Offer Cincy     22,53,211                  for 18,80,115 if DeJean is still on the board

So after all my analytics, research, weeding through scouting reports, stat sheets, watching highlights, and looking for information off the beaten path, I can say with certainty that your guess is as as good as mine 🤣 . Called it!!!!!

#2 pick in the WNBA draft is impressive Cameron Brink…whooaaa

https://www.latimes.com/sports/sparks/story/2024-04-15/wnba-draft-coverage-who-sparks-draft-with-second-fourth-picks

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

#2 pick in the WNBA draft is impressive Cameron Brink…whooaaa

Meh

If we don't trade our pick should be at around 10:30

5 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

If we don't trade our pick should be at around 10:30

The way it usually works is I stay up to watch it then Howie trades it the pick before

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

The way it usually works is I stay up to watch it then Howie trades it the pick before

How shocking would it be if he doesn’t trade the pick?

I can see us moving up for Mitchell or Arnold and I'd be more than OK with that. Don't see us moving back. Would like Guyton if that's the guy Lane's picked to come to Stout U

 

I can see the draft being on 4/25/24 8:00 - 11:30 PM ET. LOL

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

I can see us moving up for Mitchell or Arnold and I'd be more than OK with that. Don't see us moving back. Would like Guyton if that's the guy Lane's picked to come to Stout U

 

I’d be for that for sure. Can’t see it happening though. But maybe…just maybe…our D being so disgustingly bad in pass coverage last season forces Rosie’s hand. Can the fact we were 31st in pass D overpower Rosie to finally compel him he needs to grab that quality DB finally? One can hope.

2 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

I can see us moving up for Mitchell or Arnold and I'd be more than OK with that. Don't see us moving back. Would like Guyton if that's the guy Lane's picked to come to Stout U

 

I move for DeJean. He's the best fit IMO and if Howie wants to "shock and awe" he breaks tradition and "does the right thing". If DeJean is there at 16, I trade with the Hawks. It would be better if we took the risk and waited until 18 for Dejean and traded with Cincy. The RG spot is very fixable with a guy in round 2(like Beebe). 22 to 16 would be the biggest lift I would do though. Could be either the Hawks or Cincy trades up for Bowers with the Jets

DeVonta Smith has been pumping iron so much they are calling him Swole Batman. Said he’s up to 190

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d be for that for sure. Can’t see it happening though. But maybe…just maybe…our D being so disgustingly bad in pass coverage last season forces Rosie’s hand. Can the fact we were 31st in pass D overpower Rosie to finally compel him he needs to grab that quality DB finally? One can hope.

I think he would have drafted CB a few times if the opportunity presented itself.  I think we would have the CB from Denver if he was there.

This year I would assume he has trade targets to move up for... specifically CBs... not WR or TE.  That's why if a trade is made...it will be for a specific player and not just a spot to get 5th or whatever rated player on their board!

But I think the biggest improvement on the defense would be less of this...

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d be for that for sure. Can’t see it happening though. But maybe…just maybe…our D being so disgustingly bad in pass coverage last season forces Rosie’s hand. Can the fact we were 31st in pass D overpower Rosie to finally compel him he needs to grab that quality DB finally? One can hope.

I would actually like to see us nab 2 of them and a LB as well even if 2/3 of those require a years wait. I would like DeJean(123's boy). He will succeed in the NFL no matter who gets him. Secondary and O line should be the highest priorities. If he did well in camp,.there is no reason Dejean can't contribute out of the gate. But this is Howie we're talking about and I feel I will be disappointed that he ignores those positions like always. Even at 22,50,53 there is no reason we cannot get good players. I seriously want Ainias Smith in the slot. He's gettable as a late round WR and could impact next year,even getting a few reps in this next year. I would also like a TE to work with since previous choices have not seemed to climb the ladder to solid #2 status. We need to keep bringing those in until we find someone who can step up. We also need to add a RB in the draft and pick up another FA. I was sorry to see Scott go,he was at least a solid BU. But time to give another young guy a shot and there are nice RB's to steal with a late pick. It's kind of weird for me not to be looking at top WR's because we already have 2 and that's what I am best at. That being said,I wish Harrison the best,he's going to be outstanding if he has a decent QB. 3 WR's I have targeted. Smith as I mentioned, Malik Washington and as a REAL late pick,Tahj Washington from USC. Any of those 3 would be serviceable in the slot going forward

35 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I think he would have drafted CB a few times if the opportunity presented itself.  I think we would have the CB from Denver if he was there.

This year I would assume he has trade targets to move up for... specifically CBs... not WR or TE.  That's why if a trade is made...it will be for a specific player and not just a spot to get 5th or whatever rated player on their board!

But I think the biggest improvement on the defense would be less of this...

yeah this was AWFUL and we kept doing it anyway. I understand you don't want to get beat deep,but giving away free first down's is just as bad lol

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2024/consensus-big-board-2024  Right now they have him falling in our laps at 22,which would be more than fine by me

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

DeVonta Smith has been pumping iron so much they are calling him Swole Batman. Said he’s up to 190

I like Smith he has a good work ethic. Doesn't lip off,just does his job quietly. Any weight and strength added would make him just that much better.

31 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2024/consensus-big-board-2024  Right now they have him falling in our laps at 22,which would be more than fine by me

I think Wiggins will be a good CB. But not the right guy we need there.

If you are a step ahead on the thinking here this draft you are realizing which players are likely to be cut loose during or after the draft. Swift trade. CGJ trade. Those type examples and more. Several quality options are coming up to bring in these vets. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/alvin-kamara-wins-fishing-tournament-in-florida/ar-AA1npgIT?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=e6626f26478d4aafa82e3ca690f69a29&ei=37

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If you are a step ahead on the thinking here this draft you are realizing which players are likely to be cut loose during or after the draft. Swift trade. CGJ trade. Those type examples and more. Several quality options are coming up to bring in these vets. 

Sure,but we need youth not more old men injections. And who cuts youth unless they are 2nd rate?

15 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think Wiggins will be a good CB. But not the right guy we need there.

Why I choose DeJean. I just read an article about owners and such mocks and us taking Latu had the most votes

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If you are a step ahead on the thinking here this draft you are realizing which players are likely to be cut loose during or after the draft. Swift trade. CGJ trade. Those type examples and more. Several quality options are coming up to bring in these vets. 

Hmmm....  is it being a step ahead though?   Because I recall you saying Howie was lucky that guys became available 2 years ago???   

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hmmm....  is it being a step ahead though?   Because I recall you saying Howie was lucky that guys became available 2 years ago???   

Gathering information is the game. I’ve already been hearing about plenty of talented options expected to shake loose for varying reasons. To get us to Championship Roster levels right now…we are definitely going to need some luck.