2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

An issue for Rosie. So he showed him.

I have been myself. Don’t you recall me talking about the Niners playing a physical brand of ball …zigging while most are zagging to finesse. How much I believe in doing that…don’t just go along with copycatting. Kind of how you think…always trying to pretend like the future can only happen like the past.

I recall GB constantly saying the Eagles have been doing things differently

21 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I like that he can BU either of your top WR's and produce there if needed

Exactly…not just some Slot only option..very key

20 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I recall GB constantly saying the Eagles have been doing things differently

Pretty odd then you don’t recall me talking about that for years and years

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Pretty odd then you don’t recall me talking about that for years and years

Even specifically going into detail about being a physical team to punch team in the mouth the more the rest of the league has turned to finesse.

LBs being much more evaluated on pass coverage than run D. Pass rushers making the big bucks. On and on….

22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/eagles/2025/04/23/eagles-jahan-dotson-5th-year-option-decline/83237385007/ so I can't blame Howie for rejecting paying Dotson 16+ million dollars for his slot role. Suspect if he does well this year we would offer him a decent multi year contract but not at 16 million a year. At that point he could accept or reject Howies offer to stay

It’s not just the 16…that could actually be possible. Fifth year option is fully guaranteed and all hits that years salary cap. That’s what makes it much more difficult for Rosie to suck up …like he did overpaying Jordan Davis. But there wasn’t a thought he was picking up Dotson fifth year option.

Jordan Davis did slim down…so hopefully he is ready to contribute much more finally.

"He's getting slim. He's running fast," Carter said of Davis. "I really think, I don't want to give him too much, but I think JD is faster than me. He moving fast."

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

OFFENSE

QB: Jalen Hurts, Tanner McKee, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, Kyle McCord

RB: Saquon Barkley, Will Shipley, A.J. Dillon, Montrell Johnson, Keilan Robinson, ShunDerrick Powell

FB: Ben VanSumeren

WR: A.J. Brown, Johnny Wilson, Elijah Cooks, Darius Cooper

WR: DeVonta Smith, Terrace Marshall, Giles Jackson, Ife Adeyi

WR: Jahan Dotson, Ainias Smith, Avery Williams, Taylor Morin

TE: Dallas Goedert, Grant Calcaterra, Kylen Granson, Harrison Bryant, E.J. Jenkins, Nick Muse, Cameron Latu

Depth chart ahead of the PS game

At QB I think the only reason DT-R is QB3 is to entice trade offers. McCord is the real QB3.

At RB FWIW I have Powell ahead of Robinson. I’m thinking Howie and Dillon may have an agreement that allows him to be paid and used from the Practice Squad for the first three weeks.

In WR1 I have Cooks ahead of Wilson and I have Cooper in the WR3 group

In WR2 I have Ifeyi ahead of Jackson based on speed, but the truth is we know little about either. I would include Ainais Smith in this group rather than in WR3. He would be just ahead of Marshall because of Marshall’s injury status.

In WR3 I would put Cooper ahead of Williams and Morin

At TE I would flip Granson and Bryant

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This would be the one more season

Okay. I call that the current season and for me more would be additional to that. Semantics, and both work.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Real question is what is the expectations for Dotson or any 3rd WR on this team??? at best they would be the 4th option in the passing game more likely the 5th behind AJ,Smith,Geodart, Barkley.

On top of us only throwing the ball 25-30 times a game.

I think those expectations are in line with his Playoffs productivity.

30 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Pretty odd then you don’t recall me talking about that for years and years

Ancient History. You guys really love talking about the past … a past you can not change.

31 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Even specifically going into detail about being a physical team to punch team in the mouth the more the rest of the league has turned to finesse.

Respectfully, how is a passing oriented gameplan punching the other team in the mouth? In passing plays the O-Line is being punched rather than punching.

Booker is a good player who was really ready to play for us.

12 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Why?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s not just the 16…that could actually be possible. Fifth year option is fully guaranteed and all hits that years salary cap. That’s what makes it much more difficult for Rosie to suck up …like he did overpaying Jordan Davis. But there wasn’t a thought he was picking up Dotson fifth year option.

It's the 16. Howie refused to pay that for a BU/slot, very intelliegent not to get tagged with that expense. Now Howie will make him on an offer he can accept or refuse. Nothing to do with sucking up,it's the bottom line

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Like using a FB…several ways this can be utilized. One being gives that player in the backfield can pick up the blocking so the RB can go out as a receiver. Another front to physically rush the ball.

That uses up a roster spot,so he needs to be worth that. BVS is good on ST's, but that is not enough to use up a spot. he needs to make additional plays if he stays

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

At QB I think the only reason DT-R is QB3 is to entice trade offers. McCord is the real QB3.

At RB FWIW I have Powell ahead of Robinson. I’m thinking Howie and Dillon may have an agreement that allows him to be paid and used from the Practice Squad for the first three weeks.

In WR1 I have Cooks ahead of Wilson and I have Cooper in the WR3 group

In WR2 I have Ifeyi ahead of Jackson based on speed, but the truth is we know little about either. I would include Ainais Smith in this group rather than in WR3. He would be just ahead of Marshall because of Marshall’s injury status.

In WR3 I would put Cooper ahead of Williams and Morin

At TE I would flip Granson and Bryant

It's pre 1. We are seeing WHO gets cut. a bad performance here and you are gone. If you do well it warrants maybe another look in pre 2

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That uses up a roster spot,so he needs to be worth that. BVS is good on ST's, but that is not enough to use up a spot. he needs to make additional plays if he stays

Same goes for Avery

https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2025/08/04/jakorian-bennett-thomas-booker-trade-grades-eagles-raiders-deal/85518310007/

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's pre 1. We are seeing WHO gets cut. a bad performance here and you are gone. If you do well it warrants maybe another look in pre 2

That was true in the days of multiple cut downs, but now that there is only one cutdown from 90 to 53 (55 if you include the two IR spots) it is less so.

24 minutes ago, mattwill said:

That was true in the days of multiple cut downs, but now that there is only one cutdown from 90 to 53 (55 if you include the two IR spots) it is less so.

So this depth chart is going to change after pre 1 either way

7 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's the 16. Howie refused to pay that for a BU/slot, very intelliegent not to get tagged with that expense. Now Howie will make him on an offer he can accept or refuse. Nothing to do with sucking up,it's the bottom line

Did you miss the part with me saying there never was a thought of picking up the fifth year option?

12 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The more he produces…the more he’ll cost to retain

Obviously but what’s the number at which it’s like ok we should keep Dotson good #3 that isn’t overpriced… v just bad

Obviously need more then the 200 yards he had last year but say he gives us like 400-600 yards as the 4th/5th option is that good enough?

I’m just curious as to were we realistically see the bar for that WR 3 position in our offense