2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Learned about D? Hahaha Rosie just hired a coach finally that commanded the power over it. So Rosie learned about D by just doing what Fangio says.

Which works great. Rosie just stepping back and listening to the football guys about the football areas makes him a fantastic GM.

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Bottom line... the Eagles are able to pay their players way more than KC. . Due to being less hampered by the QB's contract.

Due to the cash Lurie makes available.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Howie also kicked up his draft prowess and off season acquisitions as well as learned about defense. Poor Schwartz, never had the players like Fangio has. We were all a little surprised because Howie historically(until this last draft) didn't take DB's or LB's high in drafts.

So huge Rosie changed and got the RBs and DBs…lead to a championship proving how this weakness had been holding things back.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well it's Moore's first year as HC, so he needs to go 14-3, not the lame 9 wins loser Siri had 🤣. Horrible. Since Siri sucks and Bark choked and Hurts got married we're going 2-15. I hope the cheerleaders are good this year

Moore isn’t very good. Still we should be very thankful for how he brought the basics to us.

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I can't look at the past years really. Then you have to show Hurts original contract which was peanuts ..that puts Hurts ahead even more.

You compare the 2 each year, the Eagles have way more cap space to work with around their QB than KC does.

You have to go to 2029. What dies that tell you?

But the time value of the cap hits... even if the money was the same total... the early years matter more because of 2 things. One is how the cap goes up each year, so any amount in 2029 won't be near the same as it is in 2025..or how it was the 5 seasons before.

The second reason is it's more flexible to have the cap space earlier in the contract so that you can make moves. Get other players early...lock them up early as well. Once you got them locked then you can plan around.

You look at both deals side by side...year by year....in every scenario the Eagles win. Most of them by a mile.

I understand your reasoning. It makes practical and short term sense … deal with what is real and before you.

With that said, the Mahomes contract is much more focused on the future than the Hurts contract. It is for 10 years, while the Hurts contract is only for four years. How do you assess that key difference between the two?

8 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Our first 4 games are going to be lots of fun to watch as a fan. All good teams. It will still be hot again In S FL week 4

They are not only good teams. Each one has the added dimension of "a story.” Dallas is Dallas, KC is a revenge game, the Rams is a revenge game, and the Bucs is a nemesis game.

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Bottom line... the Eagles are able to pay their players way more than KC. . Due to being less hampered by the QB's contract.

That is true through 2027, but what about 2028, 2029, 2030, and 2031?

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

That is true through 2027, but what about 2028, 2029, 2030, and 2031?

Maybe KC signed a ref contract for 10 years 🤣

Here’s a question for everyone’s thoughts …

What is our base defense? In the Super Bowl it was a 4-2-5 light box. Is there any reason to believe that isn’t Fangio’s preference for a base defense?

Ham doesn’t need to reply. We know he doesn’t believe Defense is important.

This is really stupid! How do they come up with these takes?

45 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I understand your reasoning. It makes practical and short term sense … deal with what is real and before you.

With that said, the Mahomes contract is much more focused on the future than the Hurts contract. It is for 10 years, while the Hurts contract is only for four years. How do you assess that key difference between the two?

I think Hurts contract absolutely focused on the future .. it was written before the 2023 season... and you are talking about 2029. That's 6 seasons of play before you get to 2029. For the NFL...6 years is eternity.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I think Hurts contract absolutely focused on the future .. it was written before the 2023 season... and you are talking about 2029. That's 6 seasons of play before you get to 2029. For the NFL...6 years is eternity.

It is, but it isn’t 10 years.

48 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I understand your reasoning. It makes practical and short term sense … deal with what is real and before you.

With that said, the Mahomes contract is much more focused on the future than the Hurts contract. It is for 10 years, while the Hurts contract is only for four years. How do you assess that key difference between the two?

Plus you look at contracts and think that's it. . You really think Mahomes contract is going to stay like it is?

Come on now. Nothing is locked, they don't want those huge cap hits coming up the next 2 years ..he doesn't have guaranteed money towards the end....you know they will rewrite it to pay him more but also lower the cap hits coming up.

It's not anything that looks ahead anymore than Hurts deal.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

It is, but it isn’t 10 years.

And you know that 10 years is BS without the guaranteed money and huge cap hits coming up. Mahomes is going to get a new deal coming up. It was already all talked about when he signed the deal.

44 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Maybe KC signed a ref contract for 10 years 🤣

Haven’t extended Goodell just yet

16 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Here’s a question for everyone’s thoughts …

What is our base defense? In the Super Bowl it was a 4-2-5 light box. Is there any reason to believe that isn’t Fangio’s preference for a base defense?

Ham doesn’t need to reply. We know he doesn’t believe Defense is important.

Nickel is everybodies Base D

51 minutes ago, mattwill said:

That is true through 2027, but what about 2028, 2029, 2030, and 2031?

All the way through

10 minutes ago, mattwill said:

This is really stupid! How do they come up with these takes?

Was there supposed to be an attachment to this post? What take are you bringing into the discussion?

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Plus you look at contracts and think that's it. . You really think Mahomes contract is going to stay like it is?

Come on now. Nothing is locked, they don't want those huge cap hits coming up the next 2 years ..he doesn't have guaranteed money towards the end....you know they will rewrite it to pay him more but also lower the cap hits coming up.

It's not anything that looks ahead anymore than Hurts deal.

I’m not at all sure that they will pay him more through the Cap. They will be looking to pay him through State Farm, etc.

I do agree they will try and rework the 2026 and 2027 numbers.

Time will tell.

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

All the way through

I just don’t see that. Help me see what you are seeing. How do their respective 2028 numbers compare? 2029? 2030? 2031?

BTW, I don’t buy your argument that KC will be bumping up the Mahomes numbers with new additions in 2028 through 2031.

11 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Was there supposed to be an attachment to this post? What take are you bringing into the discussion?

That Carton is a fool. But I am a Northern California Purdy hater.

This is the last year of the Mahomes contract essentialy

TB game should be fun. Mayfield likes his new toy Egbuka(OSU)