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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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12 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Is he better than Jordan Davis???? I’m going to bet he isn’t better than Smith or Carter…. Maybe orjomo…. So 4th best???? Again why would you take Davis off the field for Hall???? No you would want to take Davis off for a better pass rusher.

Ham just wants Davis off the team... he wanted the safety from Baltimore so we will never hear the end of it...similar to years of crucifying Lane at the start of his career because he wanted Ziggy Anzah. Ziggy was all we heard, Lane needed steroids was so unreliable etc. That first game he struggled vs KC, we heard that for 3 years.

Davis will either be overpaid or once he leaves we get " I called it"

Same crap over and over

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Davis has the extra value of trying to keep Carter in line has been my consistent opinion.

40 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

There was no script according to our OC. Rethink this post. It is irrelevant to Thursday's game abd what occurred. No recon...due to no script.

I hadn’t heard that. Interesting.

The principle is correct, but the application to Thursday’s events is incorrect.

I wonder why no script?

Great assessment of our D-Line. Thoughts?

2 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Zadarius Smith takes his place as a 3/4 DE. Edge is the wrong term a 274 pound DE. The DEs are basically Ojomo, ZS, Robinson (when he is ready) and Young. ZS and OO are more DE than OLB when the Eagles go light and both can probably play BG "DT”. (Although OO has played some OLB). Ojomo, Robinson and Young also can line up in traditional DT alignments. Vic loves diversity.

Tank is the BVS replacement, ZS is the Gabe Hall replacement. Cue some Beat to say Tank isn’t a FB and ZS is a pass rush specialist.

Ham will like this post …

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

Robinson isn't strong enough to line up as a DT, you could see that in the exhibition games - which is why he isn't dressing right now. Needs a year in the weight room.

Young is more of a DT than Ojomo, Smith can fill the BG role and move inside on obvious passing downs.

Hall was the odd man out b/c they're in 4-2-5 more often than 3-4 sets, so they need depth at DT.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

I hadn’t heard that. Interesting.

The principle is correct, but the application to Thursday’s events is incorrect.

I wonder why no script?

That was my original post ...lol. that there was no script Thursday. It's been discussion on local radio today....the script vs no script...Any internal discipline for Carter... Adam Shefter was on, he makes a regular guest appearance each week... discussed how Tank was originally part of the Fred Johnson trade.

You won't hear as much unless you arr able to go online or use Siri or Alexa... and go to 97.5 " the fanatic" or 94.1 W.I.P. Sports radio.

24 hour sports talk. All the Eagles insiders have spots on these stations including Siri each week.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Davis has the extra value of trying to keep Carter in line has been my consistent opinion.

How about his value as a stud run stuffer?

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Great assessment of our D-Line. Thoughts?

Think it's really not a good assessment at all.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Ham will like this post …

Now the last sentence ... great assessment

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Great assessment of our D-Line. Thoughts?

Think the DL is fairly simple to break down

Orjomo/Carter are your DEs with Smith and Young behind them

Davis is your NT going to be on the field on the early downs to stop the run

Early downs Orjomo/Davis/Carter to focus on stopping the run… Smith/Carter/Young trio to get after the QB… Carter gets moved around to get the best matchup

Also have to add the Tank as a BVS replacement is a terrible take as well…. BVS replacement going to be Granson they also mentioned Latu possibly as a call up.

Even looking at the RBs if we wanted to go that route I’d lean toward Dillion as a FB before Tank… Dillion is 6ft 250 good pass protector, good hands, powerful runner just no clue if he can lead block.

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5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Yet Gainwell was out on the field for key plays on the first Pittsburgh drive... must be Tomlin forcing him in the lineup same way Siri forced him in.

Those damn coaches don't know anything

The clear focus for Bigsby seems to be taking advantage of the new KO rules and trying to get splash plays from him… dude avg. 32 yards a return in his small sample 4-5 yards better then anyone we have had back returning KO.

On top of that strong runner 4.6ypc last year just under 800 yards 7 tds and solid hands…. His only real weakness it seems is his pass protection and now he gets to learn from 2 very good RBs in pass protection in Barkley and Dillion

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Think the DL is fairly simple to break down

Orjomo/Carter are your DEs with Smith and Young behind them

Davis is your NT going to be on the field on the early downs to stop the run

Early downs Orjomo/Davis/Carter to focus on stopping the run… Smith/Carter/Young trio to get after the QB… Carter gets moved around to get the best matchup

I think a little different.

I think Carter and Davis are your starters at DT...with Smith and Hunt on the ends... Baun and Campbell are your LBs... your 3 CBs are Q, DeJean and the 3rd guy...with Blankenship and a healthy Mukuba as your starting safeties.

I think Ojomo goes in for Davis on passing downs...and they will rotate the DEs to keep them fresh, probably doesn't matter the downs.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Ham just wants Davis off the team... he wanted the safety from Baltimore so we will never hear the end of it...similar to years of crucifying Lane at the start of his career because he wanted Ziggy Anzah. Ziggy was all we heard, Lane needed steroids was so unreliable etc. That first game he struggled vs KC, we heard that for 3 years.

Davis will either be overpaid or once he leaves we get " I called it"

Same crap over and over

Yeah I did very much prefer Hamilton over Davis. Is what it is. But also point out the additional perks from Davis that we got Carter. I’m all about setting up an environment for Jalen Carter to thrive. He’ll wrecking ball that whole O.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I think a little different.

I think Carter and Davis are your starters at DT...with Smith and Hunt on the ends... Baun and Campbell are your LBs... your 3 CBs are Q, DeJean and the 3rd guy...with Blankenship and a healthy Mukuba as your starting safeties.

I think Ojomo goes in for Davis on passing downs...and they will rotate the DEs to keep them fresh, probably doesn't matter the downs.

I was looking at it from a 3-4 perspective definitely see Nolan and Hunt as the edges

If there is a big formation from the offense where they expect run early.... DeJean moves outside and Ojomo comes in for the starting CB opposite of Q.

If Ojomo would be listed as a " starter" in a 5 man line ( or 3 DT look) ...that means either DeJean or the other CB wouldn't be listed as a starter. Which is absolutely possible...but i don't think that is the case.

The base formation is the 4-2-5 ...the formation they play the most.

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3 hours ago, mattwill said:

Steelers who played the Jets. Brain fart.

Gains started ONE game for us and Ham has hated Gainwell since LOL

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah I did very much prefer Hamilton over Davis. Is what it is. But also point out the additional perks from Davis that we got Carter. I’m all about setting up an environment for Jalen Carter to thrive. He’ll wrecking ball that whole O.

We know...trust me...we know!

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Gains started ONE game for us and Ham has hated Gainwell since LOL

Ironically...similar to not liking Patullo scoring 3 TDs to start his OC career.....On the 2 drives to start that New England game Gainwell was crushing it... and they scored both times. Once he got banged up the offense struggled.

Such a Secondary test to face this week. Guys going to need to pull things together something quick.

Vic called Mukuba the Nickle S with DeJean in the Slot. Q and Adooree outside. With Blankenship leading on the backend.

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I was looking at it from a 3-4 perspective definitely see Nolan and Hunt as the edges

Sure... except from the math.. 3-4 means only 4 left to fill out the 11.... DeJean being your stud slot CB/ Nickel... it either moves him outside or takes him off the field.

I totally get the 3-4 idea.... just pointing out that we play a 4 man front more often than not...and Davis is more so a starting DT.

With that said... one should be able to understand where guys like Hall and Booker...theoretically back up NTs...have little value in a system that mostly plays 4 man front.

And also... once Dean comes back... the probability of straight up 4-3...with DeJean on the outside...probably increases.

Which leaves even less of 3-4 and Ojomo as a starter

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Such a Secondary test to face this week. Guys going to need to pull things together something quick.

Really...your boy Hollywood and who else...as compared to Lamb, Pickens and the Dallas WR crew?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Pickens had a nice game right out of the gate

I don't get what Ham sees... as far as " test for the secondary "

Let's compare Dallas WRs....when you don't have Carter rushing the passer...

Vs

KC WRs....when you have Carter in there causing problems up front.

How is KC situation more of a test???

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