting it

So lets see Luka goes to LA with Lebron ending his time in the league

You know the league needs a superstar in LA

In return Dallas gets the #1 pick in the draft

Can anyone say the fix is in?

They SO want Dallas to be home of "America's team", but dem boyz can't deliver, so let's try something else HAHAHA

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

-You have overthinking or Hurts attempted bashing by insinuating our QB flawed so much forcing us to give Saquan the ball.

Your paranoia is showing again. Lane and the O-Line weren’t Hurts bashing when they went to Stoutland. Stoutland wasn’t Hurts bashing when he and the O-Line went to Moore and Sirianni. And I’m not Hurts bashing by rehashing those facts. There is no need to get your panties in a wad.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

-You have Siri most clear obvious fingerprints of complete control were the scripted gameplan each week. Which is absolutely damning…the talent on our O actually was the worst first quarter scoring in the entire league. Even bad coaches should be capable of producing more than that with so much talent.

It is your OPINION about the fingerprints. There is no evidence of those fingerprints. Moore is the person who puts the scripted plays together, not Sirianni. All 32 teams use scripted plays, particularly in the first 15 plays of the game. Those scripts are designed to build confidence, exploit weaknesses, and gather information about how the defense will react to specific formations and plays. scoring points during those plays is secondary to intelligence gathering. It is a "pardon our dust” message that even though there is a lot of chaos, noise and dirt everywhere, something better is coming.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

-You have sticking with Saquan throughout even though he choked. I never even said I was against it.

Now who is bashing whom? Please explain to me how Saquon choked.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-balance-predicted-to-produce-massive-scoring-stats/ar-AA1EBI9f?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=f6557786124c4233f9556c1903f38b2a&ei=38

12 hours ago, mattwill said:

Ham, above is the point you made criticizing the decision to continue handing the ball off to Saquon. Do you deny you said it?

Yes I pointed out how there almost is not other math can be made if we stick with Saquan the whole time never producing….it really just leaves being in rough situations to overcome. I didn’t criticize the decision of giving Saquan the ball in the SB….what I did was call Saquan’s performance for what it was…A Choke!

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes I pointed out how there almost is not other math can be made if we stick with Saquan the whole time never producing….it really just leaves being in rough situations to overcome. I didn’t criticize the decision of giving Saquan the ball in the SB….what I did was call Saquan’s performance for what it was…A Choke!

I didn’t criticize the decision of the playcaller in the SB…I just pointed out the glaringly obvious results occurring. We kept going to Barkley even though he wasn’t predicting. That didn’t make anything easier for Hurts after that. Made it more challenging…contrary to your observation.

12 hours ago, mattwill said:

And yet just the day earlier you were criticizing Moore and Sirianni for handing the ball off to Saquon in the Super Bowl.

Is it clear to you that you were contradicting yourself?

Never criticized coaches to give Saquan the ball..again.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Never criticized coaches to give Saquan the ball..again.

Me pointing out the results being differing from what you guys are admitting Hurts contended with..is all I did

10 hours ago, mattwill said:

Your paranoia is showing again. Lane and the O-Line weren’t Hurts bashing when they went to Stoutland. Stoutland wasn’t Hurts bashing when he and the O-Line went to Moore and Sirianni. And I’m not Hurts bashing by rehashing those facts. There is no need to get your panties in a wad.

It is your OPINION about the fingerprints. There is no evidence of those fingerprints. Moore is the person who puts the scripted plays together, not Sirianni. All 32 teams use scripted plays, particularly in the first 15 plays of the game. Those scripts are designed to build confidence, exploit weaknesses, and gather information about how the defense will react to specific formations and plays. scoring points during those plays is secondary to intelligence gathering. It is a "pardon our dust” message that even though there is a lot of chaos, noise and dirt everywhere, something better is coming.

Now who is bashing whom? Please explain to me how Saquon choked.

False….no reason to believe Siri wasn’t being the final decision maker of each games scripted gameplan….he can’t even be stopped from doing so..obviously. But try other ways to turn a blind eye to the do very obvious.

Sure I’ll explain what else was so glaringly obvious. We had a RB never been in big game situations before. He faced stacked boxes of Ds focusing in on stopping him the entire time in college and the pros. The one day he keeps missing the holes to hit decisively being the SB. Definition of choking!

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure I’ll explain what else was so glaringly obvious. We had a RB never been in big game situations before. He faced stacked boxes of Ds focusing in on stopping him the entire time in college and the pros. The one day he keeps missing the holes to hit decisively being the SB. Definition of choking!

Here for all easy explanations. Guess when I get a minute need to go back and bring up the exact quote of your words….since that seems to have become a point of some contention from you and No Mas. Also not a real issue…just didn’t assume I was going g to be forced to bring up your own words quoted that I just from memory repeated.

Since it’s a need…being that your own statements aren’t being admitted and owned…I’ll prove it. Is what it is.

12 hours ago, mattwill said:

If all that is true, why were you arguing that the Super Bowl offensive game plan was horrible with Saquon only gaining an average of 2.8 yards per carry?

You have even used the expression over and over again that "Saquon choked.”

Saquan choking would not equate to being a bad coaching decision…it’s bad player performance. Two both can both exist

Hers a link to all the articles relating to DCs doubling the second and third WR along with TEs that don’t produce much receiving yardage:

Hope you enjoyed all that reading supporting your conclusion of why those guys faced single coverage in the SB.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hers a link to all the articles relating to DCs doubling the second and third WR along with TEs that don’t produce much receiving yardage:

Hope you enjoyed all that reading supporting your conclusion of why those guys faced single coverage in the SB.

If it wasn’t for Spags unusual focus towards the OPoY…he would have been triple teaming Dotson. That’s what he’s done the whole rest of his coaching career.

Our rushing attack had been dominant the whole time Hurts has been our starter. Something opponents have struggled with for years. Didn’t take Barkley. In fact number 1 presents a clear issue by himself for the D to be forced to consider.

54 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes I pointed out how there almost is not other math can be made if we stick with Saquan the whole time never producing….it really just leaves being in rough situations to overcome. I didn’t criticize the decision of giving Saquan the ball in the SB….what I did was call Saquan’s performance for what it was…A Choke!

Give me your definition of Choke. Your definition will be fascinating to read and discuss. I look forward to seeing it.

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Give me your definition of Choke. Your definition will be fascinating to read and discuss. I look forward to seeing it.

42 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hers a link to all the articles relating to DCs doubling the second and third WR along with TEs that don’t produce much receiving yardage:

Hope you enjoyed all that reading supporting your conclusion of why those guys faced single coverage in the SB.

Invisible link?

3rd and 11 first series. 2nd and 11 second series after Saquan put us in that hole. Still waiting for reasoning of how that made things easier for Hurts. Also how it completely changes the situation from the otherwise usual triple team coverage Dotson normally faces. Trying to figure or his anybody keeps staring they believe Spags was completely selling out on those plays against the run on Barkley. I’d be lying if I said I look forward to reading any further BS trying to weasel this continued talking point forward. If you can just get past the two very first series….then I could maybe find it worth while to repeat my breakdown of the entire game efforts.

41 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If it wasn’t for Spags unusual focus towards the OPoY…he would have been triple teaming Dotson. That’s what he’s done the whole rest of his coaching career.

Triple teaming Dorson would be a coach CHOKING. What stat warrants a Dotson triple?

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Invisible link?

Seems like you read all that material just fine supporting a nonexistent historical fact.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Triple teaming Dorson would be a coach CHOKING. What stat warrants a Dotson triple?

But..if not for Spags focus on Barkley…he wouldn’t have been facing single coverage

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Triple teaming Dorson would be a coach CHOKING. What stat warrants a Dotson triple?

Thank you..exactly

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Triple teaming Dorson would be a coach CHOKING. What stat warrants a Dotson triple?

We witnessed all season Fangio choosing to triple teaming cover almost every opponents third option receiving. It was only that one time we faced the elite RB he was forced into single covering such a severe threat.