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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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15 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LOL he went off because Gainwell got the start(week 1 I believe one year). Doesn't really matter who starts to me on snap #1

Of course I did. All that talk all TC about a competition for the starting RB job….that Siri awarded to his boy Gainwell. No way Swift wasn’t the far better option. How did things play out that season?

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Of course I did. All that talk all TC about a competition for the starting RB job….that Siri awarded to his boy Gainwell. No way Swift wasn’t the far better option. How did things play out that season?

Oh yeah…Swift made the Pro Bowl. Gainwell might not even make the team in Pittsburgh.

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

the guy that got caught from behind in the championship game?

Was it an 8 yard Gainwell type run? Or was it a huge gain after his explosion?

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I agree, I wasn't a fan of how Moore forced too much passing early in games the first half of the season.

Which passing plays? What matchups were created that week? What was the pass plays attempting to achieve to take advantage of a weakness discovered in film study by the coach?

18 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But that leads to the other questions... why show a comparison between Sanders and Barkley... what was the purpose?

Uhmmm…showed the comparison…to ughh…compare

21 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But that leads to the other questions... why show a comparison between Sanders and Barkley... what was the purpose?

Saquan had Becton massive run blocking instead of Seumalo for Sanders

Sanders is a cowboy now though, right? So hopefully he really stinks!

Exciting to contemplate the season in store for this young RB. He’s going to tear it up!

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Isn't that football?

Others have much more quality playcalls by the coach whose duty is to do that job. Shouldn’t have to rely on the QB getting out of bad playcalls so often. A few games where the big audibled plays made all the difference in the game.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Loaded box…Saquan busts it…because nobody was back there once he got through. This is a fairly widely understood scenario that occurs.

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I agree, I wasn't a fan of how Moore forced too much passing early in games the first half of the season.

Seems to me he took over starting with the Pittsburgh game. Not a strong area for Moore….but can’t be worse than it is for Siri.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

You may want to review the video of Saquon’s long runs. He rarely had to power through the LOS. He regularly was 5 or more yards past the LOS before any contact by a defender. As the stats below show , over 2/3 of his 2,000 yards rushing were yards before contact. That was not only the highest number of YBCON, but also the highest percentage of yards as well.IMG_0243.png

How much more video would you like for me to review of Saquan busting huge gains against loaded box? Will take a long time to watch them all after how much he did it last season.

19 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How much more video would you like for me to review of Saquan busting huge gains against loaded box? Will take a long time to watch them all after how much he did it last season.

The Eagles only faced 8 in the box three times in 2024. KC, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland. Saquon had 47 yards on 18 carries against the Browns, 65 yards on 19 carries against the Steelers, and no long runs against the Chiefs.

His long runs came against non-loaded box deployments.

28 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

78 yarder against loaded box

Five in the box. Single deep Safety so deep he is off the screen to the right. Two CBs manned on AJ and Devonta. Three LBs off ball. 11 minus 1 minus 2 minus 3 leaves 5.

37 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Another loaded box….heck after that season I can do this all day

Six in the box. Four in a four/three point stance and two in a two point stance. Zone coverage in the Back Five identified when Devonta goes in motion but the Commies Safety #11 Jeremy Chinn doesn’t follow him. First contact was 15 yards beyond the LOS.

52 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Loaded box…Saquan busts it…because nobody was back there once he got through. This is a fairly widely understood scenario that occurs.

You can’t even see the defensive deployment in that video. It is off the screen.

55 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Loaded box…Saquan busts it…because nobody was back there once he got through. This is a fairly widely understood scenario that occurs.

Here’s a better video. As you can see, only five in the box.

https://youtube.com/shorts/4ALF1WM5pgE?feature=shared

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Others have much more quality playcalls by the coach whose duty is to do that job. Shouldn’t have to rely on the QB getting out of bad playcalls so often. A few games where the big audibled plays made all the difference in the game.

Ham, I’m beginning to get the clear picture that you don’t understand football at anything other than the 100,000 foot level. All teams, all play callers, and all QBs regularly come up to the LOS and find that the Defense has adjusted its deployment, moving players on and off the LOS, moving from zone to man or man to zone, shifting from 2 deep to single high, etc. When that happens QBs ALWAYS have the discretion and expectation to audible out of the called play because the realigned Defense is well positioned to defend it. All the QBs in the HOF regularly turned to audibles.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Ham, I’m beginning to get the clear picture that you don’t understand football at anything other than the 100,000 foot level. All teams, all play callers, and all QBs regularly come up to the LOS and find that the Defense has adjusted its deployment, moving players on and off the LOS, moving from zone to man or man to zone, shifting from 2 deep to single high, etc. When that happens QBs ALWAYS have the discretion and expectation to audible out of the called play because the realigned Defense is well positioned to defend it. All the QBs in the HOF regularly turned to audibles.

The 100000 foot view is great for a fictional movie script though. The drama sells.

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