Ok…then Siri wasn’t backing down…he fought…he wasn’t giving up his job without swinging. But wasn’t letting Moore hold the keys in that crucial career defining stretch. Honestly…was in Moore best interest Siri get fired. Most likely he takes over. Not saying Moore was sabotaging…but you become HC with a loss Browns. What’s anybody do?

7 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Siri wasn't the OC, BJ was in 2023. There was nothing to strip. Howie has his HC it's merely plugging in OC's. How many OC's now since Siri has been the HC? Ham thinks Siri is inept as OC, that's because he has never been the OC, but he's going to pin it on Siri anyhow. This despite the fact we've had many OC's poached, ALL under Siri's leadership. Coincidence? Maybe, then again, you can't argue the recent success rate of Siri. Hurts likes Siri, so Ham has a conflict of interest. When you can put up 70 points with your BU's in 2 games you are doing alot right

So take a look at the last post before yours with the Cleveland reference. We engage in this stupidity and that's why nobody else is on this page anymore. 1846 pages , maybe 15-20 pages of legit football conversation, the rest dominated by the BS.

Matt is new, he will keep replying because of the possibility of a miracle that he thinks could happen with a breakthrough. We know better. See the blue avatar and move on.

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So that’s the real reasoning I’m just deducting from nothing concrete.

Thank you. That is what I thought it was.

9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

There was never " Siri stripped " of anything, other than in your own mind

As was confirmed by Lurie at his March 2024 press conference.

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

CEO…some how you forgot that where it came from. Telling you…wasn’t Johnson running 2023 O…it definitely was mostly Siri…Johnson playcalling plenty. Hurts and Johnson grew frustrated with Siri X and O abilities. Hurts wouldn’t have been questioning and frustrated with Siri if it was Johnson running the O. Leaks coming out locker room plenty in 2023 that weren’t Hurts. AJ, Smitty I almost guarantee were frustrated. Clearly defined role Siri was returning in 2024 to do first announcement we found out Siri stayed. Telling you I totally figured out was all a great Rosie planned scheme. He identified what Siri lacked and needed. Also realized Moore isn’t taking OC job under Siri running the O. Made clear new coach was running the O.

Spin and conjecture.

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri walks back things stating..we are keeping the plays been working. Players been in play wording for three years…so let’s just keep them with what they know. But Moore it’s your O running things. Take his right hand man Patullo pass coordinator and you guys figure it out. All TC Moore running the O. I noticed week 2 Siri interference. But without question the bye week Siri took over. His neck on the line…self preservation. Was not a good start…that coming on the heels of total disaster end 2023. Lose to the Browns he’s toast.

2-3 start and c’mon…gotta beat the Browns…any which way…but after very shaky performances …gotta beat the Browns. Collapse..blown out by worst playoff team …into 2-2 start Siri messed some during. Blown out Bucs again(understandably much more though). Shouldn’t lose to the Browns any which way. Bug combining end and beggining a of two season stretch? You can’t lose to the Browns. Forget the collapse and playoff loss record by itself would be. Like 1-6 then 2-2. 3-8 stretch going for Siri. 3-9..after Browns beating you? Even least knee jerk reacting owner Lurie making the move. Moore promoted to interim HC. So Siri running the O Browns game.

Spin and conjecture

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He was running the O in 2023..,then supposedly not involved and it was Moore’s o to run. Lurie never said Siri stripped of anything….just made clear…that he was stripped..ughh I mean losing control and involvement with the O. Any wording least offensive for you to hear different than stripped…he was running his O..but now he won’t be…I mean dude he was stripped of running the O..supposedly any real involvement. If not stripped..he lost it…what hr was doing..he no longer would be doing…taken away? Allowed to remain as HC accepting demotion.

Delusion and spin.

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Whichever version sounds best of horrible collapse and playoff game…shakiest ground not fired ..but coming back..keeping the job in 2024 as long as things look much improved. Don’t mess up coaching 2-2 and lose to the Browns. Real tough to not fire captain of the collapse ship. Struggling to think of a returning coach did anything worse. Credit to Rosie and Lurie there.But confidence wasn’t high.our leader didn’t want Siri’s return. Fans united calling for Siri’s head. Siri talked smack with our home fans. HC shouldn’t be doing that. Smack talking away…shouldn’t…but home…block it out and do your job. Brought kids to post game shielding things.

More delusions and fantasy.

11 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Siri wasn't the OC, BJ was in 2023. There was nothing to strip. Howie has his HC it's merely plugging in OC's. How many OC's now since Siri has been the HC? Ham thinks Siri is inept as OC, that's because he has never been the OC, but he's going to pin it on Siri anyhow. This despite the fact we've had many OC's poached, ALL under Siri's leadership. Coincidence? Maybe, then again, you can't argue the recent success rate of Siri. Hurts likes Siri, so Ham has a conflict of interest. When you can put up 70 points with your BU's in 2 games you are doing alot right

It isn’t a coincident the poaching. Gannon was on the rise and expected to become a HC shortly. Main reason Siri got the job was because Gannon was with him. Not many even argue against at this fact. Steichen and Moore earned promotions due to success overcoming in Siri’s O. If you can make that situation work the thinking is it will be easier for you elsewhere with the restraints removed.

I from the beginning stated I never was very high on Kellen Moore. Yet placed all optimism in the season based on how far he could get the O. Essentially not a great O mind…still a huge upgrade over Siri. Just get us to decent…and we’re rolling forward as a dynasty.

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

More delusions and fantasy.

Which part are you disagreeing with? All seems fairly obvious to me.

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

Thank you. That is what I thought it was.

What else would you think? You believe secretly our staff is posting on here?

Clearly running an O or D and possessing a great X and O mind isn’t all it takes to perform HC job. But running an O or D does take the X and O chops.

Eagles fans really need to rise up and oust Goodell. He really has it out for us. The rumor is they’re looking into extending him. Robbed us once. Doing everything in his power to stop us since. I don’t even doubt he was the huge driving force behind attempting to ban The Brotherly Shove. If you believe the NFL arrangement requiring us to need a blowout victory as our only hope for earning a championship..then doing nothing I can understand.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Eagles fans really need to rise up and oust Goodell. He really has it out for us. The rumor is they’re looking into extending him. Robbed us once. Doing everything in his power to stop us since. I don’t even doubt he was the huge driving force behind attempting to ban The Brotherly Shove. If you believe the NFL arrangement requiring us to need a blowout victory as our only hope for earning a championship..then doing nothing I can understand.

Links to this malarkey? I hate Gooedell, but for other reasons

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Links to this malarkey? I hate Gooedell, but for other reasons

Our owner Jeffrey Lurie stated such concerning banning our play. Not sure there’s anything I could do to convince you of anymore than what you witnessed with the SB in Zona.

High-ranking front-office sources from four NFL teams said they felt the Packers were used by the league because of their lack of a principal owner. With Green Bay’s name on the "tush push proposal,” other teams — and their owners — could throw their support behind it without a single owner being targeted by those who opposed it.

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Which part are you disagreeing with? All seems fairly obvious to me.

https://sportsnaut.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles-owner-jeffrey-lurie-blasts-roger-goodell-tush-push-meeting/

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Eagles fans really need to rise up and oust Goodell. He really has it out for us. The rumor is they’re looking into extending him. Robbed us once. Doing everything in his power to stop us since. I don’t even doubt he was the huge driving force behind attempting to ban The Brotherly Shove. If you believe the NFL arrangement requiring us to need a blowout victory as our only hope for earning a championship..then doing nothing I can understand.

Paranoia

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

Paranoia

Yeah based on the biggest game in sports having such clearly manipulated field conditions beyond anything I’ve seen in sports in my decades of watching. Observing the ref bias. Everything surrounding banning our play how it went down. If you remove all the evidence? I’d agree it was just paranoia.

34 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What else would you think? You believe secretly our staff is posting on here?

No, you hit the nail on the head in your prior post

13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m just deducting from nothing concrete.

Just now, mattwill said:

No, you hit the nail on the head in your prior post

Exactly…overwhelming evidence that nothing else be concluded from

When I made that comment…was more speculation involved with that I pointed out clearly.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Exactly…overwhelming evidence that nothing else be concluded from

Read your own words.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m just deducting from nothing concrete.