June 6, 20241 yr Top paid nonQBs: Jefferson 35 Bosa 34 AJ 32. DTJones 31.7 Amon 30 Cheetah 30 Waddle 28.2 Allen 28.2 Burns 28.2 Adams 28 Watt 28 DT Wilkins 27.5 Kupp 26.7 Smitty 25 Garrett 25
June 6, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: So a guy that wants 40 how do you get to sign early? He stated he has no problem being patient waiting for the 40. But...for the point I make about the players absolutely wanting to sign early because in the end they get more cash...where they can't recover by waiting and taking the higher # Use Parsons as an example. He is making 2.89 mil this year. Sure he can wait and get paid next year.... but if he played for the Eagles....you think he passes up a $40-50 mil signing bonus now... already putting significant money in his pocket... them also starting the cycle to where he can get the deal redone with a nice big cash influx say after 3 years...like we saw AJ. You think he could ever make up that cash in the pocket by waiting a year and getting 40 instead of $35 now? Again use your simpleton method of $35 vs 40 per for 5 years...you see $25 mil more by waiting... I'm saying he gets 35-45 mil more now... and gets ahead by that much... then redo after 2026 season...so any amount of a higher signing bonus next year...plus a 2026 extra $5 mil in salary...isn't going to make up the difference or even be close....that's without even considering the significant bump again after 2026. Always better for the player to get paid early. But if they make you wait...then you make them pay up. It won't be enough...but it's something.
June 6, 20241 yr Looks to me like WR are very much holding their own as top paid position. You are going to have to adapt with the times. 2024 these are the numbers. Lamb and Chase are the next in line expected to break into this group to add to the WRs case. So might as well just go ahead and consider two more WR at the top of the list.
June 6, 20241 yr Lamb 35 mil Dak 60 mil Parsons 40 mil. That's what Jerry is looking at. But be lost the ability to jump ahead of the game. Only guy he did it correctly with was Diggs. Diggs was drafted after Lamb. Diggs and Hurts done correctly last year Lamb a year too late...and Parsons a year too late...should have been done when we did Smith and Dickerson. Because Dallas messed up years ago...they can't get all these guys dome properly...and the cycle continues.
June 6, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Looks to me like WR are very much holding their own as top paid position. You are going to have to adapt with the times. 2024 these are the numbers. Lamb and Chase are the next in line expected to break into this group to add to the WRs case. So might as well just go ahead and consider two more WR at the top of the list. Right...because the top edge guys already signed. Bosa, Watt, the guy in Cleveland. Parsons is the next guy to reset the market. To get the edge guys back up significantly over the WRs.
June 6, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Looks to me like WR are very much holding their own as top paid position. You are going to have to adapt with the times. 2024 these are the numbers. Lamb and Chase are the next in line expected to break into this group to add to the WRs case. So might as well just go ahead and consider two more WR at the top of the list. Again...you are missing the biggest factor. Why are the WRs topping the list in 2024? Because the top edge guys are already signed.... all but the future 40 mil guy down in Dallas.
June 6, 20241 yr The biggest factor in all of this is the time frame. The cap going up significantly each year.
June 6, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Top paid nonQBs: Jefferson 35 Bosa 34 AJ 32. DTJones 31.7 Amon 30 Cheetah 30 Waddle 28.2 Allen 28.2 Burns 28.2 Adams 28 Watt 28 DT Wilkins 27.5 Kupp 26.7 Smitty 25 Garrett 25 What did the list look like in March? You see the point yet? The timing. This is when the WRs were hitting the market. When did the D guys sign?
June 6, 20241 yr You keep trying to make an argument like anybody here said the cowboys are doing contracts in a fantastic way. Nobody here ever said that. In fact I don’t recall anybody …anywhere saying that. It’s well known how they are screwing this whole contract situation. At least they got guys playing in contract year situations all the time. I’m actually leaning towards thinking Parsons maybe gets his 40 mil…elsewhere. The only way I see hitting 40 to begin next offseason.
June 6, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Top paid nonQBs: Jefferson 35 Bosa 34 AJ 32. DTJones 31.7 Amon 30 Cheetah 30 Waddle 28.2 Allen 28.2 Burns 28.2 Adams 28 Watt 28 DT Wilkins 27.5 Kupp 26.7 Smitty 25 Garrett 25 And look and the last 2. Smitty and Garrett. When is Smith going to make $25 mil per? The extension was added to his 5th year....5th year is 2025...that means 25 mil isn't reality until 2026. When did Garrett start making the $25 mil? See the difference? Parsons will have 4 years completed... that $40 mil # will start ASAP.
June 6, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, joemas6 said: What did the list look like in March? You see the point yet? The timing. This is when the WRs were hitting the market. When did the D guys sign? Jones, Allen,Burns and Wilkins signed this offseason
June 6, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: You keep trying to make an argument like anybody here said the cowboys are doing contracts in a fantastic way. Nobody here ever said that. In fact I don’t recall anybody …anywhere saying that. It’s well known how they are screwing this whole contract situation. At least they got guys playing in contract year situations all the time. I’m actually leaning towards thinking Parsons maybe gets his 40 mil…elsewhere. The only way I see hitting 40 to begin next offseason. But why do you put any significance in " beginning of the offseason " vs If he gets paid next August? It's the same as far as cap hit etc. It's being paid starting in 2025 season. He will absolutely get paid in Dallas as they control his 5th year. That gives time to negotiate... just like it's Lamb's 5th year coming up But you pointed out just like Parsons did ... the cap opens up for Dallas to pay him next year. Why would they be able to keep Lamb without the cap space but lose Parsons when they have it. Jerry is paying him $40mil... book it.
June 6, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Jones, Allen,Burns and Wilkins signed this offseason Garrett, Watt, Bosa ..... are market setters....just like Parsons will be. These guys you mentioned...aren't the market setters.
June 6, 20241 yr Just now, joemas6 said: Garrett, Watt, Bosa ..... are market setters....just like Parsons will be. These guys you mentioned...aren't the market setters. Come on man...you know this.
June 6, 20241 yr But I’m not going as far to say the pass rushers won’t have a comeback. WR market has really blown up though. Whole different world than trying to compare historically. You just know Myles Garrett is frothing at this market after the Jefferson signing.
June 6, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Jones, Allen,Burns and Wilkins signed this offseason Realistically... did any of these guys have the clout to set the market? You know it's not the same as Bosa, Garrett, Watt...Parsons. But we knew JJ had the clout to reset the WR market significantly.
June 6, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: But I’m not going as far to say the pass rushers won’t have a comeback. WR market has really blown up though. Whole different world than trying to compare historically. You just know Myles Garrett is frothing at this market after the Jefferson signing. It's the timing. Really nothing more.
June 6, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: But I’m not going as far to say the pass rushers won’t have a comeback. WR market has really blown up though. Whole different world than trying to compare historically. You just know Myles Garrett is frothing at this market after the Jefferson signing. Yes....now you get it with Garrett.
June 6, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, joemas6 said: But why do you put any significance in " beginning of the offseason " vs If he gets paid next August? It's the same as far as cap hit etc. It's being paid starting in 2025 season. He will absolutely get paid in Dallas as they control his 5th year. That gives time to negotiate... just like it's Lamb's 5th year coming up But you pointed out just like Parsons did ... the cap opens up for Dallas to pay him next year. Why would they be able to keep Lamb without the cap space but lose Parsons when they have it. Jerry is paying him $40mil... book it. My statement was referring to his about starting next offseason where the market will be. I’ve been clear about how I don’t see anybody moving the market again after Jefferson. Not unless Jerruh coughs up the dough right now for Parsons…and he accepts it. But I will not "book it” that Jerruh will be paying parsons 40. He could still franchise tag him…or trade him…that’s after considering the fifth year option.
June 6, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: But I’m not going as far to say the pass rushers won’t have a comeback. WR market has really blown up though. Whole different world than trying to compare historically. You just know Myles Garrett is frothing at this market after the Jefferson signing. Garrett signed for 25 mil per...in 2020!!!! What did $25 mil value in 2020 compare to today? If he was 4 years younger now...he signs for way more than JJ.
June 6, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, joemas6 said: Realistically... did any of these guys have the clout to set the market? You know it's not the same as Bosa, Garrett, Watt...Parsons. But we knew JJ had the clout to reset the WR market significantly. I can agree with this some what. I think Jefferson had the clout to be the top paid nonQB period though…not the WR market.
June 6, 20241 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: My statement was referring to his about starting next offseason where the market will be. I’ve been clear about how I don’t see anybody moving the market again after Jefferson. Not unless Jerruh coughs up the dough right now for Parsons…and he accepts it. But I will not "book it” that Jerruh will be paying parsons 40. He could still franchise tag him…or trade him…that’s after considering the fifth year option. You take too literally about that... I'll translate...:" hey Jerry my market starts at 40 mil next year. " Do you really think he was talking about March 2025??? Lol
June 6, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: I can agree with this some what. I think Jefferson had the clout to be the top paid nonQB. If Garrett Bosa, Watt and Parsons would have all been same draft... you really think JJ would be highest paid of that group???
June 6, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: You take too literally about that... I'll translate...:" hey Jerry my market starts at 40 mil next year. " Do you really think he was talking about March 2025??? Lol I was exactly stating literally to start next offseason which players would move the market to get things to 40 between now and then. That’s what I clearly stated.
June 6, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: If Garrett Bosa, Watt and Parsons would have all been same draft... you really think JJ would be highest paid of that group??? Would you think Kirk Cousins would have made the money he has?
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