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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Toth is older. But the guy stinks at shotgun snapping. It was so bad they were forced to make the move last offseason. He’s like our fifth best C…yet he’s in the second string taking snaps at C. His worst position along the line.

Can't say I am a Toth fan,but they have to work out everyone at camp to make informed cut decisions. Just because he takes snaps doesn't mean he will be on the 53. We got the C from NC state as a rook prospect. NC state was a fairly formidable team last year  and he was the O line anchor

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5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Can't say I am a Toth fan,but they have to work out everyone at camp to make informed cut decisions. Just because he takes snaps doesn't mean he will be on the 53. We got the C from NC state as a rook prospect. NC state was a fairly formidable team last year  and he was the O line anchor

He’s a much better option as the second team C

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s a much better option as the second team C

Agreed,Did Toth do any work as a RG BU? I thought he was in a few games? I don't recall

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4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s a much better option as the second team C

Yeah but he hasn't been here long. Takes time to adjust to the NFL and learn the plays and how we make the C calls. So I imagine if he is 1/2 way coherent he will be seeing some time later

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah but he hasn't been here long. Takes time to adjust to the NFL and learn the plays and how we make the C calls. So I imagine if he is 1/2 way coherent he will be seeing some time later

They just try to make sure rookies aren’t handed anything. Hennessy they have as second team RG…that’s what’s creating this issue.

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They just try to make sure rookies aren’t handed anything. Hennessy they have as second team RG…that’s what’s creating this issue.

Well once again,they need to see guys play,not go by last year,especially since the new coaches need to see these players in action they have never seen before. So everyone gets a shot,then you know who to keep. I would suspect the rook C stays on even if it's the PS

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7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They just try to make sure rookies aren’t handed anything. Hennessy they have as second team RG…that’s what’s creating this issue.

Yeah Toth listed as a T/G

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Toth is older. But the guy stinks at shotgun snapping. It was so bad they were forced to make the move last offseason. He’s like our fifth best C…yet he’s in the second string taking snaps at C. His worst position along the line.

So ...Hurts can improve reading " the complicated NFL defenses"   but a dude can't improve flipping a ball 5 yards through his legs?

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They just try to make sure rookies aren’t handed anything. Hennessy they have as second team RG…that’s what’s creating this issue.

If the Eagles pay you half a million dollars or whatever. ...you have no other job... you don't think a year from now you could snap a football?

Like that's it... you can only learn snapping a football by a certain age? 

Yet magically a guy could learn to process and make decisions reading a " complicated NFL defense" ...because he can squat 600 lbs? 

19 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Why would you want to pay him $2 million?

What Scott made as a backup just seems like the amount the eagles would be willing to spend on a backup RB…. 

19 hours ago, joemas6 said:

What does Sanders offer the team?   He is a first and second down RB...gives nothing as far as pass blocking or receiving and nothing on special teams.      

He could pay the Eagles to play...still makes no sense.

Exactly what you stated a backup RB capable of filling the early down roles in the likely possibility Barkley misses time.  And even spell Barkley on those early downs at times.

Sanders was also a pretty solid pass blocker even if he wasn’t a great receiver. 
 

So yea at the price of 2m which is what we paid Boston Scott last year yea id be alright with him as the backup think he is better option then Scott was and what Gainwell offers us now as well.

20 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Zero,we have the RB's we need,don't see a need to pay anyone else. If Bark went down we can add one. Gains Ship and the other kid would be ok in rotational RBBC. Would just need to alter the playbook a bit

What does it hurt to pay a player of its an upgrade? Obviously wouldn’t pay Sanders contract but finding a guy around that 2m mark for a year like we paid Scott last year that could be an upgrade over Gains don’t see any problem with it. 

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2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

What does it hurt to pay a player of its an upgrade? Obviously wouldn’t pay Sanders contract but finding a guy around that 2m mark for a year like we paid Scott last year that could be an upgrade over Gains don’t see any problem with it. 

Why pay before you know what Shipley can do? Why pay before you see who gets cut from other teams. I see no rush on this if we add one at all. If we do,fine but no need to rush out before the smoke clears

Key part of it was WR Terrace Marshall. Was thinking he’s better than his non production has shown in Charlotte so far.

7 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Exactly what you stated a backup RB capable of filling the early down roles in the likely possibility Barkley misses time.  And even spell Barkley on those early downs at times.

Sanders was also a pretty solid pass blocker even if he wasn’t a great receiver. 
 

So yea at the price of 2m which is what we paid Boston Scott last year yea id be alright with him as the backup think he is better option then Scott was and what Gainwell offers us now as well.

So basically...he sits until Barkley gets hurt....for $2 million.     

Boston Scott played special teams.   Like he actually played ... Sanders won't play unless Barkley gets hurt.

It's not 2019 rookie Sanders...it's the Sanders that fumbled twice in the Superbowl that they wanted no part of resigning. 

I realize you are a Penn State fan... but that ship has sailed. 

Btw...spending $2 mil on Scott  when they other 2 guys cost you less... compared to paying Sanders that after Barkley was signed.... I don't think they spend that additional money on the position. 

Scott was popular in the locker room...and played special teams.  Sanders gives neither.

7 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

What does it hurt to pay a player of its an upgrade? Obviously wouldn’t pay Sanders contract but finding a guy around that 2m mark for a year like we paid Scott last year that could be an upgrade over Gains don’t see any problem with it. 

Sanders in 2024...not an upgrade.

Dak Prescott’s 189 passes without an interception the most by a quarterback at the Linc, it’s 2nd-most by any quarterback ever at any stadium.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Dak Prescott’s 189 passes without an interception the most by a quarterback at the Linc, it’s 2nd-most by any quarterback ever at any stadium.

How is his win percentage in those games?

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

How is his win percentage in those games?

Whats he won about as many as he’s lost……I don’t know what it is it? 3-3

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Whats he won about as many as he’s lost……I don’t know what it is it? 3-3

He only threw 189 passes in 6 games?

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Whats he won about as many as he’s lost……I don’t know what it is it? 3-3

It's a weird situation with Dak in Philly

2023... Eagles win

2022... Dak out

2021...Dak beats Eagles backups last week of season as Eagles rest for playoffs 

2020... Dak out

2019... Dak chokes as Eagles win the battle for division 

2018... Dak wins

2017 ... Dak wins 6-0 vs backups like 2021

2016... Dak plays a series

In reality Dak is 1-2 in Philly... win in 2018... losses in 2019 and 2023.   But congrats on beating the backups twice on meaningless games at the end. 

What would be nice to see is Hurts getting his first win in Dallas this year.

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9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

It's a weird situation with Dak in Philly

2023... Eagles win

2022... Dak out

2021...Dak beats Eagles backups last week of season as Eagles rest for playoffs 

2020... Dak out

2019... Dak chokes as Eagles win the battle for division 

2018... Dak wins

2017 ... Dak wins 6-0 vs backups like 2021

2016... Dak plays a series

In reality Dak is 1-2 in Philly... win in 2018... losses in 2019 and 2023.   But congrats on beating the backups twice on meaningless games at the end. 

weird

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Read where Bark seems really comfortable here. Trying to learn the club culture. I think he will like it much better than NY and I think he will like this Oline better also

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