28 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

To be determined. Yet still was a interesting scenario comparison to ponder.

Agreed. However, the chances of either of them is somewhere between slim and none, and slim is standing next to the exit.

But Siri was short term choosing Kelce could perform much of the tasks …that enabled Siri to choose to skip teaching Hurts about.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Steichen wasn’t ever some major O guru. Never mentioned connected to QB whisperer type coaching,

OMG HAHAHA. How you whined and carried on when Steichen left

22 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m sure it’s frustrating for you to feel so overwhelmed with examples of where I was correct leading to you dealing with Ham was right so often syndrome

The only person who cares whether you are correct is YOU.

Whole O wasn’t reading D together and adjusting accordingly. Weren’t defined expectations each play from the coach who supplying…reasoning behind everything making it actually be what would constitute a scheme.

20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

See good business expanding the game is his job. Cheating and manipulating a bunch against us changes everything for me though.

Fair enough. It can be both/and.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri O had no scheme. No rhyme or reasoning why to do things. So aren’t teaching a young QB things not provided from the coach who supplying the O. If Siri hadn’t ever thought this way about things? No way he could pass along missing ingredients with himself to a QB.

Siri wasn't hired to "supply the O". You still have no understanding

9 minutes ago, mattwill said:

He brought in an experienced O coach in Steichen. Three years earlier.

7 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Proven in your mind, but far from universally believed outside your skull. Chocolate and Vanilla.

Which I understand and accept. Not anything lowering the point accuracy however.

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not so positive on this. But not knowledgable enough to definitively say otherwise either.

Fair enough. Important to know one’s own limitations.

8 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Proven in your mind, but far from universally believed outside your skull. Chocolate and Vanilla.

Proven over extensive sample size backing up my reasoning to form such conclusions.

7 minutes ago, mattwill said:

That is reasonable. What isn’t working not so reasonable is you saying you are the only one who got it right.

Never said anything about being the only one at all. Gave my educated guess you lashed out at me for because I hadn’t caught yet reading up on the posts already conforming the trade. All I said is yep, it went how I was guessing.

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure…easily …Hurts great guy …no trouble or attitude. Easy marketing…for anybody:

He is taciturn and sullen. Not a good marketing look.

9 minutes ago, mattwill said:

That is reasonable. What isn’t working not so reasonable is you saying you are the only one who got it right.

False…totally made up by you. Never said I was the only one thinking that on this subject at all.

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mahomes flashier player though

Flashier pitch man as well. An extrovert rather than an introvert.

11 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Proven in your mind, but far from universally believed outside your skull. Chocolate and Vanilla.

Yeah see you gotta be able to see all sides. Can’t just be so perfect surrounding the coach a poster lives and terrible fault for the QB they’ve been against. Start with Siri was green HC. So just logically he was behind and not experienced enough to have the greatest first TC. That’s just fair, right?

Hurts wasn’t even completely just considered our franchise QB from the start either. Heck most believed Rosie was stocking extra picks just towards grabbing a QB in 2022 draft.

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Let companies market and deal with all of that. League getting involved really taints the sports integrity.

League makes most of its money because companies pay for advertising time. It is far and away the biggest source of revenue dollars. Not tainting anything. Just taking care of the customers. You and I and all fans are not meaningful customers because we don’t account for enough revenue.

Tons of info surrounding Rosie heavy scouting of Pickett specifically. Only QB really to consider that bad QB class.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Whole O wasn’t reading D together and adjusting accordingly. Weren’t defined expectations each play from the coach who supplying…reasoning behind everything making it actually be what would constitute a scheme.

Define specifically what you feel Siri should have done since apparently you know all about it. Just Siri, no one else and list his offenses he should be fired for since you know all about that too. Educate me

Then Rosie traded exactly for Pickett instead of the several other options available that moment. Confirmed things a good amount. Really even overpaid in the trade.

17 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Proven in your mind, but far from universally believed outside your skull. Chocolate and Vanilla.

You gotta be real. Understand Hurts wasn’t developed ideally coming from a different O every season of college.

So Hurts was very young and needed to be developed. Siri was young needed to be developed. Put those two factors clear right from the beggining of everything.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Define specifically what you feel Siri should have done since apparently you know all about it. Just Siri, no one else and list his offenses he should be fired for since you know all about that too. Educate me

Concerning what? Long list

24 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Could easily have already been the case. Good character team. Doing it the right way. Easy to root for…and against. ‘22 SB..’24 SB….Eagles very much a team showing longer term effects if going to he right there consistently.

In metaphorical terms, as a Brand they are a baby crawling. Next step is to be a toddler and then a youth and then an adolescent. They will be a Brand when they reach adulthood.

BTW there is nothing "sexy” about "doing it the right way.” Sexiness sells.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Define specifically what you feel Siri should have done since apparently you know all about it. Just Siri, no one else and list his offenses he should be fired for since you know all about that too. Educate me

But seemed pretty exactly along all the lines you bashed Hurts for. Admit he needed to be coached. But Siri was deciding to skip so much of these developing your franchise QB prioritization.