January 28, 20241 yr He was having a career year and is a "great fit in Vic Fangio’s system,” per @DrewJRosenhaus about Ginkel
January 28, 20241 yr Not quite getting the Kellen Moore hiring. Cowboys looked much better after him this season. But put together two coordinators that could be viewed as more long term options at their post.
January 28, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Cowboys looked much better after him this season. Didn’t Moore coach nothing but top 5 Os with the cowboys…. One of those years weren’t Dallas ranked #1
January 28, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: But put together two coordinators that could be viewed as more long term options at their post I wouldn’t go that far Fangio I think is safe for as long as Siri here but Moore is only 35 and was a hot name… Chargers were even blocking teams until they hired Harbaugh…
January 28, 20241 yr "People keep making the same mistake, equating a disappointing season or stretch of games with a guy who’ll never be elite again. From late in 2021 to the middle of 2023, Hurts went 27-2 with 44 TD passes and 17 interceptions (and 29 rushing touchdowns). It’s one of the most impressive stretches of quarterback play in Eagles history. And now a shaky month and a half under a quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator about to get fired in an unimaginative, stale offense with the head coach and play caller out of sync somehow renders all of that irrelevant?” Roob’s Observation
January 28, 20241 yr I just want to see any coach pretty much dedicated to run the ball and will highlight the quick timing passing game.
January 28, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: These coordinator hirings feel like Rosie/Lurie decisions. Instead of Reich under Pedey …Moore was considered. Then Moore was considered for the HC gig instead of Siri. Now he comes in to takeover the O.
January 28, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: I just want to see any coach pretty much dedicated to run the ball and will highlight the quick timing passing game. Well you not getting that with Moore. He likes to pass…. Is it shocking though we have an owner and by extension a GM that believes you have to pass to win.
January 28, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Instead of Reich under Pedey …Moore was considered. Then Moore was considered for the HC gig instead of Siri. Now he comes in to takeover the O. Maybe I’m misunderstanding but it’s sounding like you’re saying we wanted Moore under Doug over Reich…. Moore wasnt even coaching when we hired Doug lol… Now if your saying we opted for Moore over Reich for Siri not surprising Moore is still consider a young up coming OC. Been calling plays for 5 years now and is only 35. Lurie always wanted to be seen as innovative and ahead of the game getting a young OC with good amount of experience and loves to pass seems like a match made in heaven
January 28, 20241 yr With Moore at OC would we consider Zeke at RB for a year I wonder???? Need a veteran player that knows Moore’s O also gives us that bigger more physical RB we have lacked. And Zeke should come cheap
January 28, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: These coordinator hirings feel like Rosie/Lurie decisions. Wow..... the light bulb finally went off? What gave it away 3 years after the only SB winning coach wasn't allowed to pick his coordinators? What in the organization doesn't feel like a Lurie/ Howie decision?
January 28, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: Maybe I’m misunderstanding but it’s sounding like you’re saying we wanted Moore under Doug over Reich…. Moore wasnt even coaching when we hired Doug lol… Now if your saying we opted for Moore over Reich for Siri not surprising Moore is still consider a young up coming OC. Been calling plays for 5 years now and is only 35. Lurie always wanted to be seen as innovative and ahead of the game getting a young OC with good amount of experience and loves to pass seems like a match made in heaven Yes...it was Howie's fault we didn't draft LB in first round since 1979. He was in nursery school...but still had influence.
January 28, 20241 yr Well we paid the QB and Moore is going to pass… Moore got the most out of Dak who you can say has a limited arm as well. Definitely think Moore can build an O that will maximize Hurts as a passer.
January 28, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: Maybe I’m misunderstanding but it’s sounding like you’re saying we wanted Moore under Doug over Reich…. Moore wasnt even coaching when we hired Doug lol… Now if your saying we opted for Moore over Reich for Siri not surprising Moore is still consider a young up coming OC. Been calling plays for 5 years now and is only 35. Lurie always wanted to be seen as innovative and ahead of the game getting a young OC with good amount of experience and loves to pass seems like a match made in heaven I should have said after Reich. We went with Groh and he wanted to roll with Press.
January 28, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said: Well we paid the QB and Moore is going to pass… Moore got the most out of Dak who you can say has a limited arm as well. Definitely think Moore can build an O that will maximize Hurts as a passer. I thought McCarthy just got the most out of Dak. He had his best season.
January 28, 20241 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: I should have said after Reich. We went with Groh and he wanted to roll with Press. Again Moore wasn’t even coaching until 2018 and he was a QB coach…. Find it hard to believe we wanted Moore as OC in 2018 when he was never a coach before… maybe in 2019 when he actually took over as OC in Dallas
January 28, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: I thought McCarthy just got the most out of Dak. He had his best season. You mean like 2021 when Dak had almost identical stats in 1 fewer game??? Could even argue Dak had the benefit of better weapons in Dallas this year along with better D Can add that Dallas was #1 O in terms of points and yards in 2021 as well under Moore
January 28, 20241 yr "A.J. Brown’s disappearance the second half of the season is as egregious as anything the offensive coaching staff did this past year. Whether it was Sirianni’s structure or Johnson’s play calling doesn’t matter. A big task for the new OC will be finding ways to keep Brown productive all year, no matter what opposing defenses do to try to take him away. When Sirianni talks about the offense getting stale, a big part of that is the passing game growing predictable and easy to defend. Through Week 8, Brown was the 2nd -leading receiver in the NFL with 117 yards per game, second only to Tyreek Hill’s 127 yards per game. The rest of the year, Brown averaged just 57 yards per game. There is absolutely no excuse for a player as gifted as Brown to experience that sort of dropoff. Brown’s final numbers look great – 106-for-1,456 – but that’s a 51 percent decline in production the second half of the season. Brown’s 939 yards were 8th-most in NFL history through eight games. His 513 yards after that ranked 31st in the league from Week 9 on. For a guy like Brown? That’s inexcusable and the blame goes squarely on the coaching staff.” Another of Roob’s Observations
January 28, 20241 yr https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/27/philadelphia-eagles-hire-kellen-moore-offensive-coordinator-nick-sirianni/
January 28, 20241 yr 44 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Really career defining moment for Lamar here. Pretty big moment for all of them. AR and Mahomes go to another SB get a 3rd ring they are the modern dynasty even after a shaky start to the season
January 28, 20241 yr Think there is a great argument to be made that AR is the greatest coach of all time. Obviously Belicheat has the rings but the success AR has had in Philly then KC and numerous of different QBs. For all the success Belicheat had in NE with Brady he failed as a HC in Cleveland and he failed without Brady in NE
January 28, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: "People keep making the same mistake, equating a disappointing season or stretch of games with a guy who’ll never be elite again. From late in 2021 to the middle of 2023, Hurts went 27-2 with 44 TD passes and 17 interceptions (and 29 rushing touchdowns). It’s one of the most impressive stretches of quarterback play in Eagles history. And now a shaky month and a half under a quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator about to get fired in an unimaginative, stale offense with the head coach and play caller out of sync somehow renders all of that irrelevant?” Roob’s Observation "There’s no question Hurts has to make better decisions. Has to cut down the turnovers. Has to get rid of the ball quicker. Has to use better judgment when to run and when to stay in the pocket.” also roobs observation…. All things I’ve hit on numerous times this season. I haven’t heard anyone of this board say hurts can’t return but we see the obvious weaknesses that need to improve. Really no different than what we have talked about with every QB on this team.
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