Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Besides in football there is no "lucky punch". If you went to the score cards we won every round

That’s why you made a bad comparison to begin with

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

See….its the SB though. Biggest game in all the land…players careers…nfl history. Supposed to be the top opponent to be found to compete. Lay it all down that day. In the SB? Do as much as you can…to the max. Just don’t view that moment like every other game.

Why you allow your 2's to maybe get some snaps in so they can say "I played in the SB". They weren't getting up off the mat. if it was 14-10,you keep plugging. We had them covered so bad. Kelce was totally taken out,Mahomes best weapon was on the canvas and out for the count. We had the superior players,

game plan and coaching

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Besides in football there is no "lucky punch". If you went to the score cards we won every round

But mattwill perfectly posted the sound bite from the Chiefs sideline….they were all hyping up Pats come back…all jabbering about how they can do this and come back on us. You can’t be talking like that….then whine about getting scored on more.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s why you made a bad comparison to begin with

No,just a comparison you fail to see

32 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The only measurement that matters is winning. Win by 1, win by 34, there is only one Lombardi Trophy to lift.

It’s the top reason…but not only. NFL history is important. SB history is important. No reason any player should be asked to do anything less than capable of that day.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But mattwill perfectly posted the sound bite from the Chiefs sideline….they were all hyping up Pats come back…all jabbering about how they can do this and come back on us. You can’t be talking like that….then whine about getting scored on more.

LOL right, you can't quit on your team no matter what. Also at the end of that soundbite was the dime drop to Smitty for 6

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s the top reason…but not only. NFL history is important. SB history is important. No reason any player should be asked to do anything less than capable of that day.

Name me one guy that didn't do his job that day

33 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The only thing that matters is team. All the rest is fluff.

Not true. Top priority…but not only thing. How can you deny any athlete giving their all in the biggest moment? Career defining. My whole life been hearing about what guys did in SBs….as the biggest defining career game. Every sport really.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Name me one guy that didn't do his job that day

Don’t know what you’re talking about. Nobody said anything like that.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Don’t know what you’re talking about. Nobody said anything like that.

Then everyone did what they were capable of?????

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not true. Top priority…but not only thing. How can you deny any athlete giving their all in the biggest moment? Career defining. My whole life been hearing about what guys did in SBs….as the biggest defining career game. Every sport really.

Did the Eagles guys care about the score or stat lines as they each got their rings? Were they disappointed it wasn't 99-0?

32 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Balance is a far superior approach to the imbalance of striving. The whole is greater than the sum of the individual parts.

Like I said earlier, your approach is testosterone overload.

Like I asked before (twice). Which do you think is more important, a team’s Quarterback or that team’s Offensive Line?

Balance would be exactly making my point instead of yours in fact. Think you had the answer in this post…then lost it a sentence later. You need everybody working together. QB and Oline need to be on the same page. But…if pressed? QB…he’s reading and adjusting. He calls blocking assignment or audible. Extra responsibility can be so very key. Get out of a bad play and into a good one…that part kind of trumps just regular doing one’s job.

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No reason any player should be asked to do anything less than capable of that day.

We had the game won,why would you keep pushing Barkley in the last game of the year? Oh I forgot, he "choked" with "only" 97 yards of contributions

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But…if pressed? QB

(*buzzer sound) "OH I'm sorry, that answer is incorrect, but we have some nice parting gifts" LOL

36 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

New O scheme. That wasn’t hashed out even yet. Had injuries along the Oline along with just trying to install the new O. Run blocking easier. Pass blocking takes more thinking and perfection.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. You are practicing the logical fallacy of "Affirmative the Consequent”

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just crap…your four games. Two of which are the least relevant to define and judge things based on. TB game makes zero sense. Brazil game…c’mon…week one is widely known as a crap shoot anyway. So unreasonable to skip the PS in a new O …but define so much based on the first series of week one.

You appear to be saying you are smarter and more knowledgeable than Lane Johnson and Jeff Stoutland. Their assessment of the first four games is very different than yours.

27 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

In boxing…you can beat the crap out of your opponent for round after round….but if he catches you? You lose. Thinking like that little guy against George Foreman so late in his career. Reigning champ just kept tagging Foreman and moving. Ridiculous punch connection differential. But then one punch…Foreman owned him.

Bad analogy. Each punch in a boxing match has unlimited knockout potential. In football each play has limited scoring potential. That is especially true when playing catchup. No single Chiefs play in the Second Half could produce your referenced George Foreman result.

You are again deploying the logical fallacy of "Affirmative the Consequent”

27 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Is winning the only single thing that matters? So funny…you are always on the opposite side of this argument. You are a stat chaser to the core. Often you talk like stats defend everything. Think players and teams should lay down their best and everything they’ve got in the SB. Best opponent better keep up…or not.

Vince Lombardi is famous for the quote "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing".

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No,just a comparison you fail to see

I don’t think he understands what a TKO is or does.

25 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s the top reason…but not only. NFL history is important. SB history is important. No reason any player should be asked to do anything less than capable of that day.

No player should ever put himself ahead of the team. There is no I in team.

24 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not true. Top priority…but not only thing. How can you deny any athlete giving their all in the biggest moment? Career defining. My whole life been hearing about what guys did in SBs….as the biggest defining career game. Every sport really.

They give their all in the interests of the team. There is no I in team.

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

(*buzzer sound) "OH I'm sorry, that answer is incorrect, but we have some nice parting gifts" LOL

I’m willing to accept his answer coming from him. I didn’t expect anything else. His logic fits the "Affirmative the Consequent” model just as much as Jeff Stoutland’s answer would fit that same model, just with a different answer. We all have our biases.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So why should you risk adding to the pass game and going away from what works? Why do you want to fix what isn't broken?

Why improve and get better and more versatile?

13 hours ago, mattwill said:

Goodell will have a very powerful opponent if he tries to go after the Void years … the NFL Players Association. The players LOVE the void years. Void years mean more cash earlier for the players. More cash is better. Earlier cash is better. Some of the owners are whispering in Goodell’s ears … the ones who are tight with their cash, but it is a minority of the owners. And unlike the tush push effort, banning Void years would take BOTH a vote of the owners AND agreement with the Players Association to write it into the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Ham hasn't been able to understand that the players benefit from everything Howie has done contract wise ....BECAUSE THRY GET PAID!

It's never where players take less when they sign the long term deals...they get their money up front, the rest of the Cap stuff that helps keep the hits low isn't anything that the players sacrifice.

He refuses to acknowledge this concept....but again..."im the only one realizing how Jalen Carter is goiing to get paid" he just lives in his own world.

13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not so sure the Players Union can stop him on this though.

Yeah... it's a collective bargaining issue. You can be sure the players union will have their say. This is one of the things that offsets " guaranteed contracts " which the owners will avoid at all costs.