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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He was running for his life. If he could have…he would have. They got him right before he could.

They weren't at the 2,he ran backwards into the EZ. If you're being chased stay the F out of the EZ jebus

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10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

When you constantly blamed Hurts over what transpired last season completely ignoring the coaching disaster that lead to our teams slide

Hurts had his part in it.  For you ...for some reason you like to think someone either has 100% or zero blame. 

Hurts had a part of the blame... for the Superbowl loss with the brutal untouched fumble...and the bad on field play at times last year.

Nobody ever said Hurts was 100% to blame for anything. 

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4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They weren't at the 2,he ran backwards into the EZ. If you're being chased stay the F out of the EZ jebus

JV,I hope he learned from this

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They weren't at the 2,he ran backwards into the EZ. If you're being chased stay the F out of the EZ jebus

And at the end if the half vs the Giants he failed to step out of bounds...a lucky delay of game call got him off the hook.   Fumbles in the red zone...etc. 

 

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I believe he’s the best one our franchise has ever had. But always things to learn and improve on.

Yes....reading a defense and making throws.   

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He was trying to. You could pretty much tell he wanted to just throw the ball away and avoid the sack. But he realized it would have been ruled a sack anyway…since he wasn’t outside T box.

Meant Safety

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3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

And at the end if the half vs the Giants he failed to step out of bounds...a lucky delay of game call got him off the hook.   Fumbles in the red zone...etc. 

 

I hope he(Hurts) steps up. Although I'm not expecting a brutal fall off Jurgens will have to prove he can fill some big shoes and Hurts needs to be ready if he cannot. I have faith in jurgens that he will grow into those shoes over time,but I'm sure initially he and Steen will be tested first

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They weren't at the 2,he ran backwards into the EZ. If you're being chased stay the F out of the EZ jebus

So you don’t see any fault that all those guys immediately are chasing our QB that far backwards…with anybody else doing their jobs?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So you don’t see any fault that all those guys immediately are chasing our QB that far backwards…with anybody else doing their jobs?

Could we possible block anybody? Clearly would have helped Hurts on that play.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Meant Safety

Counts the same as an EZ sack,so it's interchangeable for me

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He was trying to. You could pretty much tell he wanted to just throw the ball away and avoid the sack. But he realized it would have been ruled a sack anyway…since he wasn’t outside T box.

Are you talking about the play in Tampa?   Was your TV working ?

This is where you lose us.... you just can’t bring yourself to find any fault with Hurts.   Specific plays where he makes errors....pee wee league mistakes, and you just try to look for every excuse to not blame him.  

Then these vague....  " he can always improve " but never offer anything specific you think he can improve on.

 

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

JV,I hope he learned from this

He was trying to get outside the T box so he could just throw it away…exactly like you suggested…you just left that key part of the NFL rules out.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Counts the same as an EZ sack,so it's interchangeable for me

So let’s try and block somebody in the future maybe

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I hope he(Hurts) steps up. Although I'm not expecting a brutal fall off Jurgens will have to prove he can fill some big shoes and Hurts needs to be ready if he cannot. I have faith in jurgens that he will grow into those shoes over time,but I'm sure initially he and Steen will be tested first

I'm more concerned about Steen than I am Jurgens.   Jurgens played at honorable mention pro bowl level at RG... C is his position.   Should only be better at C than RG.  Steen has never played RG for any period of time... let alone limited NFL experience. 

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5 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

It's a difficult breed to keep, like St. Bernards. I tried to get them to change over to an American Staffordshire when I was in Ohio to no avail LOL

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes....reading a defense and making throws.   

Yep just like every single NFL  QB

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So let’s try and block somebody in the future maybe

So .... when they rush 6 and the play call has 5 blocking.... would be nice if the QB knew how to audible extra protection. 

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He was trying to get outside the T box so he could just throw it away…exactly like you suggested…you just left that key part of the NFL rules out.

The mistake was running into the EZ,that was the JV part,you never EVER do that period,The NFL rules have ZIP to do with KNOWLEDGE

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4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So let’s try and block somebody in the future maybe

Let's try to plan for the unexpected,that's on the QB

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's a difficult breed to keep, like St. Bernards. I tried to get them to change over to an American Staffordshire when I was in Ohio to no avail LOL

Yes, heart problems. Great Danes too which are part Mastiff

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yep just like every single NFL  QB

Except you clearly established a work ethic and leadership.... so he already has that....specifically for him.... he needs those 2 things.   

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3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I'm more concerned about Steen than I am Jurgens.   Jurgens played at honorable mention pro bowl level at RG... C is his position.   Should only be better at C than RG.  Steen has never played RG for any period of time... let alone limited NFL experience. 

Yeah,I suspect that gap will be hit plenty and they need to prove that's not the place to go. It will be fun to watch

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Are you talking about the play in Tampa?   Was your TV working ?

This is where you lose us.... you just can’t bring yourself to find any fault with Hurts.   Specific plays where he makes errors....pee wee league mistakes, and you just try to look for every excuse to not blame him.  

Then these vague....  " he can always improve " but never offer anything specific you think he can improve on.

 

The Safety Hurts took. It’s really hard to figure out what Hurts could have done to avoid it. But clearly he shouldn’t have that many guys come straight attacking him so quickly. Hurts is at fault here also. But nowhere close to some JV peewee mistake. He was running for his life and couldn’t avoid all the rushers and get outside the T box. They caught him.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So .... when they rush 6 and the play call has 5 blocking.... would be nice if the QB knew how to audible extra protection. 

Kelce called protections. But it was a four man rush. Three of them pushed the pocket straight back and attacked Hurts. I feel that was a huge failure on the Oline to do their jobs. Not just one guy failed. Three Oline players for us did horrible jobs blocking on that play.

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