I just don’t see Hurts being historically great at converting short yardage as a negative. Other than he takes such massive extra abuse on these plays. Clearly wears on his body. NFL pileups are dangerous. You’d get arrested for doing what some of those guys do down there..anywhere else.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rosie was in charge before that but lost his job basically. This was the start of Part Deux of Rosie.

I'm comparing Howie vs Dak....I'm not even going into anything the last 27 years.... just this era.  It's not close for results.   

Dallas drafts better....that's it.   The rest isn't close...the results aren't close.  

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I did instead of Swift and Gainwell at the goaline.

You did.  It was important on 1st and goal to sneak it in?   

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I just don’t see Hurts being historically great at converting short yardage as a negative. Other than he takes such massive extra abuse on these plays. Clearly wears on his body. NFL pileups are dangerous. You’d get arrested for doing what some of those guys do down there..anywhere else.

Well the rest of us see it a the team and mostly the OL.   But you know... let's not beat a dead horse here...it's sunny outside today... you think Hurts is the reason.   

I enjoy when our Eagles score TDs. Hurts did it best we’ve ever seen. Proud of him accomplishing that last season. It was despite all the crap he had to overcome doing it.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You did.  It was important on 1st and goal to sneak it in?   

Yes it was

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes it was

Always important to score that TD

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Well the rest of us see it a the team and mostly the OL.   But you know... let's not beat a dead horse here...it's sunny outside today... you think Hurts is the reason.   

He’s not blocking the sun with his big head like your choice Wentz did instead

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I enjoy when our Eagles score TDs. Hurts did it best we’ve ever seen. Proud of him accomplishing that last season. It was despite all the crap he had to overcome doing it.

That's great...the little overachiever that nobody thinks could do it.   Hey little bro...you did great.   

It's a different world now.   No longer little brother.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s not blocking the sun with his big head like your choice Wentz did instead

Well... we shall see... one has a ring. 

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s not blocking the sun with his big head like your choice Wentz did instead

The guy who threw for the franchise record with Greg Ward...imagine if he had Smith and AJ? 

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Well the rest of us see it a the team and mostly the OL.   But you know... let's not beat a dead horse here...it's sunny outside today... you think Hurts is the reason.   

Yet you keep stating this stuff. Acting like our Oline makes the running game…RB isn’t a factor. Yet big SB game couldn’t run the ball for crap except for Hurts. Bucs really given problems for us running the ball both postseason losses. Think you can see the difference this season. Barkley will rock and roll it…that’s after Kelce retired.

Hurts is in the league due to his running.   Prove me wrong.   Below average passer blessed with 2 outstanding WRs and a quality TE

We shall see if he can develop his passing game...because the running isn't going to last much longer.  

3 years left to see.  Certainly can't complain about the supporting cast. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yet you keep stating this stuff. Acting like our Oline makes the running game…RB isn’t a factor. Yet big SB game couldn’t run the ball for crap except for Hurts. Bucs really given problems for us running the ball both postseason losses. Think you can see the difference this season. Barkley will rock and roll it…that’s after Kelce retired.

I keep saying that I'm concerned about my QB passing...not running.  Every bs stat you bring up from him involves running.   That's a problem.  The guys who have won the Lombardi are the passers, not the runners. 

We have been waiting our whole lives for this duo of WRs... did we waste them on a running QB?  

Idk...but he can sure sneak it in on 1st and goal after Dickerson makes the hole.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The guy who threw for the franchise record with Greg Ward...imagine if he had Smith and AJ? 

Would be a complete disaster AJ butting heads with Wentz. Of course Wentz couldn’t bring in AJ(or anything like him). But clearly things would have been so much better if Rosie didn’t terribly destroy our SB team so quickly. Rosie really did a poor job. Wentz got on a heck of a heater there for the last three if games in 2019. Would you make a huge point to highlight his opponents in those games if it was Hurts instead? Abso-freakin-lutelty! That’s all you’d talk about…if it was Hurts. Hurts does it with Reagor and Quez and you just poo poo Hurts over his competition.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hurts is in the league due to his running.   Prove me wrong.   Below average passer blessed with 2 outstanding WRs and a quality TE

We shall see if he can develop his passing game...because the running isn't going to last much longer.  

3 years left to see.  Certainly can't complain about the supporting cast. 

All you said before Hurts became a starter. All you said before his runner up MVP season. All you keep hating on Hurts with your attempts. All he does is prove you wrong every time. You have no clue what happened for our only SB victory season. You have no clue what all makes Hurts so great! 

You don’t comprehend leadership and intangible qualities value. So after trying to highlight and point all this out so exhaustively to you…I know better than to believe I can explain how much a factor these are as a football player and QB. You just aren’t going to get it. You champion a bigger arm throwing up large stats over leadership coming from a top notch competitor refuses to lose.

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Would be a complete disaster AJ butting heads with Wentz. Of course Wentz couldn’t bring in AJ(or anything like him). But clearly things would have been so much better if Rosie didn’t terribly destroy our SB team so quickly. Rosie really did a poor job. Wentz got on a heck of a heater there for the last three if games in 2019. Would you make a huge point to highlight his opponents in those games if it was Hurts instead? Abso-freakin-lutelty! That’s all you’d talk about…if it was Hurts. Hurts does it with Reagor and Quez and you just poo poo Hurts over his competition.

I don't think so....I think AJ would get more long TDs...less jump balls.  But who cares...Wentz was dealt a 2 - 7 off suit... Hurts has the pocket aces...only thing I'm interested in is if he can win with this excellent hand he has been dealt.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You don’t comprehend leadership and intangible qualities value. So after trying to highlight and point all this out so exhaustively to you…I know better than to believe I can explain how much a factor these are as a football player and QB. You just aren’t going to get it. You champion a bigger arm throwing up large stats over leadership coming from a top notch competitor refuses to lose.

Ham... stop it !!!   It's over now....the " Tangible " thing of reading a defense and making a throw is what is going to matter. 

The leadership is what is being questioned...stop with 2022....  Hurts and Reddick in 2023 ..neither were close.   

Is it a bounce back...or staying in mediocrity?  We shall see.  It's a big year for Hurts and the team.

So many reports coming out and I'm not liking the ex players in the media questioning my QB.   The idiot career media guys are one thing...the ex players are opinions I value more.   

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah what were you going to do? Hand it off to Gainwell or Swift? Call a guy whatever you want that sets our franchise record for scoring TDs. I’m all for it!

The Oline scored them

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You don’t comprehend leadership and intangible qualities value. So after trying to highlight and point all this out so exhaustively to you…I know better than to believe I can explain how much a factor these are as a football player and QB. You just aren’t going to get it. You champion a bigger arm throwing up large stats over leadership coming from a top notch competitor refuses to lose.

I champion... guys who can convert 3rd downs passing the ball... who can throw for TDs.   2 big 3rd downs we couldn't convert..cost us the SB. 

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ham... stop it !!!   It's over now....the " Tangible " thing of reading a defense and making a throw is what is going to matter. 

The leadership is what is being questioned...stop with 2022....  Hurts and Reddick in 2023 ..neither were close.   

Is it a bounce back...or staying in mediocrity?  We shall see.  It's a big year for Hurts and the team.

Hurts showcased plenty of that last season breaking our Franchise records. He came through in the clutch and got us to victory reaching 10-1. Commanded the second ranked O up to that point. Hurts been forced to do it with lesser coaching. Lesser scheme and gameplanning. 

23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Of course Wentz couldn’t bring in AJ(or anything like him).

Howie brought in AJ, in the deal you hated LOL 

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ham... stop it !!!   It's over now....the " Tangible " thing of reading a defense and making a throw is what is going to matter. 

The leadership is what is being questioned...stop with 2022....  Hurts and Reddick in 2023 ..neither were close.   

Is it a bounce back...or staying in mediocrity?  We shall see.  It's a big year for Hurts and the team.

Yep I said it's "showtime" and got flak for it (but it is)