What has Burrow done without Chase? In college or the pros. Look it up. Ja’Marr Chase is the best WR. Burrow maybe best QB.

42 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why does he have leverage? Being a 2 time pro bowler?

Think about the situation. Drafted a superstar in Daniels. What weapons do they have? How does Washington compete if they trade McLaren this season?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Is Daniels Joe Burrow? Do you watch football?

Is Burrow…Burrow without the best WR ever? I say..NOOO

32 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But if you are matching up Q on every team’s number one WR? Which in my mind is already viewed as fact…in July even. Just makes the most sense to Man Q up consistently. Follow your Man…because that’s clearly going to be a need…clearly great situation for us to have Q that can handle the job….but if you don’t let him Man up? Then you have Q moving matching up…but then after the snap…he’s going to pass off coverage of that number one to others in their zones?

Ham, in the simplest terms, if you have a Back Seven with six of the seven playing Zone and one of the seven matching up in what you are calling Man, the numbers clearly say that the scheme deployment is a Zone Scheme … a Matchup Zone, but definitely Zone.

I’m open to understanding why/how you feel differently, but the numbers don’t lie.

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We have a clear hierarchy needed in coverage. Man D exactly dictates that situation for us. Q on the number one….Ringo and DeJean on the others. I’m pretty high on both Ringo and DeJean. Don’t want that getting twisted. But worst case matchup each week for us would be opponents number one on them. Ringo I’m not really even worried about starting for us. But can’t put him in positions consistently covering Ja’Marr Chase. He’ll look like garbage if we allow that.

You aren’t thinking like Fangio. He always wants the advantage of surprise over the opposing OC and QB. Zone makes it very easy to disguise which players are going to do what, as well as where the seams in the zones are. Matchup Zone gives Fangio the best of both worlds. Q shadowing the opposing #1 receiver and the other six mixing and matching zones.

DeJean’s pick six was a perfect example of how zone supports read-and-react freelancing when the opposing O doesn’t send out enough receivers to "fill up” the Eagles zones. In many ways Baun’s INT was the same. Read the QBs eyes and, absent a receiver in your zone, make a play on the ball.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Now…there is Man …there is Zone….but don’t forget there also can be a combination. I expect to see a fair amount of all three. Keep Q on the number one in Man…while everybody else works the zones.

Two tight Ends were off the board after pick #14...too much of a reach. If either made it to #32, we quite possibly may have grabbed one. Then again, two more went by pick #50, so I guess it wasn't at the top of the priority list this year.

There should be a few prospects on day 2 next season, but none that appear ready to step into the lineup immediately.

49 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We were discussing how even the proteges all had potential(or most) and those are good future players we will have to cut

Yeah…just our team has players totally available for anybody to have signed that we’ll need to cut. What such quality options have proven they can do much of anything in the NFL? Let’s hope TC and PS changes these things and makes your statement accurate. Personally I see us having about 45 quality players currently. Can be optimistic or believe in all the other depth practice bodies here right now….just like every single team ever.

53 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We were discussing how even the proteges all had potential(or most) and those are good future players we will have to cut

Can you make a player that could be cut that any other team grabs off waivers? Not really seeing much there…right now. Anybody we cut….all other 31 teams will let sit on the street. All can be placed on our Practice squad at this point.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Can you make a player that could be cut that any other team grabs off waivers? Not really seeing much there…right now. Anybody we cut….all other 31 teams will let sit on the street. All can be placed on our Practice squad at this point.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Which guys? I agree on S…but nothing to back up that statement for any guys otherwise at this point. What player do we cut doesn’t even just easily clear waivers we can just put on the PS? Lowest bar possible…let’s start there.

Ham, almost all of the players listed in this article fit the description. It’s Rob’s List, not mine. The clear exception is the QB DT-R.

https://nbcsportsphilly.app.link/rDnl8uxN5Ub

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They pretty much always max out. But….with the way Rosie is running contracts and the cap….you might be naive in seeing some free cap left on each season as not maxing out. Thinking that way would be too simplistic and not accurate. The whole setup relies on needing to rollover some from the previous season. A couple of reasons this needs to happen.

You don't understand the cap. The simple concept of not overpaying just because you have cap space. You also cant get it through your head that the Eagles are in great cap shape. Fro some reason in your head, probably from your strong dislike of Howie... you always lean toward any negative thought on any 50-50 situation... I mean " They are going to lose a draft pick for tampering" LOL... clueless.

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Could dive into this statement for a month straight honestly. Player choices of course is crucial. But can’t separate player choices from the contracts and money though. Goes hand in hand.

No it doesn't.... when you get a player, already have that player.... then the next step is writing the contract.... the second one...

You simply have a buy a free agent mindset. You completely skip how Howie does contracts like Hurts and Jurgens... vs how other team over pay their guys.

You need to start looking at the established players, how team pay their own

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How do you think Rosie chooses players? Contracts and money play a key role.

The contracts play a key role when Howie drafts a player?

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Facts are we don’t rely on TE massively. Goedert isn’t much of a Red Zone TE either. Just consistently missing a few games every season. We are overpaying him right now. This will be his last season here. He’s a good all around TE. Not trying to just dog him out. Understand Rosie slapped this band aid on for this season with Goedert. No problem with the move that was made.

Goedert is the 14th highest paid TE .... look at some of the names above him... he is nowhere near " overpaid" which TE consistently plays all the games?

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seems like the two people that were discussing it do. If you don’t give an ish…why even reply then? Nothing productive about your response…just attempted trolling.

who was the other person?

17 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Facts are we don’t rely on TE massively. Goedert isn’t much of a Red Zone TE either. Just consistently missing a few games every season. We are overpaying him right now. This will be his last season here. He’s a good all around TE. Not trying to just dog him out. Understand Rosie slapped this band aid on for this season with Goedert. No problem with the move that was made.

I’m not sure about Ham’s bolded prediction. It would not surprise me at all if Goedert is with the 2026 Eagles. The reason is simple. Howie will recognize that he can’t find a TE who can both pass catch and inline block like Goedert can, and simultaneously Goedert will find out that the other 31 teams aren’t willing to pay him for his blocking prowess and that they can easily find pass catching TEs who are cheaper than Goedert is. So Howie will match the best offer Goedert gets and he will sign once again with the Eagles.

The same thing may happen to Calcaterra, whose blocking will continue to improve this year under Stoutland’s tutelage.

JMO

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

who was the other person?

It was Joe.

With that said, Ham’s point about 2020 and 2021 has a fatal flaw, which @joemas6 has repeatedly tried to get Ham to understand. Specifically, that the Cap only appeared to look maxed out. It really wasn’t maxed out because a lot of the Cap dollars were not guaranteed, so when a player with little or no guaranteed money did not make the team, the Cap dollars for future years in that player’s contract simply disappeared. The other factor was that a huge portion of the Cap in those two years was the extraordinary Dead Cap that resulted from the Carson Wentz trade. That was an unusual occurrence, which simultaneously ushered in the Hurts era, which I’m sure Ham will agree was a good thing.

JMO

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

It was Joe.

With that said, Ham’s point about 2020 and 2021 has a fatal flaw, which @joemas6 has repeatedly tried to get Ham to understand. Specifically, that the Cap only appeared to look maxed out. It really wasn’t maxed out because a lot of the Cap dollars were not guaranteed, so when a player with little or no guaranteed money did not make the team, the Cap dollars for future years in that player’s contract simply disappeared. The other factor was that a huge portion of the Cap in those two years was the extraordinary Dead Cap that resulted from the Carson Wentz trade. That was an unusual occurrence, which simultaneously ushered in the Hurts era, which I’m sure Ham will agree was a good thing.

JMO

I was talking about 2021???

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

It was Joe.

With that said, Ham’s point about 2020 and 2021 has a fatal flaw, which @joemas6 has repeatedly tried to get Ham to understand. Specifically, that the Cap only appeared to look maxed out. It really wasn’t maxed out because a lot of the Cap dollars were not guaranteed, so when a player with little or no guaranteed money did not make the team, the Cap dollars for future years in that player’s contract simply disappeared. The other factor was that a huge portion of the Cap in those two years was the extraordinary Dead Cap that resulted from the Carson Wentz trade. That was an unusual occurrence, which simultaneously ushered in the Hurts era, which I’m sure Ham will agree was a good thing.

JMO

You do realize that trading Wentz actually saved a little Cap space that year....oh crap, now I am talking about 2021!

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You do realize that trading Wentz actually saved a little Cap space that year....oh crap, now I am talking about 2021!

You've been Hamstrung lmao. Hamityville 1- Joe -0

31 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I was talking about 2021???

You have been making that point about all Cap years and Ham was slow to understand, but he seems to get it now. I wasn’t as quick on the uptake as I should have been. As you correctly said, ignore the AAV because lots of that is unguaranteed dollars in the later years that won’t ever be paid.