Just now, mattwill said:

Spin and conjecture

This is the most proven scientific factual conclusion could have been dreamed up. Only one variable changing…less Siri…went from terrible bums to playoff reaching hot streak.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri wasn’t any main catalyst towards any of that success and achievement. ‘Any’ a bit extreme…he has his strengths. But Siri being first time HC made everything much more difficult around here.

Who would have done better?

Just now, mattwill said:

A win is a win. They count them on the Standings.

Oh yeah…winning against the Browns is equal to beating KC in the SB? BS…not every game is equal at all. You lose in the postseason you have no tomorrow. Lose week whatever…has a slight downside. Terrible opinion.

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

A win is a win. They count them on the Standings.

Even lesser a loss versus the Commanders or divisional opponent doesn’t count the same as a loss to an AFC team.

You need me to post the NFL Tiebreaker rules? They exactly lay out how some games mean more than others.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri lead those guys to 2-5. Our HC with his non developed scheme was purely factors needing to be overcome.

2-5 was better than 4-11-1. And then 7-3 was even better.

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Who would have done better?

Extensive list. He was really very bad. Like even Lurie the least likely owner to fire a HC first season…he was facing having to pull the plug on him…not even making it to the end of season one.

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Who would have done better?

An experienced HC just obviously almost always would be the correct answer concerning first offseason. But any HC supplied just a mediocre O for our guys to execute.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Only way 2021 success should be described.

Spin and conjecture

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

2-5 was better than 4-11-1. And then 7-3 was even better.

When was 2-5? When was 7-3? Trying to follow you here.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here comes the 3 pages of back to back posts LOL

Back to back to back to back to back … talking to the demons in his head. Rain Man

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This isn’t even like trying to debate between the several changed variables that occurred.

The only person you are debating with is yourself. Mirror, meet Ham.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri had to hand off things out of self preservation. His performance was just clearly leading to Lurie having to can him…likely before seasons end even. Lurie…the guy least likely to knee jerk fire.

Spin and conjecture

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

There was no scheme. Embarrassing…anybody who actually realizes the only obvious understanding at this point.

Spin and conjecture

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not even way I see to be even debatable. Proof clearly showed …Siri was doing a terrible job.

Spin and conjecture. Not a shred of proof.

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The only person you are debating with is yourself. Mirror, meet Ham.

Doesn’t feel like I’m debating anybody. Just simply pointing out the obvious. As high as we seem to be able to strive for here now I guess. Wasn’t always that way amongst us:

Just now, mattwill said:

Spin and conjecture. Not a shred of proof.

Nothing but extensive proof pointing towards this conclusion every single time

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

Spin and conjecture. Not a shred of proof.

It couldn’t fit the mold of proving things in the scientific method any better

Every single time you can point towards a heavier fingerprint showing from Siri is our weakest moments.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Every single time you can point towards a heavier fingerprint showing from Siri is our weakest moments.

As far as our O producing X and O wise. Not taking away from his other strengths helped towards success/

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What twilight zone is this place? Over and over again I’m standing as the lone opinion on the side of what seems like such overwhelmingly obvious positions.

Overwhelmingly spin and conjecture.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Fast forward through every piece of evidence playing out over years now …with every piece just proving time and time again this is exactly the case and situation. All the way to our incredibly talented O being the worst in the league in the one area that you can do clearly identify as his job performance.

14 point per game margin of victory over 17 games.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Argue playcalling from game to game who did what. Clear to me Siri stepped in massively entreating his fingerprints on the O so fairly quickly last season. But supposedly was on the surface Moore playcalling. Whatever…all that at least is debatable. Not being on the headsets …couldn’t actually know exactly the truth for sure. But scripted gameplan…isn’t a debatable area to identify who controlled.

Delusion and spin.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So crediting Siri in 2024 Super Season? That I can understand much more. How much credit is deserving? Debatable.

A win is a win. No other Head Coach won. Only Sirianni. No amount of spin or conjecture can change the numbers. They are what they are.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s very common old saying ignorance is bliss. Just like how much puffing out if the chest was going on in 2023 while we only had suffered a single loss. Just nothing but how we so clearly were the absolute best team. Yet the players on O were leaking complaints at 10-1. Painfully I saw exactly how far from ending great everything was headed.

In 2023 you obviously weren’t listening. The wins were coming but the margins of victory were very very small. Lots of concern that the bubble was going to burst, and it did.