Also compare to other QB options to acquire right then. Those guys went cheaper..,

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Explain the overpay in Draft Value Chart values.

Explain what level player you believe Pickett to be

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Would you have said this same thing BEFORE last season started?

I said I preferred Tanner the whole time. And yes I’ve been pointing all this out to you.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I mean BEFORE he played a game and put up BIG points with an offense you claimed only Hurts could run?

Actually…think Moore first time under Siri any QB actually did well. Every other QB didn’t play well…best occurred elsewhere.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I mean BEFORE he played a game and put up BIG points with an offense you claimed only Hurts could run?

Actually think you are alluding to making a fairly key point in here. Moore got control back. The O looked top notch at that point

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I mean BEFORE he played a game and put up BIG points with an offense you claimed only Hurts could run?

I never stated Hurts was only guy could run the newly created scheme by Moore based on Siri O.

It was first three years O scheme couldn’t win squat without Hurts.

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I mean BEFORE he played a game and put up BIG points with an offense you claimed only Hurts could run?

See this is all BS. My exact statements always placed last years optimism exactly in Moore’s O,

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We outbid any other team should suffice. Especially with our franchise QB healthy in place…and backup Tanner in place.

Backup Tanner was a dice roll just like Backup McCord is this year.

27 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sure, but you have a double standard, specifically singling out Hurts as some god, above criticism. No standards should be placed on him

Not true. See his top potential and all. But actually just understanding he is no god is where all stems from with me. He just needed the coaching. Provide that and he thrives.

26 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right, no progress whatsoever according to you. Siri is his coach, but no progress since the day he started. Got it

Always progress. Always hard worker and coachable

28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So Hurts made no progress from the day he was drafted until we won the SB??

See he needed development. Start there. Real. But wasn’t getting it. Something would have easily just stuck out had he not just been completely stuck always under Siri:

So you are forming all opinions on Hurts faults and limitations based on everything surrounding Siri the whole time.

Moore comes in for one season and Hurts capably doing all these things you labeled him as faults and couldn’t do

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Also compare to other QB options to acquire right then. Those guys went cheaper..,

Show me a table of who they were and what they went for. Actually if you provide the names I’ll look up what they cost

Whole O never was reading and adjusting until 2024. That couldn’t be clearer to not just be a Hurts fault.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Explain what level player you believe Pickett to be

Backup level

Playcalling showed coaches didn’t have any answers for certain D playcalls. You blame Hurts. Yet whole stadium knows what’s coming. Coach understanding the D playcalls…chose that O playcall.

Hurts really wasn’t given power to audible. Finally got up to change to screen pass audible last in 2023

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I said I preferred Tanner the whole time. And yes I’ve been pointing all this out to you.

I preferred Tanner too, but he was unproven. Not a single NFL snap taken. A huge risk. You and I would have taken that risk, but we are in a very small minority

8 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Backup Tanner was a dice roll just like Backup McCord is this year.

Tanner has shown well right from day one really. He has something. Having him in place…yet still Rosie traded for Pickett. There were several QBs to choose right at that moment also. Like Fields…and several guys. Rosie actually gave up more than any of the others ended up even costing for Pickett.

I view Pickett not even as backup..,but developed into backup. Which maybe he’s at now.

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I preferred Tanner too, but he was unproven. Not a single NFL snap taken. A huge risk. You and I would have taken that risk, but we are in a very small minority

Well…Pickett had proven poorly though. So comparison isn’t really in Pickett’s favor,

7 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Show me a table of who they were and what they went for. Actually if you provide the names I’ll look up what they cost

It’s so much more than just this single piece even though here. You need to research just how most fans felt Rosie was setting everything up to go after a QB in 2022.

Rosie was very involved scouting Pickett. He made trades acquiring the first round draft ammo for the next season to go after a QB.