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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

(Tapping pencils on table waiting for my next birthday to arrive)

What are you waiting for? You really just stuck needing me to point out just how incredible Jayden Daniels rookie performance played out? First season…not even like he was surrounded by elite supporting cast carrying him.

Ok so your answer is….Jayden Daniels was a complete unstoppable force absolutely stood out as NFL elite player his very first season. That should easily be overwhelmingly enough. His play was within being arguably the best most difference making of the entire NFL.

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I mean really…you are over and over again…waiting for me to point out just how outstanding Jayden Daniels rookie play was?

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just a thought here….realize it’s counter to what was done on a proven championship season. But I still don’t see how any harm would have resulted from taking the opposite approach on O. Pushing the limits towards highest greatness. Really believe we win just as routinely by letting the O go for it. Could have just been scoring so much more locking in wins week to week. Sure as so much was being added to the O for the first time assumed mistakes would occur. But payoff would have been pushing capabilities to the max. I just wasn’t believing a mis-que between receiver and QB resulting in a turnover here and there were going to really kill us. Believe we would have proven so difficult to beat by the incredible production proving far too much to contend with.

That is putting individual achievement ahead of team accomplishments. That is an anathema. The Dream Team is an example of how that works out.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I mean really…you are over and over again…waiting for me to point out just how outstanding Jayden Daniels rookie play was?

Am I missing something…must be. So just explain to me what you are needing more than rookie season already being at elite upper echelon NFL game changer.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I mean really…you are over and over again…waiting for me to point out just how outstanding Jayden Daniels rookie play was?

No, he is waiting for you to explain why you are predicting he will crash and burn.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Am I missing something…must be. So just explain to me what you are needing more than rookie season already being at elite upper echelon NFL game changer.

But my evaluation is he isn’t built well enough to pull off durability and longevity in the NFL.

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14 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I believe (but could be wrong in that belief) are defining "better” subjectively, while Ham is defining it by the count of points on the scoreboard. People who play Fantasy Football don’t like your subjective definition.

If we continued on the same path before the KISS pull back I wouldn't want Hurts on my fantasy team. Regardless of who is at fault the QB gets tagged with the pick.

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You're freakin WORRIED already that someone will go undefeated? Are you serious????? If you are I will laugh until my sides hurt

It is mathematically impossible for one Division team to go undefeated and a second team in that same Division to win 16 games.

BTW the Commanders play just as difficult a schedule as the Eagles play … within a standard margin of error.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But my evaluation is he isn’t built well enough to pull off durability and longevity in the NFL.

Is that a fact or opinion?

11 minutes ago, mattwill said:

More spin. The discussion included nothing about the detail specifics within a game until you post above. Those details do not appear in the weekly NFL standings table. Your spin is obvious and pathetic.

TV schedule…all the hype….pressure….absolutely everything and everywhere you look clearly pointing out a completely differing conclusion. How old were you first time you noticed Eagles playing division rival weeks meant more? Super young kid fan stuff here. Go to elementary school in Philly bring up its cowboys week and they all understand this already.

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Am I missing something…must be. So just explain to me what you are needing more than rookie season already being at elite upper echelon NFL game changer.

So you are "high on him' until he gets injured, got it. If he does well and kills it for 10 years you called it, if he gets hurt and can't play anymore you called it. You always play both sides LOL. So pick one A) I am high on Daniels B) he is not going to last

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Am I missing something…must be. So just explain to me what you are needing more than rookie season already being at elite upper echelon NFL game changer.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But my evaluation is he isn’t built well enough to pull off durability and longevity in the NFL.

Ham, if he isn’t durable, can he be an elite upper echelon NFL game changer. Isn’t the most important ability availability?

NFL schedule? Does any teams schedule ever place divisional games at the end? You believe it’s just by coincidence? You just blinded to the fact it isn’t just freakishly working out that way only one time at season end? It’s deliberate and purposely scheduled that way every single season.

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3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

It is mathematically impossible for one Division team to go undefeated and a second team in that same Division to win 16 games.

BTW the Commanders play just as difficult a schedule as the Eagles play … within a standard margin of error.

I still feel they will be 2nd in our division. Dallas never seems to be able to put decent players together as a unit. Even so our rivalry is always fun to watch records be damned in those 2 games

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

TV schedule…all the hype….pressure….absolutely everything and everywhere you look clearly pointing out a completely differing conclusion. How old were you first time you noticed Eagles playing division rival weeks meant more? Super young kid fan stuff here. Go to elementary school in Philly bring up its cowboys week and they all understand this already.

Lord everyone knows in the playoffs it's win or go home. it's not like you invented this theory

Just now, mattwill said:

Ham, if he isn’t durable, can he be an elder upper echelon NFL game changer. Isn’t the most important ability availability?

You can’t be a game changer if you aren’t playing in the game. But plenty of guys could suit up for every game if durability was the only deciding factor. Him being at such an elite level game changing presence can’t be denied. So really if you can just make the playoffs and he’s healthy come playoff game? You’re good.

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14 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Maximizing the potential is something that matters to Fantasy Football aficionados. Margin of Victory doesn’t actually matter in the Standings. All each individual margin needs to be is one. Where Margin of Victory matters is in determining the vulnerability of the team to actually incurring a loss. Incurring an actual loss is to be avoided wherever possible.

Football is a team sport.

No, Hurts carried everyone the last 3 years

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

TV schedule…all the hype….pressure….absolutely everything and everywhere you look clearly pointing out a completely differing conclusion. How old were you first time you noticed Eagles playing division rival weeks meant more? Super young kid fan stuff here. Go to elementary school in Philly bring up its cowboys week and they all understand this already.

Everything you have described has to do with entertainment. There is no entertainment column in the NFL Standings table.

The Bengals were the most entertaining team in the NFL in 2024. They scored highest on the characteristics you have described. How did that work out for them?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

No, Hurts carried everyone the last 3 years

Don’t give yourself a brain bleed.

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15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

WTH are you talking about? 14 wins is a DAMN GOOD SEASON. Pie in the sky BS. Explain to us all the procedure for "pushing the limits" and "pushing capabilities to the max". What do you need to see to accomplish those?

So let's hear it

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Ham, if he isn’t durable, can he be an elder upper echelon NFL game changer. Isn’t the most important ability availability?

But it’s what I believe is a fair evaluation about him. See how things play out actually. But that’s his drawback in my view. Which is about all we have in our favor concerning Jayden Daniels in our division.

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15 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I mean really…you are over and over again…waiting for me to point out just how outstanding Jayden Daniels rookie play was?

Won't matter if he goes out week 3 and never plays again

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I still feel they will be 2nd in our division. Dallas never seems to be able to put decent players together as a unit. Even so our rivalry is always fun to watch records be damned in those 2 games

I’ll bet you a cup of coffee.

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2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I’ll bet you a cup of coffee.

Ok sounds good. The Wuss have a difficult schedule, but IMO Dullaz has another year of work ahead. So it's a fair bet

55 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The evidence in every single NFL Standings table proves you wrong. The numbers don’t lie. You can not find any example where an individual win is worth more than 1 in the Standings table. Nor can you find any example where an individual loss is worth more than 1 in the Standings table.

To believe 1 is not equal to 1 is stupidity. Talk to any mathematics professor and they will tell you that insisting 1 is not equal to 1 will get you a grade of F.

I stand by my assessment … your stupidity is persistent.

Look…you really slipped up here. You had to qualify regular season game. Because without that clear exception? SB win results in a championship banner. Lombardi trophy! Parade! Week one win results in…a positive step …but mildly of importance.

That’s just the huge example of where this statement is so very flawed. Qualify things to only regular season games? Then got a whole other list of reasoning this logic is flawed…but at least doesn’t just leave me able to point out that winning the SB is a more important win than week one win over nonconference opponent.

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