7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We really could use another outside receiver option. Right now it’s up to Ngata or Wilson to step up. Maybe they can do it. As things look right now..they have to.

Why, when AJ and Smith are not injured? How do you know they stepped up until that time comes? As I said Ainais can play out in a pinch and I suspect we hang on to Covey,so it's not like the cupboard is bare. A bit thin,but not a disaster

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

The " deep ball"  that's the WRs.   In 2023 those fluke plays where our WRs bailed him out or the defense had break downs....they weren't there. 

You aren't going to win anything with Hurts constantly throwing the ball 45 yards downfield. 

I want to see balls in the middle of the field. Teams don't even defend that because they know Hurts won't throw there. Really that is 1/3 of the field he doesn't even use. It's either deep or screens and Hurts needs to expand his horizons now,but first he needs to make more than 1 read to do that. If you recall,even the few balls to Quez were usually outside patterns started from the slot spot

7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts has lead our O to be elite for two straight seasons. More goes into it than just player talents though. You’re missing the other very key ingredients. The team never gelled last season.  Looked steps behind coming out of TC. Can’t substitute for quality coaching. Hurts was MVP leader past the halfway point in the season. That’s with overcoming the coaching deficiencies. 
 We aren’t the best most talented team. But we need Hurts to be much better than 11th best QB to really succeed.

The offense wasn't elite level last year...come on now.

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Another strength he has delivered consistently is the deep ball big play throws. That was relied on way too heavily last season. Let’s give him some middle ground options to choose also. In reading a D let’s not be so massively low utilizing motion to help out the read. We were just so massively far behind the whole rest of the league using motion. Got to make sure the playcalls get in soon enough to get to the line to make reads.

You always are caught up in the past determining the future. Not the way things always work. He proved he can win the SB. Running the ball WAS a part of that. Just got to embrace the dual threat he is. Not going to get anywhere trying to force him to try and be Tom Brady. He’s not. He’s Jalen Hurts. That’s good enough. Let him be the best version of himself.

Ham, you are forced to embrace the " dual threat"  because you don't believe he will ever be good enough without running the ball.   

To me the mobility is a tool... but I don't want my QB running the ball 17 times in a game.   Mahomes is plenty mobile... he runs like 3 times per game. 

7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How did AJ get hurt? Did we actually dox that problem? No we didn’t. Still the same HC that made the bone headed decision that got AJ and Hurts injured in that final meaningless game…that our team wasn’t ready to play in anyway. Siri still HC. Be better options next offseason for our HC job was the decision that Rosie made. I want the Texans OC. Get the Shannahan taught O mind. Then we can really be something special.

See this is your problem.   

You fall in love with players / coaches/ GMs.... then you hate players / coaches/ GMs..   for you the guys you love,  do zero wrong.  You find excuses for them all day long.

The guys you hate....  you find BS reasons to blame them for everything !

The place you are in right now.    This is what is going to happen.   The Eagles are going to have a great season...and you aren't going to enjoy it.  Because the coach who took over the dumpster fire and has the highest winning percentage in franchise history ...and the only GM to win a SB... you don't like for dumb reasons.   

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Tried to discuss the Jets game. But nobody was interested. Real late for you to try to bring it up now. Think that was a pretty key game. But can you really blame Hurts but so much for that bad interception at the end? Obviously you do. I’m just much more realistic. It was a bad play by Hurts. But very understandable under the circumstances. 

Yes...the defense was dominating... take a sack... and punt....game over.

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t think we should work so hard to make Hurts somebody he isn’t. He deferred to the HoF vets on the team to be more vocal leaders. He isn’t the talker like BG is. He’s more a lead by example personality. Let him be him.

And he needs to adjust to the locker room.  That's what leadership is. Knowing when to do leadership things.  He is no longer the " little brother"   

That's the issue we have had with our QBs.... Cunningham, McNabb,  Wentz.... those guys were young mature guys.... as they got older none of them developed into the mature older guys.   

The players voted on things within their organization...across the NFL. 

The players voted....Siri got an A.   

If the QB has a problem with that... the organization seems to have let him know.... " tough spit"  he is our guy.  Grow up now.

To me this is huge.   Now he can grow.  Getting your ass kissed is not a good thing in mental development.   That part seems over now.  

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Admitting problems would begin with the FO and Rosie. Would look at the coaching…which they did improve on. You call Hurts over the middle his weakness. But it was more scheme and lack of him having a Slot option. Still don’t have that third capable receiver. But they can move Smitty and AJ inside some. If AJ plays the Slot do you think Hurts will throw over the middle more? If AJ runs crossing patterns…do you think Hurts will  throw over the middle more? What factor was having Quez then OZ as the middle receiver?

Let's see what happens.   

But curious....you say Hurts has things to work on?   Yet you never mention anything... it always turns into something somebe else can do.   

Thankfully it isn't the approach of the organization. 

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They tell you your opinions

I just found the shoe last night...listened for the first few minutes in the car on way to kids swim meet. 

They said they will be on 6 to 7 weekdays. 

For those out of the area....who don't like TMZ...or any other left field theories...  this is something local specifically on the Eagles.   Get a feel for what's going on.  

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We really could use another outside receiver option. Right now it’s up to Ngata or Wilson to step up. Maybe they can do it. As things look right now..they have to.

Which of the 31 other teams...have the outside WR depth.

45 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why, when AJ and Smith are not injured? How do you know they stepped up until that time comes? As I said Ainais can play out in a pinch and I suspect we hang on to Covey,so it's not like the cupboard is bare. A bit thin,but not a disaster

Which team has the WR depth?

43 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I want to see balls in the middle of the field. Teams don't even defend that because they know Hurts won't throw there. Really that is 1/3 of the field he doesn't even use. It's either deep or screens and Hurts needs to expand his horizons now,but first he needs to make more than 1 read to do that. If you recall,even the few balls to Quez were usually outside patterns started from the slot spot

It seems the Eagles have been working on this.   Along with QB under center, motion, rolling left..etc.

I know we are transitioning this kid from WR to TE,but I would be really tempted to use him as the slot near the GL. I know he is a rook,but he has 4.6 speed(fast for a TE).

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Which team has the WR depth?

We have depth,it's just untested. Paris has played,but the numbers aren't good,perhaps his career will be rejuvenated here, Ainias rookie-jury out although he was "my guy" in the draft. Johnny from FSU,also a rook,jury out. Covey,not really used as a receiver. Don't know much about the other roster WR camp bodies-jury out. I see nothing wrong with adding a BU outside guy like Michael Thomas. If  AJ misses time,Smith can slide into the slot(ala JJ). If Smith misses time,you'd still have AJ/Thomas out.Thomas has lost a step,but still a viable outside BU. I really don't care what the other 31 teams have or don't have. If we can add a little depth,then we should. if we're going to try another run(which I expect we will) then you are going to need outside guys down the stretch. Once again we have some untested slot guys, Ainias COULD play outside but he is untested there also. Adding a vet like Thomas or similar would make sense. We have enough loot left to do it. Let the other 31 teams do whatever they want,I don;t care what they do or don't do. Even if none miss time,there is an option to use all 3 with Smith in the slot. You'd have 3 experienced weapons that way. Rotate Paris,ainias or whomever. The more looks you give the tougher the defenses have it

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

It seems the Eagles have been working on this.   Along with QB under center, motion, rolling left..etc.

I hope so,we need to be better than bland. I'm excited to watch this team fly

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We have depth,it's just untested. Paris has played,but the numbers aren't good,perhaps his career will be rejuvenated here, Ainias rookie-jury out although he was "my guy" in the draft. Johnny from FSU,also a rook,jury out. Covey,not really used as a receiver. Don't know much about the other roster WR camp bodies-jury out. I see nothing wrong with adding a BU outside guy like Michael Thomas. If  AJ misses time,Smith can slide into the slot(ala JJ). If Smith misses time,you'd still have AJ/Thomas out.Thomas has lost a step,but still a viable outside BU. I really don't care what the other 31 teams have or don't have. If we can add a little depth,then we should. if we're going to try another run(which I expect we will) then you are going to need outside guys down the stretch. Once again we have some untested slot guys, Ainias COULD play outside but he is untested there also. Adding a vet like Thomas or similar would make sense. We have enough loot left to do it. Let the other 31 teams do whatever they want,I don;t care what they do or don't do. Even if none miss time,there is an option to use all 3 with Smith in the slot. You'd have 3 experienced weapons that way. Rotate Paris,ainias or whomever. The more looks you give the tougher the defenses have it

How many roster spots do you keep adding?   We add Michael Thomas, Justin Simmons, another pass rusher, another LB, another OL.... we going to expand the roster ??? 

Just now, joemas6 said:

How many roster spots do you keep adding?   We add Michael Thomas, Justin Simmons, another pass rusher, another LB, another OL.... we going to expand the roster ??? 

That said, I expect some moves to be made.... later.   Not so much before camp starts and they get a look at what's currently on the roster. 

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

How many roster spots do you keep adding?   We add Michael Thomas, Justin Simmons, another pass rusher, another LB, another OL.... we going to expand the roster ??? 

Thomas isn't better than WR5 we have now? Who said we need to ADD,just REPLACE. We do this every year LOL

BTW I forgot about Ross IF he can play at all

28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Thomas isn't better than WR5 we have now? Who said we need to ADD,just REPLACE. We do this every year LOL

Idk... they have to see WR 5 first.  Along with the rest of the roster.  That's my point. 

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Idk... they have to see WR 5 first.  Along with the rest of the roster.  That's my point. 

Whoever the best 53 are

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Whoever the best 53 are

Correct... right now they have a lot of players to evaluate.  History has shown there will be a couple of additions after the preseason is finished.   I don't think they rush into anything yet.

22 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why, when AJ and Smith are not injured? How do you know they stepped up until that time comes? As I said Ainais can play out in a pinch and I suspect we hang on to Covey,so it's not like the cupboard is bare. A bit thin,but not a disaster

AJ and Smitty can move inside and play well out of the slot. So a third guy that can play outside solves all kinds of potential issues…even with both top guys healthy….but becomes a necessity if either gets injured.

22 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The offense wasn't elite level last year...come on now.

It was second best in the NFL past midseason. Finished seventh even after everybody knew exactly what plays we were running. Frankly we shouldn’t even count that meaningless week 18 giants game as part of the equation. Nobody was ready to play a real game that week for us.