Slay and Ceedy Duce had that vet swagger. Respect earned that opponents weren’t totally confident to attack. Now we have clear weaknesses they are confident to attack us on.

Our Edge pass rushers aren’t scaring anybody.

Interior Dline should be an issue for most…

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How can it even be delusional? It’s nothing but proven to work. Yet it is clearly by differing means than has been believed and defined traditionally.

He is not a god Ham,he worked hard for5 years to get this level, like ANY successful QB has to do. He rewrote ZERO scripts, he merely followed the scripts that other QB's also had to follow. I really don't know where you dream up all this stuff. Hurts had issues as most rookies do. The NFL is at a different level. He put in the work,worked for years correcting his mistakes, learning. Failing at times but failure is part of the learning process. No one on here hates Hurts. He worked very hard to get to the level Joe and myself expected him to reach. There were many rocky areas he had to clean up and one by one he got rid of his nemesis points. he began to trust not only himself, but his O line and receivers and he has some of the best in the league. He learned the game wasn't on him,he learned they were TOOLS for him to USE and he started putting that together last year. He erased the bonehead plays he used to make. There were no big droops in the last SB by Hurts. he used his legs and teams know he can take off on them at any time. His passes grew crisper and more accurate,exactly the things Joe and I harped on. he did not carry the team on his back,he learned he didn't need to,that his players had jobs to do and did them just like him. That was when we became a polished and dominant team when all those things were put together. Hurts went through the same processes all the good QB's had to go through,so there was no re writing the script. Still a few more things for him to learn and I think he will learn them. McKee is 2 years behind the learning curve,but he is picking up this offense quickly even gouging the Bengals for a tush push,which is very difficult to do with a 6'6" QB,but he showed he could do it getting tips from Hurts. Hurts is not a god,he is now a very good QB and he should continue to be for many years if can keep the surrounding cast up to par. Hurts is a QB,but will never be a god I worship. He is part of the 11 guys on offense. They ALL make the machine work. So I'm done talking about Hurts, he is our QB,that's all I need to know,but I will commend all the players around him,that give him the tools he needs,not just ONE guy. It's ridiculous to even think that. Take my opinion as you will,but it's not changing. I trust the FO to play the players they want played,but none are gods and never will be

12 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMFAO rewriting the script HAHAHAHAHA LMAO

This seems to be the script. As long as we stick to the run and make the opponent focus on stopping the run... everything builds from there.... passing game is more effective and keeps the Defense off the field limiting the opponent's possessions..... and limits our turnovers.

You and I disagreed on 2nd half ball control...as you focused on 30 points where I was looking at it from the opponent's point of view in how tough we were to come back to beat if we had a lead at half-time, if the opponent only had the ball 2 or 3 possessions.

This is the formula... the script... which makes us difficult to beat

Btw...just checking in as im up the Poconos on vacation... 2 things..

.shout out to Pocono Don

And also to mention I didn't ...nor will i read the long conversation Ham just had with himself.. so just wanted to be clear that I didn't make any wagers the last two pages here.

Ill make sure to state this EVERY TIME Ham goes into one if these conversations with himself over multiple pages. God bless!

Oh.... and GO BIRDS!!!!

Also... not sure what you guys outside the area have been able to hear or see...but Miles Garrett is an absolute specimen...and im not talking him being an Italian astronaut either... dude is a freak physically.

Good example of when you combine the God given ability with a work ethic to get your body in absolute best possible condition..of how it pays off.

That guy alone puts the Cleveland D on the map.

From the videos and talk on the radio here locally... these joint practices tell us what a lot of people thought regarding the offense

Without AJ....the passing game struggles... we can see over the games he has missed how our point production goes down

Stout is a stud OL coach. Apparently the main bright spot during these joint practices is our OL opening up running lanes. If it were a real game, you can see how the formula would be to use the running game.

The other thing is we know teams will be giving us their absolute best intensity all season.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

This seems to be the script. As long as we stick to the run and make the opponent focus on stopping the run... everything builds from there.... passing game is more effective and keeps the Defense off the field limiting the opponent's possessions..... and limits our turnovers.

You and I disagreed on 2nd half ball control...as you focused on 30 points where I was looking at it from the opponent's point of view in how tough we were to come back to beat if we had a lead at half-time, if the opponent only had the ball 2 or 3 possessions.

This is the formula... the script... which makes us difficult to beat

hurts rewrote the script to become a good QB. It's never been done before 🤣

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

From the videos and talk on the radio here locally... these joint practices tell us what a lot of people thought regarding the offense

Without AJ....the passing game struggles... we can see over the games he has missed how our point production goes down

Stout is a stud OL coach. Apparently the main bright spot during these joint practices is our OL opening up running lanes. If it were a real game, you can see how the formula would be to use the running game.

The other thing is we know teams will be giving us their absolute best intensity all season.

Smitty too, when he was out Hurts struggled, but it's not Hurts, it's everyone else messing him up or not being there. He rewrote the script you know? Hurts has carried this team for 5 years on his back

Iggles/Browns at 1PM on NFLN

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Iggles/Browns at 1PM on NFLN

Be interested to see your report on the game

42 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Be interested to see your report on the game

My honeymoon was in the Poconos at a place called Cove Haven. Have a great time. I hope you get the game wherever you are

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-browns-what-to-watch-in-second-preseason-game/ar-AA1KCqBQ?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=e2b7534763ce47ddceaf2b31a31bba44&ei=13

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-cb-competition-is-expanding-when-it-should-be-contracting/ar-AA1KDTRM?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=a1c89fe904334575cdac4fb420180326&ei=6

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

From the videos and talk on the radio here locally... these joint practices tell us what a lot of people thought regarding the offense

Without AJ....the passing game struggles... we can see over the games he has missed how our point production goes down

Stout is a stud OL coach. Apparently the main bright spot during these joint practices is our OL opening up running lanes. If it were a real game, you can see how the formula would be to use the running game.

The other thing is we know teams will be giving us their absolute best intensity all season.

More than just missing AJ. But Smitty getting locked down. Rare. No Lane and no Dickerson. Mailata getting whooped.

Not just the O however…our D got whooped also

According to ESPN Research, over the past five seasons, only three receivers 31 years or older have played at least 10 games and averaged 70-plus receiving yards per game; six have averaged 60-plus."

47 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not just the O however…our D got whooped also

Will be interesting at 1 PM to see who is at CB and S and if the O line can even hold

So first Browns series. What I'm seeing is(and I know it's not the 1's) is only minor disruptions from the D line and even when they get pressure there is no containment. The Browns are pretty much doing whatever they want and executing. The secondary is a step behind the Browns receivers and are not any threat to pick them off or break up the play. A little disappointing, but we also know they feel the opponent out and I expect some adjustments

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So first Browns series. What I'm seeing is(and I know it's not the 1's) is only minor disruptions from the D line and even when they get pressure there is no containment. The Browns are pretty much doing whatever they want and executing. The secondary is a step behind the Browns receivers and are not any threat to pick them off or break up the play. A little disappointing, but we also know they feel the opponent out and I expect some adjustments

You don’t do that in PS. Usually come out fairly vanilla

Sounding really bad. I’m not getting the game but checked in on some play by play. Eagles looking like 💩

Mukuba it’s being said has been playing well

7 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Smitty too, when he was out Hurts struggled, but it's not Hurts, it's everyone else messing him up or not being there. He rewrote the script you know? Hurts has carried this team for 5 years on his back

Smitty got locked down at joint practice by Ward.