55 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

With your logic I wouldn’t have brought in Saquan. He’s an All In going for it addition. Top dollar vet RB addition isn’t a move to make for a rebuilder.

Why?   This is where you lose me.   You think these college kids can come in here and automatically dominate year 1. I don't see it that way.  Look across top 5 of each draft. You tell me they all work out to being impact NFL player?

You absolutely sign Barkley and all the other guys to the 3 years that we have Hurts here for sure.  You think coincidence 3 year deals for new guys?

You keep some of your assets to trade for a vet if you want the short term help..  not " Dax' of a rookie. 

The rookies are for the long term investment.  Can they help rookie year, sure.  If you give up all those picks ...you move up to get one of the OTs or WRs.... because the CBs went off the board before 9 was on the clock.

Now what....you think the roster is complete?  Now how do you make the trade for a vet to help now.  You give up the round 2 pick in 2025?

Now what do you got....pick 1, 5, 7, 7 for next year.  

Not to mention 2 lost picks already from 2024.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What draft hasn’t provided 5 stud players? There is always a dropoff of that top tier elite talent. But top 5 eliminates that posssibility….in any draft ever. Last year I was real clear on grabbing Carter….or we missed out. Kept talking about the Saints trade having to be a top 10 pick. Turned out to be exactly 10. But then once the class shook out…10 still wasn’t quite good enough. The spot was 9.

Define "stud" player. And how many years do they take to develop? Was Kelce(stud) a round 1 player? Some drafts have CRAP talent. Just because one guy is ranked over another on those doesn't make them studs. College studs can fail miserably in the NFL,we see it all the time. Stud players can also have EGOS that screw up the entire team,so use that word carefully

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Why?   This is where you lose me.   You think these college kids can come in here and automatically dominate year 1. I don't see it that way.  Look across top 5 of each draft. You tell me they all work out to being impact NFL player?

You absolutely sign Barkley and all the other guys to the 3 years that we have Hurts here for sure.  You think coincidence 3 year deals for new guys?

You keep some of your assets to trade for a vet if you want the short term help..  not " Dax' of a rookie. 

The rookies are for the long term investment.  Can they help rookie year, sure.  If you give up all those picks ...you move up to get one of the OTs or WRs.... because the CBs went off the board before 9 was on the clock.

Now what....you think the roster is complete?  Now how do you make the trade for a vet to help now.  You give up the round 2 pick in 2025?

Now what do you got....pick 1, 5, 7, 7 for next year.  

Not to mention 2 lost picks already from 2024.

He wants to throw in the towel,breach contracts, and raise the white flag because we DARED to see if Bellicheat could take this team to a SB over Siri. They decided he could not. he(Bellicheat) was also rebuffed in Atlanta. I DO wish Siri would grow a set at times,but laid back is just his style. Losing DOM on the sidelines should not have affected him like it did and Siri needs to grow up not hold onto Doms apron strings on the sideline

If we cancelled Barks contract/promise of same, no player would ever want to play here again(and with good reason)

So(back to the KO rules). How the hell does the league handle this because it's a 'trial run". teams will have to alter the players they have/had for ST's to different ones. So say you cut some guys to find better ones for THIS year. Then they decide to go back to the old rules,but then the players you cut loose could be hired elsewhere. i really don't think they thought all this out at all. Now if you had to go back to the old way, you'd have to go get all those players you changed out. When you put "smart guys" in a room it's like turning your 3 year old loose unattended in your kitchen with all the doors open. Expect a mess  and they sure delivered on that 🤣

39 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They looked at Belicheat and decided they didn't want him. This is gargantuan news?? The Eagles org always turns over every rock,so they can make informed decisions. Why do you TMZ every run of the mill piece of "news" from "a source"? Who was the source,the secretary serving coffee???. Teams do tend to scout around when you go 10-1 then lose 6 of your last 7 while on your way to pilfering a SB appearance

No…teams tend to fire HC that lose their team like that.

20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He wants to throw in the towel,breach contracts, and raise the white flag because we DARED to see if Bellicheat could take this team to a SB over Siri. They decided he could not. he(Bellicheat) was also rebuffed in Atlanta. I DO wish Siri would grow a set at times,but laid back is just his style. Losing DOM on the sidelines should not have affected him like it did and Siri needs to grow up not hold onto Doms apron strings on the sideline

Forget Belicheck  ...why wasn't he hired across the league.  His time is done.   Stop with TMZ.... it's the job of the front office to have conversations.   At least the good ones put in the work.  

Back to reality.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No…teams tend to fire HC that lose their team like that.

Kinda like 2020.

46 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They looked at Belicheat and decided they didn't want him. This is gargantuan news?? The Eagles org always turns over every rock,so they can make informed decisions. Why do you TMZ every run of the mill piece of "news" from "a source"? Who was the source,the secretary serving coffee???. Teams do tend to scout around when you go 10-1 then lose 6 of your last 7 while on your way to pilfering a SB appearance

It’s different if you fired the HC then conduct interviews. They interviewed Bellicheat while Siri was still our HC. That’s noteworthy…and very telling.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s different if you fired the HC then conduct interviews. They interviewed Bellicheat while Siri was still our HC. That’s noteworthy…and very telling.

They spoke with Belicheck... wow, shocking?  Lurie is a Boston guy...the model of how they did a lot of things contract wise, and some roster stuff has been modeled after NE style.

You think it takes a full interview to get to where Belicheck wants full control?

You get that in the first minute... but you would be stupid not to pick his brain while you have him.

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No…teams tend to fire HC that lose their team like that.

We made the playoffs 3 years in a row???? Hurts lost the team

Just now, joemas6 said:

They spoke with Belicheck... wow, shocking?  Lurie is a Boston guy...the model of how they did a lot of things contract wise, and some roster stuff has been modeled after NE style.

You think it takes a full interview to get to where Belicheck wants full control?

You get that in the first minute... but you would be stupid not to pick his brain while you have him.

Especially defensively.   Which I absolutely think was main motivation for a conversation. 

34 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Define "stud" player. And how many years do they take to develop? Was Kelce(stud) a round 1 player? Some drafts have CRAP talent. Just because one guy is ranked over another on those doesn't make them studs. College studs can fail miserably in the NFL,we see it all the time. Stud players can also have EGOS that screw up the entire team,so use that word carefully

You have to rank the prospects well or you are screwed anyway. Different tiers on your board. Top 5 on your big board…better be a stud player.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s different if you fired the HC then conduct interviews. They interviewed Bellicheat while Siri was still our HC. That’s noteworthy…and very telling.

Why would you fire someone without knowing who you are replacing them with during the season?? They interviewed Bellicheat to see if they thought he would be better for the team. Why would they lose Siri until they found that out?

31 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He wants to throw in the towel,breach contracts, and raise the white flag because we DARED to see if Bellicheat could take this team to a SB over Siri. They decided he could not. he(Bellicheat) was also rebuffed in Atlanta. I DO wish Siri would grow a set at times,but laid back is just his style. Losing DOM on the sidelines should not have affected him like it did and Siri needs to grow up not hold onto Doms apron strings on the sideline

Laid back is not the style anybody else describes Siri as

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s different if you fired the HC then conduct interviews. They interviewed Bellicheat while Siri was still our HC. That’s noteworthy…and very telling.

it tells Siri(or should) he needs to get on the stick and bring home the Lombardi

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

We made the playoffs 3 years in a row???? Hurts lost the tesm

The media is hilarious.... really talking bad about his demeanor/ leadership evolution.   The former players are mentioning it...which to me makes it food for thought,  too many nerdy know it all hosts thar I don't pay attention to,  but I like the former player perspective.  We got Ike Reese, Hugh Douglas and Jon Ritchie on the radio with Barrett Brooks on TV.   Their opinion are ones I pay attention to. 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You have to rank the prospects well or you are screwed anyway. Different tiers on your board. Top 5 on your big board…better be a stud player.

But why just 5? 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Laid back is not the style anybody else describes Siri as

It's how I describe him because I want to. He doesn't throw things or get upset much and relies on a security head to make him comfy. Pretty wimpy actually

29 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If we cancelled Barks contract/promise of same, no player would ever want to play here again(and with good reason)

Nobody ever talked about canceling Saquan’s contract. The point would be never doing it in the first place because this is the judgement on the state of the team. Decided to make the signing..IN THE FIRST PLACE…that’s what I’m discussing. Do..or do not. Do: sign a top dollar vet RB to contend for a title. Don’t: if you aren’t in a position to be a real contender..skip the top dollar vet RB signing.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You have to rank the prospects well or you are screwed anyway. Different tiers on your board. Top 5 on your big board…better be a stud player.

Who were the first 5 picks the year we took Lane at 4?   You trading up for ALL of them?

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You have to rank the prospects well or you are screwed anyway. Different tiers on your board. Top 5 on your big board…better be a stud player.

Define "stud"

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Forget Belicheck  ...why wasn't he hired across the league.  His time is done.   Stop with TMZ.... it's the job of the front office to have conversations.   At least the good ones put in the work.  

Back to reality.

They are the ones interviewed him…without firing Siri first.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nobody ever talked about canceling Saquan’s contract. The point would be never doing it in the first place because this is the judgement on the state of the team. Decided to make the signing..IN THE FIRST PLACE…that’s what I’m discussing. Do..or do not. Do: sign a top dollar vet RB to contend for a title. Don’t: if you aren’t in a position to be a real contender..skip the top dollar vet RB signing.

You sign a guy for 3 years...to play for 3 years.

Your one year deal ...if you spend a lot...that's your all in.

Like Tony Pollard last year... that's all in at 10.7 mil.   What is Barkley's cap hit this year?

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Kinda like 2020.

Rosie lost the 2017 team…totally different. Pedey didn’t lose anything. Injuries, cap and personnel were problems.