April 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Just showing there is no way to define "top tier". As you can see top tier guys went at 17 and 22 It’s what you do preparing for the draft. Scout and rank. If you do a poor job identifying players nothing will help you in the draft anyway. I wouldn’t be shy about trading up for a Sauce Gardner or such players I coveted highly.
April 18, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: Forget philosophy...it's 2024....are you trading up for a WR now? You trading all that for a TE? It's not philosophy it's FACTS that 2 top tier WR's were taken at 17 and 22
April 18, 20241 yr Just now, joemas6 said: So the answer is you would trade up for a WR? Sure would. Really like all four of these guys.
April 18, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: It’s what you do preparing for the draft. Scout and rank. If you do a poor job identifying players nothing will help you in the draft anyway. I wouldn’t be shy about trading up for a Sauce Gardner or such players I coveted highly. Where was your boy Deebo selected?
April 18, 20241 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: It's not philosophy it's FACTS that 2 top tier WR's were taken at 17 and 22 And Tom Brady was taken day three.
April 18, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: I’d be willing to pay that price for any of those listed top tier prospects. See..i think you are saying this because you want a CB... you like the sizzle. Then after the draft you are going to say ... see I called it, we could have had that CB. So my counter... why wouldn't you do the trade when pick 9 goes on the clock so you can just pick your CB now. You love Smith... and AJ... no shot you would trade for a WR here.
April 18, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: And Tom Brady was taken day three. Yeah but your giving away a 5th(even leaving the 2 out of it lol) which you said didn' t matter. Brady was a round 6
April 18, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Sure would. Really like all four of these guys. Only 3 QBs go top 9... both CBs...and the top 3 WRs... now you have the 4tb WR....you would trade up all those picks for that guy?
April 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: See..i think you are saying this because you want a CB... you like the sizzle. Then after the draft you are going to say ... see I called it, we could have had that CB. So my counter... why wouldn't you do the trade when pick 9 goes on the clock so you can just pick your CB now. You love Smith... and AJ... no shot you would trade for a WR here. Doing the trade while on the clock would be most optimal. But you are forgetting there are other teams bidding out there. That trade might not still be around by then.
April 18, 20241 yr Just now, joemas6 said: Only 3 QBs go top 9... both CBs...and the top 3 WRs... now you have the 4tb WR....you would trade up all those picks for that guy? Yep
April 18, 20241 yr Author SO I'm giving up JJ(or Lamb) and Brady for some unknown pick 9? That's smart? Ok then I'm stupid
April 18, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Yeah but your giving away a 5th which you said didn' t matter. Brady was a round 6 Kelce was day three as well. Don’t even think our big FA signing was drafted(Huff)
April 18, 20241 yr Author It would be worth it IF Howie traded up to 9,then traded back and got more than he gave. I could see him dong that because he's good at it
April 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: SO I'm giving up JJ(or Lamb) and Brady for some unknown pick 9? That's smart? Ok then I'm stupid You are welcome to look at things however you wish. I absolutely believe there are times worth trading up in the draft. You clearly would give away all of your first two days of picks to stack day three sure fire Hall of Famers. I can be in favor of trading back also. But my viewpoint isn’t that I won’t trade a day three pick because that guy could have been ToM Brady.
April 18, 20241 yr Author TBH,for the record,besides Harrison I did not look at #1 WR's because we DON'T NEED ONE. I looked at slot guys that are gettable If we moved up for WR3 or 4 who are you losing? Just curious
April 18, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: You are welcome to look at things however you wish. I absolutely believe there are times worth trading up in the draft. You clearly would give away all of your first two days of picks to stack day three sure fire Hall of Famers. I can be in favor of trading back also. But my viewpoint isn’t that I won’t trade a day three pick because that guy could have been ToM Brady. Kelce was day 3 as you stated. it's a CRAPSHOOT and you should know this by now
April 18, 20241 yr Author 3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: You are welcome to look at things however you wish. I absolutely believe there are times worth trading up in the draft. You clearly would give away all of your first two days of picks to stack day three sure fire Hall of Famers. I can be in favor of trading back also. But my viewpoint isn’t that I won’t trade a day three pick because that guy could have been ToM Brady. So lets trade Hurts for the #1 QB because he is the TOP TIER. Hurts was only a round 2 one of which you want to give away
April 18, 20241 yr Author Sure Howie moves around,so do other teams,but like Joe said it should be for specific player(and you'd better nail it) not to move just to move
April 18, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: So lets trade Hurts for the #1 QB because he is the TOP TIER. Hurts was only a round 2 one of which you want to give away You know most of the season I was willing to draft Jayden Daniels with our first round pick….to backup Hurts. He’s moved a bit higher than 22 at this point however. We’ll be seeing a bunch of him(twice a year) it appears.
April 18, 20241 yr Author 7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: You are welcome to look at things however you wish. I absolutely believe there are times worth trading up in the draft. You clearly would give away all of your first two days of picks to stack day three sure fire Hall of Famers. I can be in favor of trading back also. But my viewpoint isn’t that I won’t trade a day three pick because that guy could have been ToM Brady. OK you make the trade. I would not.Done. You posed the question and I answered it. You don't like my answer
April 18, 20241 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: Sure Howie moves around,so do other teams,but like Joe said it should be for specific player(and you'd better nail it) not to move just to move I labeled it as grabbing one of the top tier ranked prospects in my view. That’s why you rank guys on a Big Board. Specifically top 5 prospect on the Big Board works for me. Specific enough.
April 18, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: You know most of the season I was willing to draft Jayden Daniels with our first round pick….to backup Hurts. He’s moved a bit higher than 22 at this point however. We’ll be seeing a bunch of him(twice a year) it appears. That's even dumber yet LOL A Pointless waste of a pick
April 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: OK you make the trade. I would not.Done. You posed the question and I answered it. You don't like my answer I’m absolutely fine with your answer. That’s what I was wondering. I differ. Which is fine.
April 18, 20241 yr Author Just now, cunninghamtheman said: I’m absolutely fine with your answer. That’s what I was wondering. I differ. Which is fine. I made my case,yet you can't tell me who you are taking at 9(he may no be there anyway)
April 18, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: I made my case,yet you can't tell me who you are taking at 9(he may no be there anyway) I listed it and repeated the quote. Not sure what else you want? Clearly he’ll be there as I listed 8 players.
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