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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t think you can call Reddick some locker room cancer. He played like an absolutely elite top D player….then sucked up playing the second year on the cheap contract without a raise. With everybody knowing how Rosie operates. Saquan got a raise right away. If Rosie isn’t extending you early….he's not going to pay you. That’s the part of the downside about the way he operates. He went and paid Huff more just off a career 10 sack season. Reddick had done way more..for the Eagles even. Any which way…it’s just business. Rosie showed Reddick…really stuck it to him.

You wouldn’t but the media would and has labeled him as such.

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38 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You wouldn’t but the media would and has labeled him as such.

It's pretty obvious how the league feels

4 hours ago, mattwill said:

I agree we are talking past one another. My perspective is that this is all a fluid situation, and Kansas City is simply doing reactively in a step by step process what Howie did/does proactively in an all at once process. That reactive process will probably take two or three more annual steps, and I fully expect they will end up in very much the same place as Howie is. For me it is all about the numbers.

On the other hand I am beginning to sense that you don’t see that evolutionary process happening. In essence you appear to be saying, "If they haven’t gone there by now, they won’t ever go there.” That was the bottom-line of your "They’ll always be an orange.” Comment.

I just don’t see any point in comparing an apple to an orange, when all it takes is some number shuffling to make that orange into an apple.

How about putting it this way. KC put the money on the contract....and they can't get out of it... they have those Cap hits....wasn't done right from the beginning. .it was Joe Banner style... focuses on the short term with the low cap hits the first two years... now they are just chasing the rest of the contract never being able to get a low cap hit because they can't start over.

It's really not close at all. The Eagles are possibly sacrificing one...just one season in 2029 with a restrictive cap hit for Hurts. KC is constantly trying to make room for other signings by having to change Mahomes deal..

But every time they do...it makes it worse down the road.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Huff wasn’t. He was just a clear product of a quality coach and scheme with surrounding players. Said it exactly like that when we signed him. One trick pony…that wasn’t even great at that one trick. 26 mil…12 games….didn’t even dress him for the SB. 😒

Which is why he was on the UFA radar screen, ranked as the #7 overall UFA by ESPN

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3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Up and comer my a22! Career peak season we couldn’t way to throw the bag at because of…every sign pointed to it was his peak career season at that. Will give Huff that he didn’t miss any tackles in the SB.

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3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just another piece of my track record. Said I didn’t like the Huff move. It was all this larger scheme by Rosie to swap out for Reddick. Rosie just needs to limit the obvious areas of his weakness. That’s where this move was formulated.

But hey totally crushed the Chiefs in the SB even with our big D FA bust not suiting up for the game. Our big O FA choked on the game. Our starting CB didn’t suit up the whole season because he fell off a cliff.

The only person who cares about your track record is YOU

28 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

How about putting it this way. KC put the money on the contract....and they can't get out of it... they have those Cap hits....wasn't done right from the beginning. .it was Joe Banner style... focuses on the short term with the low cap hits the first two years... now they are just chasing the rest of the contract never being able to get a low cap hit because they can't start over.

It's really not close at all. The Eagles are possibly sacrificing one...just one season in 2029 with a restrictive cap hit for Hurts. KC is constantly trying to make room for other signings by having to change Mahomes deal..

But every time they do...it makes it worse down the road.

You are looking at the situation as a snapshot, while I am looking at it as a movie.

The Eagles will be in the same situation KC is in when the next Hurts extension is negotiated. Every penny of the $97 million Dead Cap will come due and Howie will have to move that $97 into the void years of the new contract. What that will mean is there is very little room to move any of the new cash amounts into void years.

On the other hand KC has $0 currently in void year Dead Cap. That means they are $97 million ahead of the Eagles in terms of Cap hits in that category. On the other hand the Eagles are $46 million ahead of KC in 2026 and $32 million ahead in 2027. That makes the net amount KC is ahead equal to $19 million. That amount will go up or down based on whether 2029 for Hurts will be above or below $45 million. Even Howie’s best magic is unlikely to make it below. Then that amount will again go up or down based on whether 2030 for Hurts will be above or below $46 million. Again Howie’s best magic is unlikely to make it below. Then that amount will once more go up or down based on whether 2031 for Hurts will be above or below $48 million. Even Howie’s best magic is unlikely to make it below.

Unless Hurts takes a below market deal, the numbers don’t favor the Eagles.

Howie use of void years works in his favor, but the fact that KC doesn’t need to reset to market until 2032 works in their favor. Those two probably offset.

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58 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Which is why he was on the UFA radar screen, ranked as the #7 overall UFA by ESPN

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Pretty nice pony if you just read about him LOL Ham wrong once again. I can certainly understand Howie's "mistake"

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah…those stupid intangibles I keep bringing up

Talking to yourself again.

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's why i don't expect there to be any extra demand outside Philly to raise the price for Hurts on a possible next contract.

Lions center is retiring. Their OL was one of the best the last couple of seasons, this may be something to knock them down a peg.

Of course we lost Kelce and Cox last year, so who knows!

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15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Lions center is retiring. Their OL was one of the best the last couple of seasons, this may be something to knock them down a peg.

I like Dan Campbell. We'll see who replaces the C, but when we play them week 11,whoever it is should be fine by then

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https://athlonsports.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/philadelphia-eagles-otas-jalen-hurts-tanner-mckee-kyle-mccord Read where McKee could be a trade piece. I really hope they don't do that. McCord needs time and IMO trading McKee would be too soon. Could be just a writer making yet more off the cuff assumptions. The QB factory seems live and well

29 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://athlonsports.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/philadelphia-eagles-otas-jalen-hurts-tanner-mckee-kyle-mccord Read where McKee could be a trade piece. I really hope they don't do that. McCord needs time and IMO trading McKee would be too soon. Could be just a writer making yet more off the cuff assumptions. The QB factory seems live and well

Yes..this is definitely a writer making stuff up

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22 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes..this is definitely a writer making stuff up

They should be fired for "false and misleading statements"

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They should be fired for "false and misleading statements"

Nah...it's all these slow times looking for conversations about the team. We as the readers need to take it all in and figure it out.

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41 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Nah...it's all these slow times looking for conversations about the team. We as the readers need to take it all in and figure it out.

Seems to me McKee would be a great QB for Moore in NO. That's a Moore type QB. Maybe this year McCord can work his way up to where we can rape the Saints with a McKee trade LOL

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We are 3rd highest in dead cap. Ham will go off on this

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We are 3rd highest in dead cap. Ham will go off on this

Surprised we are not the highest.

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