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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Each of the three seasons had two faces … multiple personalities.

2024 had face one before the Bye and face two after the Bye. 2023 had face one before game 12, and face two after game 11. 2021 had face one before game 8, and face two after game 7.

Hunh?

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The Eagles wont win the Super Bowl again this year. If the refs called our playoff game right especially on the opening kickoff you guys would have lost. Teams will figure you guys out this year.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

See you in week 10, at your house, in front of your fans, which will be outnumbered by birdheads. bring lots of cheese to go with the whine 😁

You guys will get blown out. Were excited to play the Eagles.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

You guys come to Lambeau Field. You have no chance there lol.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Really? You don't know why ONE person harps on 2021 and 2023? Really... do I need to put out the agenda again?

The FOREVER agenda.... 3 parts ... 1. Hurts (perfect, even when he makes a mistake it's someone else's fault) 2. Siri stinks (they win in spite of him) 3. Howie is ok

So whenever you have a " Why the F#$% is he talking about this" moment... refer to the agenda... always leads back to one of the 3 parts.

Why do we bring up when an OL misses a block?

Why do we bring up a player move that didn't work out?

why do we bring up a game situation from years ago that didn't go well

Answer has 3 options. Pick one and it will make sense. Meanwhile ... 2025 season is upon us... GO BIRDS!

See I’m not harping on 2021 and 2023. I’m breaking down those along with 2022…2024. Just seems that way to people judging Siri glossing over everything just by record. Wins…made the playoffs in 2023….those wins actually proving how much he is to blame. Clearly had a team capable of winning. But playoffs come and they weren’t capable of winning versus 3 win Card team. 11 wins..made the playoffs…the collapse from his inability to self scout and added anything seeing it coming was why. Then couldn’t provide and answers during or after. Bucs weren’t even really playoff worthy opponent. Wiped the floor with Siri. 2022…2024 great job. Wins..playoffs SB…yes…how much due to him I could dig into. But…the other two seasons fire-able coaching performance. With him being a main reason as the problem.

Call it like I see it. Try it…explain how Steichen took over for the team rolling from his garbage…then continues to roll but sinks further and further each week from Steichen. Bucs had what 9 wins…beat those guys…have something bad luck at least reason long to that lowly team. You can’t be labeled best team in the entire league week 12…not due to injuries can’t compete against those Bucs. Shameful!!! Wasn’t the best squad…but more talent than those Bucs.

Talk 2024. I credited Siri with great. But actually began messing up bad. His great coaching job move was playing not to lose and pulling back his talented players. AJ thrive at his best? Anybody really..just Barkley. Don’t coach ‘don’t mess up’ ‘don’t throw interceptions’ coach go dominate…we far superior..they can’t keep up. AJ unleash 3 TDs. It worked…due to Siri only coach with only players could actually pull that off. But dude…super talented O…didn’t need to hold back Smitty and AJ. Those guys dominate people. Coach a your hit your higher level! Coach Greatness! Coach dominate and win…Coach not to lose. Not some terrible O. Finally unleashed them to go get it..50 points. 50 points O so talented? Why isn’t that a great way to not lose? They did it…McVay would have been hitting 60 every week you give him that talent. But we needed to hold AJ and Smitty back…why? Oh yeah..new O and Hurts we all know you’ll say. Super Bowl MVP really needed to be stalled progressing. Not!!!

Give these guys a decent O. No good reason letting AJ be a huge difference maker must be avoided. Stud..difference maker…force the ball to him instead of limiting that guy. I’ll take one interception and 200 yards with two TDs from AJ. A turnover …not killing the 50 we put up otherwise. Browns you don’t lose to by scoring points they never going to keep up with. Playing scared…just don’t lose. Saquan could have been right about elite all time team.

Elite all time in the conversation team…the great coaching move was to dial back and limit? Sure things worked out…but no way they were going to achieve less by just let the best team play and prove it. Crap O ..I get it…they sorted it out. But who’s O was so crap Moore was adding so much to it just to get it passably a scheme. Add Playaction and Coach expectations to every player in all the situations. Really? Worse than pathetic…three RB running plays. Audible was screen pass. Not AND…just screen pass or going deep. So yeah..Moore had heavy lifting….exactly because of Siri though. Moore came in and quadrupled the O playbook in one season. Siri had three…10 plays…well and Punt.

2022 really wasn’t great by Siri. That O scheme was arguably the weakest I’ve ever seen in the NFL. Sick stud just won’t be denied winners overachieving. List our talent on O. Three years Siri got them to can’t beat a 3 win Cards team or any NFL team. C’mon man add an 11th play the third year…give the QB a few audible options. Progress…regressed into that third season. Second ranked O ..pure talent overachieving in weakest O scheme possible. Talent…overcoming poor O provided still doing second best in the league. Go long…make a play…..whole scheme passing. You think the best players and coaches figured out that audible was screen? Go deep or change to screen. A blind squirrel knew what play was happening.

Talented dedicated winners why anything happened and was produced. AJ, Smitty, Hurts, Goedert…kill people if just proved average O scheme. Heck in terribly embarrassing still really weren’t totally to be stopped. Let’s get real here! Stop fluffing big picture numbers. Well though…Siri won 11 games in 2023….declining to can’t beat Charlie Brown and Snoopy. That’s with peepermint paddy sabotaging field goal attempts. The teacher in Peanuts had more wisdom for X and Os adjusting. Wha wha waa waaa…not worse…a tie is fair.

Even best season from Siri brilliance was …well trying to develop a real O in year four…so O genius was…let’s just dial everything back instead of best O thriving. That’s his top moment. Finding a way the uber talented O doesn’t score so much. Only thing was going to hold them back much longer…Siri. No D was going to much.

Which brings up elite D. Not like had to protect and worry about scrubs. Elite D to backup elite O. I know….lets limit AJ.

Go ahead…limit AJ why? Toss that guy the ball in double coverage. Limit Smitty. You know…because he’s only been a star every season. But…we could lose throwing to Smitty and AJ….just too risky…

Yeah…I was being nice just labeling 2022 and 2024 great from Siri. SB seasons…Siri looks better the more you get farther away. If you avoid details…bigger picture numbers ….just don’t actually specifically get too close on details. Blew the ATL game. Argued with fans. Whole struggle was fourth year in…trying to build any respectable scheme. Took a team comparable to all time greats…came up with let’s pull those guys back…limited his O. Moment unleashed…50 points. But yeah…scoring is bad…would want to do that.

Really the huge gains were made by Moore. I don’t even really like Moore. He’s nothing special for sure. The not too good guy..accomplished more in one season than Siri did in three. Kellen Moore…c’mon man…is he even considered average?

Playaction, Motion, more than screen for audible, whole O read and had job expectations accordingly……looked like Moore invented the light bulb comparatively. Those things his pure genius added only been topped by Tesla in absolute brilliance. Basic stuff here…appeared like he was revolutionist football or something for us Eagles fans witnessed the previous three years. Siri playbook was one play on each finger so he wouldn’t lose it. Audible screen written on his forehead.

Maybe I’m just moving too fast. Start at the beginning. Each play in football what do the players do first? Huddle up!!! Great. Why does every team forever huddle up alone away from their opponent? Why don’t they just line up and yell run right? X Slant pass…on two. Most every play ..every game you’ve ever seen. O players walk back away from the D gather in a tight circle. Every team every year and decade…thought there was benefit from the D not just totally knowing their play.

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Talking to yourself again and the constant droning on about the same thing over and over like you know better than the professionals (suffice to say you do not). Pointless drivel. Dwelling in some past, self created nightmarish drama that cannot be changed. Quite odd to say the least. We are the reining SB champs. Whatever happened worked whether you like it or not

Professionals provided that O scheme? Please….there isn’t any defending those pros have provided. Not less than groundbreaking and revolutionary. Not normal average O. Zero case can be made the three previous years any other team had a worse O scheme to operate in. Nobody. I’m actually just thinking NFL ever almost frankly. No Mas boy Chipper though ran like five plays the whole game killing the D hurry up always. So Chip Kelly worst Siri next to last. The No Mas fan club love fest.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Professionals provided that O scheme? Please….there isn’t any defending those pros have provided. Not less than groundbreaking and revolutionary. Not normal average O. Zero case can be made the three previous years any other team had a worse O scheme to operate in. Nobody. I’m actually just thinking NFL ever almost frankly. No Mas boy Chipper though ran like five plays the whole game killing the D hurry up always. So Chip Kelly worst Siri next to last. The No Mas fan club love fest.

Name any worse O scheme you’ve seen? NFL or even college we’ll accept. Let’s start there. Why does every coach huddle? Name a worse O scheme ever NFL…since they upgraded the leather helmets.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Name any worse O scheme you’ve seen? NFL or even college we’ll accept. Let’s start there. Why does every coach huddle? Name a worse O scheme ever NFL…since they upgraded the leather helmets.

About 2021 through 2023…2024 after Moore we’ll get to next. See if anybody feels after all that heavy lifting got us near average O scheme levels.

Extra credit: find a way to qualify and describe 2021 -2023 O scheme as pro level

We all played, right? Wasn’t your O more advanced?

27 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Talking to yourself again and the constant droning on about the same thing over and over like you know better than the professionals (suffice to say you do not). Pointless drivel. Dwelling in some past, self created nightmarish drama that cannot be changed. Quite odd to say the least. We are the reining SB champs. Whatever happened worked whether you like it or not

Because seems to be a blind eye turned towards the subject of weakest O scheme. Just can’t to make sure once we all get on the same page agreeing that you can’t defend his bad it is. Bad bad…so speak up if you got something to defend Siri Scheme as not the absolute weakest.

Feels like need to all be at a certain understating here. Nothing killing Siri other qualities and HC. CEO HC. But first start from worst scheme…then move forward to what our players accomplished executing in the lowest disadvantage scheme in the league.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Feels like need to all be at a certain understating here. Nothing killing Siri other qualities and HC. CEO HC. But first start from worst scheme…then move forward to what our players accomplished executing in the lowest disadvantage scheme in the league.

Important…our players are terrific! But understanding how they kicked butt so hard in these conditions is crucial. Realize just what they accomplished. D knew what they were running majority of the time. Easy way to understand would be take our headset and put it on their DC. Or almost like every other play was as obvious as The Brotherly Shove.

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